I'm pro-ICE as well, but what we are seeing now isn't the ICE we know. This is a lawless agency. They get what they get. They can't act lawless and then turn around and get indignant when the public acts lawless in return.
Illegal is illegal. It's not a moral issue. You're also ignoring all the illegal drug dealers, rapists, gang members, and murderers they've caught. Many have already been deported multiple times and made their way back into the country. We have to have control over knowing who comes and goes from the country. It's an issue of sovereignty.
LOL, Obama's 3,000,000+ deportations say otherwise.
When lawless actions react in other lawless actions I'm not going to cry over it.
ICE isn't doing anything against the law, brainwave. This is how they've always conducted their business. The only difference now, is that you have partisan brain rot from Liberal clickbait.
Go lick a moose's butthole, Canadian.
Yeah, you got nothing. Stay outraged, though.
Dude, ICE was never snatching people off the street with masks on and no identifying markings EVER. It's never happened and it's fucking bullshit and wrong. And I don't give two shits what you think about it. You aren't American. Piss off.
Oh' really? They never ran covert operations to detect and detain illegal immigrants? Really?
Show me where unidentified ICE agents where snatching people up during Obama's tenure.
I'd love to, but smartphones weren't exactly the norm back then, and this wasn't an issue at all, because the media was too busy sucking his dick to give a shit. Nor did they actually give a shit about illegal immigrants being captured by his administration, because it was not controversial to seize and deport illegal immigrants.
So you don't have any record of unidentified ICE agents taking people into custody. Got it. Now piss off.
You changed the subject of our discussion. We were not debating legality, morality, or even the efficacy of deporting people not here legally. We were debating the necessity and merits of the masks and the Gestapo like procedures and behavior of ICE. You argued that the masks and behavior were needed because they were fighting cartels which is manure. Only a tiny fraction of the people ICE capture are guilty of anything aside from being here illegally.
LOL - YOU are the dumb ass. Obama was able to deport so many more with so many because he was smart. He expanded the SCP program so state local and federal law enforcement agencies could more easily communicate with DHS and ICE. When he was president ICE were largely deporting people who had already been arrested for something else. It’s a much more effective and cheaper method.
Never ran covert operations to snatch up illegals? All 3,000,000+ he deported were already in prison for crimes, were they?
So why is it you think they're wearing masks then? To look spooky?
A lot of those folks Obama deported were also caught at the border and were not in the country long, in fact the law he used only allowed expedited deportations if the illegal had been here less than two years and most were here for far less, closer to two weeks.
To avoid accountability and instill fear in immigrants.
Instilling fear is a silly opinion. What accountability would you like to see the individual agents face?
Depends on their actions but if they're acting recklessly they should be shamed, reprimanded, or even fired if the offense is egregious enough.
