If Tom does not beat Ganes within 2 minutes then Jones will use this against him

[Tweak896]

Aspinall isn't a wrestler like Jones is. Gane is a kickboxer and Aspinall is mostly a striker. I don't blame Izzy for struggling with Pereira, where Khamzat might of had an easier time.

 

[Portland8242]

Then I guess Jan, Jiri, Ulberg, Spann > Jones since they all brutally KO'd Reyes and Jones barely scraped by him in a decision everyone thought he lost!

 

[markg171]

MMA is about stylistic matchups, different fighter, different outcome

Two fights are never the same and styles do make fights.

Except you guys have all been saying for years that Tom is a horrific style match up for Gane. You don't get to suddenly walk this back.

Especially when the narrative for Jon/Gane at the time was that Jon's TDs hadn't been the same for years even before his 3 year layoff, and that was against LHWs not HWs Nobody had any idea whether Jon could get the TDs, let alone do so and sub Gane in 2 minutes of all things.

Jon opened as a +150 underdog and finished at -150 favourite. Tom opened as a -420 favourite and is still a -400 favourite. Tom is the one who's supposed to destroy Gane, not Jon.

 

[Aurelian]

And if Tom wins a striking match, he can say that he outstruck the guy that Jon had to immediately shoot against.

This is wrong on two counts

1. Jon didn't shoot immediately. Gane made a mistake after a minute had passed and Jon took advantage (successfully)

2. Jon was winning the striking too

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Tom seems to have became real cocky lately. And who doesn't want to pull for the underdog?

Didnt Tom just recently say DC would have been a nightmare match up for him? either way I dont really care about someone being cocky as long as they back it up, which he has so far as emphatically as humanly possible.

Gane winning has zero benefit to the division. The guy got steamrolled with ease by an aging LHW who hadnt fought in 3 years and who is now retired. Pretty much the only thing HW has going for it right now, credibility wise, is one guy who so far has looked like he could hang in better eras and who spooked Jon. Take that away and its completely dead.

 

[Aurelian]

Didnt Tom just recently say DC would have been a nightmare match up for him? either way I dont really care about someone being cocky as long as they back it up, which he has so far as emphatically as humanly possible.

Gane winning has zero benefit to the division. The guy got steamrolled with ease by an aging LHW who hadnt fought in 3 years and who is now retired. Pretty much the only thing HW has going for it right now, credibility wise, is one guy who so far has looked like he could hang in better eras and who spooked Jon. Take that away and its completely dead.

Honestly I think Jailton is going to sub Volkov and then beat Tom in a few months. He'll by champion mid 2026.

 

[Portland8242]

Except you guys have all been saying for years that Tom is a horrific style match up for Gane. You don't get to suddenly walk this back.

Especially when the narrative for Jon/Gane at the time was that Jon's TDs hadn't been the same for years even before his 3 year layoff, and that was against LHWs not HWs Nobody had any idea whether Jon could get the TDs, let alone do so and sub Gane in 2 minutes of all things.

Jon opened as a +150 underdog and finished at -150 favourite. Tom opened as a -420 favourite and is still a -400 favourite. Tom is the one who's supposed to destroy Gane, not Jon.

What about the time Jones was actually supposed to fight Tom for 30 million and ducked?

 

[CombatCyborg]

Jones will but it doesn't matter. He had a chance to fight Tom and he declined.

 

[Portland8242]

But Jones ain’t saying Tom isn’t on his level

Not exactly

In his own weirdly honest way Jones is saying Tom’s too dangerous for a no-name that doesn’t help his legacy enough to risk fighting him

Tom having a rough time vs Gane works against Jones’ narrative not for it

It just continues to be so bizarre that this "no-name" was actually prompting the UFC to offer Jones 30 million to fight him!

My god that legacy though man, the freakin' legacy man!!!

 

[markg171]

What about the time Jones was actually supposed to fight Tom for 30 million and ducked?

I don't know what that has anything at all to do with the fact that Tom IS supposed to be a bad style matchup for Gane and IS supposed to smash him more than Jon did per the odds.

So it's rather interesting how many of you are trying to walk this back all of the sudden.

