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[fingercuffs]

Trump’s trade battle with China puts US soybean farmers in peril​

BY DIDI TANG AND JOSH FUNK
Updated 2:18 AM BRT, September 27, 2025

MAGNOLIA, Ky. (AP) — The leafy soybean plants reach Caleb Ragland’s thighs and are ripe for harvest, but the Kentucky farmer is deeply worried. He doesn’t know where he and others like him will sell their crop because China has stopped buying.

Beijing, which traditionally has snapped up at least a quarter of all soybeans grown in the U.S., is in effect boycotting them in retaliation for the high tariffs President Donald Trump has imposed on Chinese goods and to strengthen its hand in negotiations over a new overall trade deal.

It has left American soybean farmers fretting over not only this year’s crop but the long-term viability of their businesses, built in part on China’s once-insatiable appetite for U.S. beans.

“This is a five-alarm fire for our industry,” said Ragland, who leads the American Soybean Association trade group.

The situation might even be enough to test farmers’ loyalty to Trump, although he still enjoys strong support throughout rural America. If no deal is reached soon, they hope the government will come through with aid as it did during Trump’s first term, but they see that only as a temporary solution. Trump said Thursday he is considering an aid package.

U.S. and Chinese officials have held four rounds of trade talks between May and September, with another likely in the coming weeks. No progress on soybeans has been reported.

Getting closer to harvest, “I’m honestly getting worried that the time is running out,” said Jim Sutter, CEO of the U.S. Soybean Export Council.

Political pressure is growing​

After Trump imposed tariffs on Chinese goods, China responded with tariffs of its own, which now total up to 34% on U.S. soybeans. That makes soybeans from other countries cheaper.

China’s retaliatory tariffs also hit U.S. growers of sorghum, corn and cotton, and even geoduck divers have been affected. But soybeans stand out because of the crop’s outsized importance to U.S. agricultural exports. Soybeans are the top U.S. food export, accounting for about 14% of all farm goods sent overseas.

And China has been by far the largest foreign buyer. Last year, the U.S. exported nearly $24.5 billion worth of soybeans, and China accounted for more than $12.5 billion. That compared with $2.45 billion by the European Union, the second-largest buyer. This year, China hasn’t bought beans since May.

With U.S. farmers hurting, the Trump administration is under growing pressure to reach a deal with China. As talks drag on, Trump appears ready to help.

“We’re going to take some of the tariff money — relatively small amount, but a lot for the farmers — and we’re going to help the farmers out a little bit” during this transition period, Trump said.

The only way most farmers survived Trump’s trade war in his first term was with tens of billions of dollars in government payments. But that’s not what most farmers want.

What farmers expect from Trump​

“The American farmer, especially myself included, we don’t want aid payments,” said Brian Warpup, 52, a fourth-generation farmer from Warren, Indiana. “We want to work. We work the land, we harvest the land, the crop off the land. And the worst thing that we could ever want is a handout.”

Farmers are looking to Trump for a long-term solution.

“Overwhelmingly, farmers have been in President Trump’s corner,” said Ragland, the president of the soybean association. “And I think the message that our soybean farmers as a whole want to deliver is: ‘President Trump, we’ve had your back. We need you to have ours now.’”

He said farmers appreciate the willingness to provide some short-term relief, but what they ultimately need are strong, reliable markets. “Our priority remains seeing the United States secure lasting trade agreements — particularly with China — that allow farmers to sell their crops and build a sustainable future with long-term customers,” he said.

Ragland, 39, hopes his three sons will become the 10th generation to till his 4,500 acres in Magnolia, Kentucky. Unless something changes soon, he worries that thousands of farmers may not survive.

Coming into this year, many farmers were just hoping to break even because crop prices were weak while their costs had only increased. Trump’s tariffs, which helped make their crops uncompetitive around the world, drove prices down further. And tariffs on steel and fertilizer sent costs up even more.

Darin Johnson, president of the Minnesota Soybean Growers Association, said he still has faith in the Trump administration to reach a good trade deal with China.

“I think where the patience is probably wearing thin is the time,” said Johnson, a fourth-generation farmer. “I don’t think anybody thought that we were going to take this much time because we were told 90 deals, 90 deals in 90 days.”

https://apnews.com/article/soybeans...tates-export-025792707c4e4e91d975f8558edae1d8

These fucking twatknuckles have their head in the sand like this is no big deal. How long have I been talking about this?

 

[Cid]

I think this is the biggest disconnect between trumpers and everyone else.

You argued that companies hit by tariffs could just lower their prices. When people told you that would cause the business to go under, you claimed you were just trying to piss people off.

Which leads us to the disconnect: Why would liberals be pissed that you're an idiot? You said something stupid, everyone here said it was stupid, and explained why. So are you sure you're really pissing people off, or do you think it's just a half-dozen people enjoying their coffee and wondering how you ended up this dumb?

