International Trump forced Israel to negotiate with Hamas

In front of the camera

Behind closed doors, he's been caught criticizing Israel's strong control over the US government. There's a leaked audio of him bashing Netanyahu being a needy rat
There was also a leaked audio of Obama critiquing Netanyahu in private, and he still did nothing about it.

Behind control they might not like the guy but the they still heavily support him.

That being said, I am not on any side, just saying that no politician has not been played by Netanyahu
 
I don’t want to derail too much , but seriously think about it. There are some files with list of names laying around in safes ? Anyone that has power or money would have made sure whatever left over evidence was scrubbed and destroyed. Think about Clinton’s email server which was very public and they destroyed phones and other artifacts. It’s a CT with some truth to it all, I’m with you always arrest pieces of shit and if that’s Trump then lock him up. I don’t think you’re a hardcore lefty but you’re very anti Trump going beyond logic sometimes

How am I anti trump if I'm willing to say hes better than Obama or Biden if he reschedules cannabis? Or if he topples the deep state (CIA bureacracy or Pentagon or MIC) like he was talking about in his earlier days.

I'm just holding him to account for specific things and calling him out on things he hasnt delivered on. Whether he himself ran on delivering a closure on the epstein crimes, his administration sure did and he let Kash Patel and Bondi open their big mouths for months (Phase 1 binders) before they suddenly pulled a 180.

I get what you're saying. Occams razor would tell me the truly important files or documents have been shredded long ago. OR the files, the videos, the records of wire transfers and bank records are still around to continue being used as blackmail by some one/party. to hold leverage over some one/parry.

Answer me this as ONE example of fuckery that Trump seems to be ignoring/encouraging/avoiding. The surveillance footage of Epsteins cell that first was gone, then they magically found it, and promised to release it, only to have been found edited and tampered with.

Why on earth is no one holding Kash Patel or Pam Bondi to the fire? After so much contradictions. Are you seriously willing to believe their conclusive statement that Maxwell and Epstein trafficked to NO ONE? Even on the JOE ROGAN podcast Kash is making CONCLUSIVE statements to which Joe Rogan of all people was like "well did you hear about this or look into this" and the dummy Kash was like "that's the first I'm hearing about it let me look into it" like WTF. How are they closing an investigation if theres still pieces of puzzles that need answering (Alex Acosta, Bill Barr, CEOs of banks). Why isnt Trump forcing the DOJ to issue subpoenas for these individuals and get them to answer questions in front of Congress?

The Public is not stupid. Sure you can say theres no organized list of names with a spreadsheet with the clients and their dates of getting massages or molesting children, but you can bet your ass theres a coverup going on. Sorry bro I cant let that go.
 
In the end, it won't really matter because both groups are savages who don't operate in good faith, and the fighting will resume in about a week, but credit to Trump for trying.

I think this is how most feel... let's hope we are wrong.
 
I wonder if Israel will finish the job now since all the hostages are free.
I’m thinking,

Let trump have his bill Clinton moment with peace in the Middle East..

Considering this is all for a ceasefire and not peace treaty.

Israel can pull its troops back to rest and regroup. Ceasefire will be breached in a month and the go ahead to finish the job.

Israel can’t allow Hamas to exist with the rise of drones, iron dome can not protect..
 
I think this is how most feel... let's hope we are wrong.

True, I am fairly optimistic tho, this is the first real attempt of two state solution, and the Arabs are going to be throwing a lot of money at it.

Final form of the Abraham accords.

GOATnald can’t be stopped imo

Only thing I am missing from this historic trip to the Middle East is that he is not handing out Trump 2028 hats to everyone. SMH
 
Israel was still killing Palestinians at this time so it wasn't usual ceasefire stuff imo. The extension of the ceasefire to honor Ramadan and the Passover made sense. Hamas rejected it and Israel continued on by halting aid etc. I think the extension was right but ultimately there was a breakdown. I still dont know this will move forward on the Hamas side. I think the US could have threatened Israel long before this so on that I think we have never really utilized our leverage.
So in other words, Israel (with Trump's clear backing), sabotaged the winter ceasefire?

And yes, I agree that Biden and Trump both missed chances to bring Israel to the table.
 
So in other words, Israel (with Trump's clear backing), sabotaged the winter ceasefire?

And yes, I agree that Biden and Trump both missed chances to bring Israel to the table.
I dont think sabotage exactly. I dont know why Hamas said no to extension of ceasefire to two of the biggest religious holidays. Not sure Israel was really trying. Ultimately I think Netanyahu is a terrible leader for Israel and I was happy that the Israelis were booing his name at hostage square. Hopefully this whole thing sealed his fate. There's nothing that really needs to be said about Hamas as they are just a terrorist organization pretending to be political leadership.

I think we both agree that the US could do incredible things in order to bring about peace in that country. Why no one has done anything for so many years is impossible to say but we have always had the leverage.
 
You are absolutely idiotic.

Western far right and also reps always had supported Israel more than even according to you bad dems you living in internet and eating benefits are yelling about.
Cos you are living on benefits and it is your life.
Trump administration had supplied Israel more weapons than bad Biden.
Idiotic left west had supplied Egypt more than Ukr.


For you empty yelling is best you are capable for a living .
What? The western far right are the neo Nazis and KKK. They hate Israel. They also have no representation in the Republican Party (despite what retarded leftists will tell you). The modern Republican party supports the evangelicals who demand support for Israel no matter what. You drooling moron
 
I dont think sabotage exactly. I dont know why Hamas said no to extension of ceasefire to two of the biggest religious holidays. Not sure Israel was really trying. Ultimately I think Netanyahu is a terrible leader for Israel and I was happy that the Israelis were booing his name at hostage square. Hopefully this whole thing sealed his fate. There's nothing that really needs to be said about Hamas as they are just a terrorist organization pretending to be political leadership.

I think we both agree that the US could do incredible things in order to bring about peace in that country. Why no one has done anything for so many years is impossible to say but we have always had the leverage.
Hamas didn't so no to a ceasefire, the term s of the agreement would that the ceasefire would continue indefinitely while negotiations for phase 2 continued. Israel instead offered an entirely new framework instead of proceeding to phase 2, hence Israel's attacks to start Ramadan came as a surprise to Hamas and most of the West.

And yes, Bibi is uniquely awful as far as self-interested political operators go, and unfortunately is among the best Israel has ever seen in self preservation.

And agreed, Hamas was a failure as a governing body, they were never going to succeed and they were quite slow to learn how to do basic governing.
 
Trump is still way behind Clinton- this is just a ceasefire- the Camp David meetings actually offered the Palestinians a state. Of course, Arafat turned that down, to the great detriment of the Palestinians since their life could have been a lot different if he had accepted it.

I'll still give Trump some credit for accomplishing this if it holds. I'm not so sure it will though.
 
Trump is still way behind Clinton- this is just a ceasefire- the Camp David meetings actually offered the Palestinians a state. Of course, Arafat turned that down, to the great detriment of the Palestinians since their life could have been a lot different if he had accepted it.

I'll still give Trump some credit for accomplishing this if it holds. I'm not so sure it will though.
It won’t last. Arafat was PLO and he wouldn’t compromise. This isn’t a politics issue or even a Hamas issue. it’s a religious issue to the Arabs. Modern day Israel is a religious abomination to even the non Arabic Muslims.

Most westerners fail to understand this unless they actually study Islam.

Not that Israel is innocent, but they’ll never be accepted as a nation in that part of the world.
 
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