Economy Trump weighs giving Americans $2,000 from tariff revenues in bid for support

I feel like your experience of San Jose isn't super representative. It's not paradise all the time but it's significantly safer than most major metro areas.
I was there 6 years, how super representative do you expect?
 
Such as?

One can understand the cost of the Bay area and also realize describing someone making 115k as low income is insane.

That's the government definition. It's like you're going out of your way to be obtuse on this issue. No one is saying you're turning tricks at truck stops or panhandling to get by. For all your bullshit about traveling to the area and your friends and family you don't seem to know jack shit about the cost of living in the area.

It costs 2000$ to rent a room in some areas. What finger listed for 2600$ can easily be 4-5000$. It's a bit cheaper to live in Eastbay or in a place like Los Banos/Sac and commute 50-120 miles one way. I literally have a coworker who spends 4-5 hours roundtrip driving daily. His mortgage is close to what fingers wrote for her rent. Food is insanely expensive. Sure there's a couple places even more expensive for certain things like Hawaii but it's much more than elsewhere.


I really don't know why you are arguing here. Where do you live?

He loves pretending he's the smartest guy in the room in every thread I see him and acts like he doesn't understand basic concepts. He argues for the sake of arguing.

CA specifically and many counties have designations for low income and very low income yet he comes on here and tells me how it really is...despite not living here...

There are literal articles saying 110-112k qualifies as low income yet he knows better...
 
That's the government definition. It's like you're going out of your way to be obtuse on this issue. No one is saying you're turning tricks at truck stops or panhandling to get by. For all your bullshit about traveling to the area and your friends and family you don't seem to know jack shit about the cost of living in the area.

It costs 2000$ to rent a room in some areas. What finger listed for 2600$ can easily be 4-5000$. It's a bit cheaper to live in Eastbay or in a place like Los Banos/Sac and commute 50-120 miles one way. I literally have a coworker who spends 4-5 hours roundtrip driving daily. His mortgage is close to what fingers wrote for her rent. Food is insanely expensive. Sure there's a couple places even more expensive for certain things like Hawaii but it's much more than elsewhere.




He loves pretending he's the smartest guy in the room in every thread I see him and acts like he doesn't understand basic concepts. He argues for the sake of arguing.

CA specifically and many counties have designations for low income and very low income yet he comes on here and tells me how it really is...despite not living here...

There are literal articles saying 110-112k qualifies as low income yet he knows better...
In general he is right. Of course in California or New York you wouldn't survive with that salary. In most states you would.
 
So explain the difference between stimulus vs dividing check. He hasn't yet. Please show me the difference big guy
A dividend is something that a corporation pays to stock holders as part of profits. Usually extraordinary profits.
Trump wants to pay out money as part of tariffs paid by the very same people who he now wants to give a check. At best it is a reimbursement check. Trumps tariffs are basically money from the American consumer and now he wants to give some of that money back because his policy is retarded and slowing down the economy. So the check would be a way to stimulate the economy with more consumer spending. Hence a stimulus check.
If i take 20 dollars from you and you then have no money to spend, thats bad for the economy.
If i give you back 10 dollars in the hope that you spend it, that is not a dividend from profits. Its a hopefull stimulation for monetary spending.
You are still down 10 bucks
There is no way you can call it a dividend unless you are a complete moron who believes Trump when he claims tariffs are profits paid by other countries and not a tax on American consumers
 
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A dividend is something that a corporation pays to stock holders as part of profits. Usually extraordinary profits.
Trump wants to pay out money as part of tariffs paid by the very same people who he now wants to give a check. At best it is a reimbursement check. Trumps tariffs are basically money from the American consumer and now he wants to give some of that money back because his policy is retarded and slowing down the economy. So the check would be a way to stimulate the economy with more consumer spending. Hence a stimulus check.
If i take 20 dollars from you and you then have no money to spend, thats bad for the economy.
If i give you back 10 dollars in the hope that you spend it, that is not a dividend from profits. Its a hopefull stimulation for monetary spending.
You are still down 10 bucks
There is no way you can call it a dividend unless you are a complete moron who believes Trump when he claims tariffs are profits paid by other countries and not a tax on American consumers
So what's it called? Like to see you cry over it. It's laughable now. So you are spending over 2k because of tariffs? I know. You will pretend you are
 
Try reading the post again. You claim to be 43 but post like a 15 year old with severe mental disabilities.
You seem retarded. Would i respond if I didn't read the stupid shit you shared
 
That's the government definition. It's like you're going out of your way to be obtuse on this issue. No one is saying you're turning tricks at truck stops or panhandling to get by. For all your bullshit about traveling to the area and your friends and family you don't seem to know jack shit about the cost of living in the area.
It's the definition specifically for housing, which causes it to skew in affluent areas like Santa Clara. The income limit for CalFresh is almost a quarter of that, which is much more representative of actual low income or poverty. Why would we use the former over the latter when trying to understand who is low income and who isn'?

It costs 2000$ to rent a room in some areas. What finger listed for 2600$ can easily be 4-5000$. It's a bit cheaper to live in Eastbay or in a place like Los Banos/Sac and commute 50-120 miles one way. I literally have a coworker who spends 4-5 hours roundtrip driving daily. His mortgage is close to what fingers wrote for her rent. Food is insanely expensive.
You can get a 1 bed/1 ba in most of the area for about 2 grand if you have a roommate. Like I mentioned earlier, we'll assume housing costs 30 grand a year. That still leaves you another 80 grand or so according to your definition. What could someone possible spend 80 grand on after housing, that prevents them from getting by or even saving up some?