Fingers crossed I don't get carded for doxxing him by posting this pic.

 

[fingercuffs]

That should do it

Thanks, matey. Ordered.

 

[AWilder]

- You guys should have elected Kanye

Nah, we don't want that new anthem of his...

 

[Loiosh]

John Birch Society I think, and also look into the political actions of the Daughters of the Confederacy. All those "muh heritage" statues that guarded the institutions in the South, the monuments to racist traitors, that was their work. I've also read Edmund Burke's appeal to society to be nicer to monarchs. Then it was Russell Kirk's praise of him in the U.S.

Surely it's a coincidence that most of these statues were built during Jim Crowe.

That cause, it was pretty lost.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

These fucking twatknuckles have their head in the sand like this is no big deal. How long have I been talking about this?

- I listen to several stupdy theories from my brother. I imagine those farmers are the same. Since they dont have study, because that is gay, they're easy blinded by Trump promises.

 

[Andy Capp]

Trump’s trade battle with China puts US soybean farmers in peril​

BY DIDI TANG AND JOSH FUNK
Updated 2:18 AM BRT, September 27, 2025

MAGNOLIA, Ky. (AP) — The leafy soybean plants reach Caleb Ragland’s thighs and are ripe for harvest, but the Kentucky farmer is deeply worried. He doesn’t know where he and others like him will sell their crop because China has stopped buying.

Beijing, which traditionally has snapped up at least a quarter of all soybeans grown in the U.S., is in effect boycotting them in retaliation for the high tariffs President Donald Trump has imposed on Chinese goods and to strengthen its hand in negotiations over a new overall trade deal.

It has left American soybean farmers fretting over not only this year’s crop but the long-term viability of their businesses, built in part on China’s once-insatiable appetite for U.S. beans.

“This is a five-alarm fire for our industry,” said Ragland, who leads the American Soybean Association trade group.

The situation might even be enough to test farmers’ loyalty to Trump, although he still enjoys strong support throughout rural America. If no deal is reached soon, they hope the government will come through with aid as it did during Trump’s first term, but they see that only as a temporary solution. Trump said Thursday he is considering an aid package.

U.S. and Chinese officials have held four rounds of trade talks between May and September, with another likely in the coming weeks. No progress on soybeans has been reported.

Getting closer to harvest, “I’m honestly getting worried that the time is running out,” said Jim Sutter, CEO of the U.S. Soybean Export Council.

Political pressure is growing​

After Trump imposed tariffs on Chinese goods, China responded with tariffs of its own, which now total up to 34% on U.S. soybeans. That makes soybeans from other countries cheaper.

China’s retaliatory tariffs also hit U.S. growers of sorghum, corn and cotton, and even geoduck divers have been affected. But soybeans stand out because of the crop’s outsized importance to U.S. agricultural exports. Soybeans are the top U.S. food export, accounting for about 14% of all farm goods sent overseas.

And China has been by far the largest foreign buyer. Last year, the U.S. exported nearly $24.5 billion worth of soybeans, and China accounted for more than $12.5 billion. That compared with $2.45 billion by the European Union, the second-largest buyer. This year, China hasn’t bought beans since May.

With U.S. farmers hurting, the Trump administration is under growing pressure to reach a deal with China. As talks drag on, Trump appears ready to help.

“We’re going to take some of the tariff money — relatively small amount, but a lot for the farmers — and we’re going to help the farmers out a little bit” during this transition period, Trump said.

The only way most farmers survived Trump’s trade war in his first term was with tens of billions of dollars in government payments. But that’s not what most farmers want.

What farmers expect from Trump​

“The American farmer, especially myself included, we don’t want aid payments,” said Brian Warpup, 52, a fourth-generation farmer from Warren, Indiana. “We want to work. We work the land, we harvest the land, the crop off the land. And the worst thing that we could ever want is a handout.”

Farmers are looking to Trump for a long-term solution.

“Overwhelmingly, farmers have been in President Trump’s corner,” said Ragland, the president of the soybean association. “And I think the message that our soybean farmers as a whole want to deliver is: ‘President Trump, we’ve had your back. We need you to have ours now.’”

He said farmers appreciate the willingness to provide some short-term relief, but what they ultimately need are strong, reliable markets. “Our priority remains seeing the United States secure lasting trade agreements — particularly with China — that allow farmers to sell their crops and build a sustainable future with long-term customers,” he said.

Ragland, 39, hopes his three sons will become the 10th generation to till his 4,500 acres in Magnolia, Kentucky. Unless something changes soon, he worries that thousands of farmers may not survive.

