Crime Ice shoots a defenseless Pastor in the face with a Smoke Round, from a roof top. Pastor sues Trump administration.

Nah, I’m not assuming it has “zero value”. Of course if scotus says Trump can’t invoke the insurrection act whenever he wants—and I have no faith at all that they would, they’d most likely say it is his call, imo—that opens up a lot of ways to shut him down. Hadn’t thought of governors intervening, that’s an excellent point.

But, he can still push forward and test the boundaries with zero personal consequences. You have way more faith in our congress than I do if you think they’ll do anything about it. Impeachment is out of the question. Making a law requiring congressional approval is also highly unlikely, unless the dems get control.
You’re right about the military and I mentioned that already. So, in this hypothetical scenario, it all comes down to loyalists for Trump versus the those loyal to the constitution. In any case, a shit sammich when he says “fuck you, Roberts”. Which is why I think this pussy scotus will just say the potus can do whatever he wants, which they already have done time and again.
Oh, I have no faith in this US Congress. And you're right, Trump can do whatver he wants with zero personal consequences.

But the Supreme Court overruling him still has value. It makes it legal for US State Governors to order National Guard troops to stand down, when Trump issues the National Guard unlawful orders.
 
Fuck you, dumbass. If you actually read that post with any reading comprehension skills, you would see the first part was a joke and the second part was condemning ice for being super fascist. I stated “ice gives fascists a bad name.” . In short, eat a bag of dicks
If you're actually taking a stand against ICE, then fair enough. Welcome to the rebellion. However, your history of cop apologia (whether of local pigs or feds) makes me skeptical. I don't post as much as most on here, but I have a decent memory, and I remember you immediately taking the side of the ICE thugs who murdered a woman in Chicago recently. If you've had a change of heart, then fair enough. I can accept that. But it's with reservations that will immediately go into effect the next time you engage in apologia for these fascist swine.
 
It's almost like US citizens have a right to peacefully protest. That would be crazy if they actually had that right.

They haven't been peacefully protesting at all. They've been physically interfering for literally months. Obstructing ICE agents physically as well as attacking journalists.

He took like one step forward off the sidewalk. Just tell the guy to move back. Nobody was blocking or obstructing anything in that video clip. Those people were assembled peacefully and petitioning for redress of grievances, both clearly protected under the 1st Amendment.

They were being warned literally all day and for hours to stay off federal property and to stay back. And they're not listening. They're also physically trying to stop ICE agents.

It's all on video dude. There are hours long streams of the Portland facility on Youtube. They've been spitting on them, vandalizing cars, destroying glass building fronts, etc.
 
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This is a bunch of more garbage,law enforcement cannot shoot anything at anyone in a non life and death situation. They can only give him a trespassing warning or arrest him if he actually broke any law which is doubtful , the reality is the shooter should do prison time for attempted permanent damages or even death to the individual.

You continue to be a fucking idiot. Literally one of the dumbest motherfuckers on this board.

Law enforcement can shoot non-lethal rounds in a civil disturbance.

Do you need me to distinguish between lethal and non-lethal rounds?
 
You continue to be a fucking idiot. Literally one of the dumbest motherfuckers on this board.

Law enforcement can shoot non-lethal rounds in a civil disturbance.

Do you need me to distinguish between lethal and non-lethal rounds?
Lethal rounds wouldn’t be the subject the fact is he was unlawfully shot where potential risk was involved In something actual law enforcement can’t even do bc they would be fired on the spot bc they are actual officials who are held accountable unlike fake organizations like ice who operate under a label Trump created , and like stun guns any weapon that has potential risk of injury or death which occurs need to be handled correctly thsts why officers cannot tase anyone that are already hand cuffed unless they are attempting to kick or bite etc etc ..


No such events took place that this liar According to a statement by Department of Homeland Security official Tricia McLaughlin, said he was blocking a vehicle and making obscene gestures towards her only a complete dummy like yourself would use thst as an excuse bc you yourself have a low IQ you show everyone on here all the time . Lol

Firing a round of anything from a tall building looking down where no one is attempting to invade the premises is not something any law enforcement agency is allowed to do , police buildings aren’t even private they are publicly accessible but ICE is not real law enforcement they operate under a regime separate from any real U.S government which is why they hide there identity, kidnapping and violence is rewarded you dumb mofo . Lol

As to your question to me ?

( Being shot in the head with a pepper ball is extremely dangerous and can be lethal. Despite being marketed as "less-lethal," these projectiles can cause severe and permanent injury when they strike a vulnerable area like the head, face, or eyes. )

Damn it’s like guys like you love being wrong about just about everything, every day . It’s like outside any conversation about training your completely stupid .