And yes, commuting sucks but it's common in nearly every major metro area. The Bay Area's commutes are in line with other expensive cities and frankly better than someone living in the IE and commuting into LA or OC to work every day.

Note that having a house already moves most people out of actual low income.
Sure there's a couple places even more expensive for certain things like Hawaii but it's much more than elsewhere.

He loves pretending he's the smartest guy in the room in every thread I see him and acts like he doesn't understand basic concepts. He argues for the sake of arguing.

CA specifically and many counties have designations for low income and very low income yet he comes on here and tells me how it really is...despite not living here...

There are literal articles saying 110-112k qualifies as low income yet he knows better...
You don't need to be smart to realize how silly your argument is. Hawaii has a high cost of living but median income is substantially less than Santa Clara. Does that mean Hawaii is entirely in poverty then?
 
Fairfax and I lived in Willow Glen in San Jose.
They have fairly similar crime rates at this point, and both are well under average for metro areas. It doesn't mean people don't feel unsafe, but objectively they're safe cities by and large.
 
They have fairly similar crime rates at this point, and both are well under average for metro areas. It doesn't mean people don't feel unsafe, but objectively they're safe cities by and large.
I don't know the numbers now but when I first moved to San Jose a few years ago it was the 10th most populated city in the US. I understand I lived in the nicer area but still heard gun fire and routinely police choppers. I was back in the UK and husband had snipers outside our patio doors because there was a meth lab in the apartment opposite being busted haha.
 
I don't know the numbers now but when I first moved to San Jose a few years ago it was the 10th most populated city in the US. I understand I lived in the nicer area but still heard gun fire and routinely police choppers. I was back in the UK and husband had snipers outside our patio doors because there was a meth lab in the apartment opposite being busted haha.
I'm too lazy to look a historical numbers but again San Jose is one of the safest major metro in the country.
 
Your post history would indicate a yes to that. I would actually be surprised if you can take a piss without getting your dick stuck in the toilet seat.
Oh really? I don't agree with your posts. Lol 😂
 
It's the definition specifically for housing, which causes it to skew in affluent areas like Santa Clara. The income limit for CalFresh is almost a quarter of that, which is much more representative of actual low income or poverty. Why would we use the former over the latter when trying to understand who is low income and who isn'?

Yes there are various definitions. Low income vs very low income. It's like you're incapable of grasping multiple concepts all at once or realizing certain terms or words can have broad definitions.

You can get a 1 bed/1 ba in most of the area for about 2 grand if you have a roommate. Like I mentioned earlier, we'll assume housing costs 30 grand a year. That still leaves you another 80 grand or so according to your definition. What could someone possible spend 80 grand on after housing, that prevents them from getting by or even saving up some?

For a guy who never lived in the area you sure have a lot of opinions and feign knowledge.

What if people don't want to live with roommates and want a normal life?

Why not sleep in a car or outside and save even more money?

And yes, commuting sucks but it's common in nearly every major metro area. The Bay Area's commutes are in line with other expensive cities and frankly better than someone living in the IE and commuting into LA or OC to work every day.

Complete bs.

Note that having a house already moves most people out of actual low income.

Not it doesn't. Some areas in the US were literally giving houses away or selling them for a dollar.

You don't need to be smart to realize how silly your argument is. Hawaii has a high cost of living but median income is substantially less than Santa Clara. Does that mean Hawaii is entirely in poverty then?

No it just seems like you're incapable of understanding umbrella terms and comparing cost of living between various areas. If getting by in two places with the same/similar lifestyle at e.g. 50k and 100k then you can say both fall under the same broad category.
 
For a guy who never lived in the area you sure have a lot of opinions and feign knowledge.

What if people don't want to live with roommates and want a normal life?

Why not sleep in a car or outside and save even more money?
What fact did I mention that was incorrect?

And if someone wants to live alone, they should earn more money. Living alone is privilege and choice, not something the government should guarantee.

Why don't you want to answer: What does the rest of someone's spending look like that earning over a 100 grand prevents them from saving money and getting by?
Complete bs.
The average commute in the Bay Area is 30 mins, with the majority driving less. The area also has better public transit than a lot of American metros. In Santa Clara, the majority drive 30 mins or less. This is better than the IE by a substantial margin, for example.

Data>vibes from someone with no media literacy or critical thinking ability.
Not it doesn't. Some areas in the US were literally giving houses away or selling them for a dollar.
What are these places? IF you're buying for a dollar, you're more or less buying a run down lot that needs a complete overhaul.
No it just seems like you're incapable of understanding umbrella terms and comparing cost of living between various areas. If getting by in two places with the same/similar lifestyle at e.g. 50k and 100k then you can say both fall under the same broad category.
Except people have a choice as to where to live.

Let's make this simple, to show how silly your idea is: How many people in the country fall under your definition of low income?

The new tariffs will only raise about $200-$250 billion this year, which means if we used every single dollar you can only cover 100 million Americans or so at $2,000 a check.
 
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