Coming into this year, many farmers were just hoping to break even because crop prices were weak while their costs had only increased. Trump’s tariffs, which helped make their crops uncompetitive around the world, drove prices down further. And tariffs on steel and fertilizer sent costs up even more.

Darin Johnson, president of the Minnesota Soybean Growers Association, said he still has faith in the Trump administration to reach a good trade deal with China.

“I think where the patience is probably wearing thin is the time,” said Johnson, a fourth-generation farmer. “I don’t think anybody thought that we were going to take this much time because we were told 90 deals, 90 deals in 90 days.”

https://apnews.com/article/soybeans...tates-export-025792707c4e4e91d975f8558edae1d8

Isn't that what I just said? To wit, re: "robbing Peter to pay Paul"

Yeah, except "Peter" is the average American whether a Trump supporter or not (because fuck them, especially poor people), and "Paul" is a specific group of farmers (mostly Republican party supporters, mostly in so-called red states) who fell in line and backed Trump in 2024 because of all the bailouts they received from him the last time he pulled this shit.

How fucking stupid are these people, really? Honest to fuck, they need a kick in the nuts.

 

[PEB]

Yea it was to fuck with certain people in here.

The only way this is kind of true is if the company reduces it price to make up for thr tariff.

Ha ha ha ha please stop
"e company reduces it price to make up for thr tariff"

My grocery store
6 pack of diet coke under Biden was 2.99 for 2, went to 3.99 to now 4.99.



Everything prices are going up so they cleared out the shelves. They don't want to take deliveries till the truck comes full.



Trump at work.

 

[AWilder]

- I listen to several stupdy theories from my brother. I imagine those farmers are the same. Since they dont have study, because that is gay, they're easy blinded by Trump promises.

People don't understand that farmers today are usually multimillionaires with legacy money and influence. So these aren't blue collar guys working from sun up to sun down an a green tractor all day. No, these are rich dudes who golf, go on luxury vacations and occasionally come to check on their farm. So trumps agenda is very much aligned with their socioeconomic position. They got bailed out last time. They expect to be bailed out again. "Too big to fail" and all.

This just makes the smaller guys go bankrupt and guess who's ready to gobble them up?

Decent vid explaining it

 

[Hdfi]

Massive tariffs don't work and free trade is always better.

Mega-capitalist China knows this and has adjusted to buy/sell products to other markets with lower tariffs, and as a result, they're on track for record trade surplus of over $1.2 trillion this year.

 

[Hdfi]

This administration is so inept they gave money to Argentina who hold on, exports soy beans to China. So Trump said fuck you to American farmers but baile out their competitors. All this because a couple dudes swam against women.

Does this mean liberals will stop pushing the trannie agenda?

 

[44nutman]

Does this mean liberals will stop pushing the trannie agenda?

As soon as the GOP stops running interference into the largest sex trafficking ring of teenagers of my lifetime or according to Krazy Eyes Kash Epstein did not traffic anyone.

 

[Hit-N-Run]

Trump playbook….

Lie or exaggerate an issue
Cause problem
Lie about the problem
Come up with some bullshit that will “fix” the problem

Tariff
Steal money from some americans
Give that money to someone else

Fucking Socialist

 

[Loiosh]

Does this mean liberals will stop pushing the trannie agenda?

Depends.

If we could talk about this like human beings, maybe we could come up with human solutions. For instance, I do not support trans women competing in women's sports, and I acknowledge that trans women being in traditionally female spaces is problematic.

That said, competition and being part of a team are important, so we should find ways for them to participate in some way. I don't know what way that would be, but dominating women can't be one of them.

Also, we should find ways to accommodate spaces for trans people. The place I worked for years had men's restrooms, women's, and gender neutral with mostly stalls. There's no reason schools couldn't do the same.

I don't know what the "trannie agenda" is, but do these positions seem radical to you?

 

[Sinister]

I'm noticing a distinct lack of rightism in this thread.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Let's see how it works out in the long term. If it doesn't then Trump will have to own it.

When does Trump own anything?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

To make up for any price rise in the product.
That is they are absorbing the tariff in their profit margins. Some do this but it dont think most do.

The price to thr customer stays close to the same and the company eats the tarrif.

Dude the only companies that can afford to eat tariffs are the massive companies. Small companies can't afford to eat them. Therefore you end up with the small companies folding and the already huge mega corps having even more market share long term.

Is this a future you support?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

With regards to farming it looks like they're crushing American farm exports and forcing Trump to use the revenue collected from American citizens to bail them out.

Less money coming into the country, everyone paying more, America gaining nothing.

whatever it takes to keep those penguins from heard and macdonald island from sending over their fentanyl.

 

[tastaylvr]

For people who hate dei so much they sure love to do dei for themselves lol

 

[curryjunkie]

Wait. So you think it s not regular Americans that are paying these tariffs?

Yes, he is that stupid..