 

[Portland8242]

I don't know what that has anything at all to do with the fact that Tom IS supposed to be a bad style matchup for Gane and IS supposed to smash him more than Jon did per the odds.

So it's rather interesting how many of you are trying to walk this back all of the sudden.

And I'm pretty sure that Jones was "supposed to be" a a worse style matchup for Reyes than Jan Blachowicz but one of them utterly smashed him and brutally KO'd him and one of them went to a life and death decision with him where everyone thought he lost.

Your logic is pretty stupid bro

 

[Aurelian]

Beating Jon would have been great since it would have been Jon's first real loss on his record.

But realistically, Jon's a 38 year old coming off an injury that had him sidelined for a year with a shit load of fight mileage. People would be saying Jon is washed.

Tom needs to beat fighters in their primes to really build his legacy.

 

[usernamee]

Aspinall isn't a wrestler like Jones is. Gane is a kickboxer and Aspinall is mostly a striker. I don't blame Izzy for struggling with Pereira, where Khamzat might of had an easier time.

Lets not think about this rationally

 

[jeff7b9]

no matter what happens
jones has still the most title wins in the history

no matter what happens jones name will be remembered 100 years from now

aspinal would be lucky if hes relevant 5 years from now

you know whats funny we will all be gone here and jones name will still be relevant

who is tom aspeenal?your next savior

You are running to the defense of Jon Jones and trying to project some shit at ME?

Fucking weirdo.

Jon had a great career.
He wanted absolutely NOTHING to do with Tom.
These are established facts at this point

 

[Tito Tapped]

Tom being "too good" for Jones is a fallacy the haters throw around everytime.

It was always about legacy. Tom doesn't bring much to the table in that regard as a 32 year old prospect.

The only way to build that is to win fights. Now maybe the UFC really did fuck him on that and not offer him anything else or maybe that was his choice. Regardless of how he wins, if he does, it's only going to raise his stock.

Unfortunately for Tom fans, it's too little too late. Alex's aura is too massive now making him the only logical choice if Jones wants to comeback.

 

[Portland8242]

Tom being "too good" for Jones is a fallacy the haters throw around everytime.

It was always about legacy. Tom doesn't bring much to the table in that regard as a 32 year old prospect.

The only way to build that is to win fights. Now maybe the UFC really did fuck him on that and not offer him anything else or maybe that was his choice. Regardless of how he wins, if he does, it's only going to raise his stock.

Unfortunately for Tom fans, it's too little too late. Alex's aura is too massive now making him the only logical choice if Jones wants to comeback.

I love this "legacy" nonsense that Jones fanboys keep clinging to.

Is 30 million just not enough to trump dat "legacy" benefit?

 

[markg171]

And I'm pretty sure that Jones was "supposed to be" a a worse style matchup for Reyes than Jan Blachowicz but one of them utterly smashed him and brutally KO'd him and one of them went to a life and death decision with him where everyone thought he lost.

Your logic is pretty stupid bro

My logic is stupid, but you're the one saying Jon was supposed to be a bad matchup for Reyes because Reyes can be KO'd (not known at the time) but Jon Jones has historically never had KO power to take advantage of that even if it had been known.

WhY dIdN't JoN jUsT kO rEyEs?

Your username is accurate. You're definitely from Portland.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

It was always about legacy. Tom doesn't bring much to the table in that regard as a 32 year old prospect.

He definitely would have brought more to the table than a 42 year old who hadnt won a fight in over four years.

 

[Portland8242]

My logic is stupid, but you're the one saying Jon was supposed to be a bad matchup for Reyes because Reyes can be KO'd (not known at the time) but Jon Jones has historically never had KO power to take advantage of that even if it had been known.

WhY dIdN't JoN jUsT kO rEyEs?

Your username is accurate. You're definitely from Portland.

No dumbass it's cause you're now making an argument about betting odds.

Jones was anywhere from -350 to -450 to beat Reyes. Blachowicz was coming in as a 2-1 underdog against Reyes.

It's using your own moronic logic against you, but you were too dumb to pick it up.

 

[SuperNerd]

Jj gonna send a fire tweet if Tom loses