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If you're actually taking a stand against ICE, then fair enough. Welcome to the rebellion. However, your history of cop apologia (whether of local pigs or feds) makes me skeptical. I don't post as much as most on here, but I have a decent memory, and I remember you immediately taking the side of the ICE thugs who murdered a woman in Chicago recently. If you've had a change of heart, then fair enough. I can accept that. But it's with reservations that will immediately go into effect the next time you engage in apologia for these fascist swine.

The woman in Chicago was ramming an ice vehicle with agents inside and she was armed with a firearm when she cwas shot. And no, she’s not dead-she survived and if she hadn’t, it wouldn’t have been murder based on her aggression attacking agents and being armed with a handgun-which is illegal in Chicago.

As for me, I have always been on the side of the constitution and hate dirty or abusive cops/agents. I hate trump and his admin, tactics, cabinet, political policies, etc.
 
Lethal rounds wouldn’t be the subject the fact is he was unlawfully shot where potential risk was involved In something actual law enforcement can’t even do bc they would be fired on the spot bc they are actual officials who are held accountable unlike fake organizations like ice who operate under a label Trump created , and like stun guns any weapon that has potential risk of injury or death which occurs need to be handled correctly thsts why officers cannot tase anyone that are already hand cuffed unless they are attempting to kick or bite etc etc ..


No such events took place that this liar According to a statement by Department of Homeland Security official Tricia McLaughlin, said he was blocking a vehicle and making obscene gestures towards her only a complete dummy like yourself would use thst as an excuse bc you yourself have a low IQ you show everyone on here all the time . Lol

Firing a round of anything from a tall building looking down where no one is attempting to invade the premises is not something any law enforcement agency is allowed to do , police buildings aren’t even private they are publicly accessible but ICE is not real law enforcement they operate under a regime separate from any real U.S government which is why they hide there identity, kidnapping and violence is rewarded you dumb mofo . Lol

As to your question to me ?

So all this has nothing to do with your claim that police that "law enforcement cannot shoot anything at anyone in a non life and death situation"


( Being shot in the head with a pepper ball is extremely dangerous and can be lethal. Despite being marketed as "less-lethal," these projectiles can cause severe and permanent injury when they strike a vulnerable area like the head, face, or eyes. )

And yet they can use them. Same with a taser.

It’s like outside any conversation about training your completely stupid .
*You're*
 
"He's a professional communist Antifa agitator who professionally gets pepper-sprayed in the face while wearing clerical shirts for photo ops."

AC/DC Song's dedicated to Pepper Balling Paid POS trespassing Anti-ICE protester.



 
Leftists are doing everything they can to defeat law and order. Creating chaotic situations where accidents happen is part of the strategy. They want martyrdom videos that they can use to gaslight and bully regular people into going along with their destruction of America.
 
"He's a professional communist Antifa agitator who professionally gets pepper-sprayed in the face while wearing clerical shirts for photo ops."

AC/DC Song's dedicated to Pepper Balling Paid POS trespassing Anti-ICE protester.





Haha, I posted before I saw your post, and it's exactly what I thought. They have a track record of this kind of thing. Like up in Portland they had the antifa moms, or whatever they were called. A gaggle of trans women and fat people in drag who were being being used as human shields for antifas violent provocations. The goal was to get video of police or federal employees or right wing activists pushing back on them and then spin that into "proof" of violence against heroic protestors.

These leftists are truly evil people and they are always scheming and working for ways to terrorize and gaslight everyone so they can get their way.
 
Leftists are doing everything they can to defeat law and order. Creating chaotic situations where accidents happen is part of the strategy. They want martyrdom videos that they can use to gaslight and bully regular people into going along with their destruction of America.
You think that fed accidentally shot that dude in the face after hitting him in the hand/body first?
 
Haha, I posted before I saw your post, and it's exactly what I thought. They have a track record of this kind of thing. Like up in Portland they had the antifa moms, or whatever they were called. A gaggle of trans women and fat people in drag who were being being used as human shields for antifas violent provocations. The goal was to get video of police or federal employees or right wing activists pushing back on them and then spin that into "proof" of violence against heroic protestors.

These leftists are truly evil people and they are always scheming and working for ways to terrorize and gaslight everyone so they can get their way.
I’ll ask @nonoob the same question: paid by who? And how do you know? And how can you tell he’s a communist? Or antifa?

Lot of statements but a little short on evidence
 
Typical reaction by the right. Attack the pastor's character while handwaving the violent and unlawful action against him.
 
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