International Hamas accepts an Arab ceasefire proposal on Gaza as Palestinian death toll passes 62,000

[filthybliss]

israel has almost 2m "palestinian's" as citizens of israel with equal rights. some serve in the IDF.

This is the same arguement that Radovan Karadžić and Saddam Hussein used at the Hague. There were Kurds and Bosniaks living within the country that weren't attacked so there was no genocide in Sbrenicica or Iraq.

Do you think they are innocent too like Netanyahu? They used the same arguements that they were fighting Islamists Insurgents too.

 

[Snubnoze707]

The solution i posted Israel is not going to like even if ypu could get the Palestinians to agree with it.

However its the only one thats going to work.

You can bullshit about anything you want but thats the truth.

Why are you bringing up irrelevant shit? I'm not concerned about the merits of your "solution"...

You are making claims that somehow Palestinian civilians are uniquely detested for their actions. HOW?

That is what we were debating. I guess you've abandoned that because now you are trying to deflect and shift.

 

[Koro_11]

Just because you refuse to educate and inform yourself on the matter cause it's too complex for you, and gets you out of your comfort zone of talking about immigration 24/7 (*), doesn't mean other people don't make that effort.

(*): it can be a legit concern no problem. But if it's the only thing you can talk about, they stick with that and don't try to sound all snarky when other people discuss geopolitical issues with knowledge you refuse to take the steps to acquire.

You want me to educate myself on some shit that I can have ZERO influence over and that has ZERO significance in my life.

I talk about a lot of things, but the migrant crisis is something current that's actually real in my life and it's affecting me and my neighbourhood and my country. Putin, Zalenski, Netenyahu, Hamas... none of that shit has any impact on my day to day life, and I don't need to comment on it or pick sides because I don't know and don't care. I have my family and my kids to worry about, not someone else's conflict on the other side of the world, and I'm laughing at the rest of you because most of you are as clueless as me about it, but you just pick whatever side you think your political party wants you to pick.

 

[filthybliss]

You want me to educate myself on some shit that I can have ZERO influence over and that has ZERO significance in my life.

I talk about a lot of things, but the migrant crisis is something current that's actually real in my life and it's affecting me and my neighbourhood and my country. Putin, Zalenski, Netenyahu, Hamas... none of that shit has any impact on my day to day life, and I don't need to comment on it or pick sides because I don't know and don't care. I have my family and my kids to worry about, not someone else's conflict on the other side of the world, and I'm laughing at the rest of you because most of you are as clueless as me about it, but you just pick whatever side you think your political party wants you to pick.

I hate to be that guy but they are all interconnected. Those migrants that you don't like are the biproduct of foreign conflict like Russia's invasion of Ukraine or Israel's occupation of the West Bank+Gaza.

 

[Koro_11]

I hate to be that guy but they are all interconnected. Those migrants that you don't like are the biproduct of foreign conflict like Russia's invasion of Ukraine or Israel's occupation of the West Bank+Gaza.

You think the 3 million unvetted Indian migrants who came to Canada last decade are due to the recent conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine?

 

[oldshadow]

Why are you bringing up irrelevant shit? I'm not concerned about the merits of your "solution"...

You are making claims that somehow Palestinian civilians are uniquely detested for their actions. HOW?

That is what we were debating. I guess you've abandoned that because now you are trying to deflect and shift.

Why does not other Arab country allow them in in mass after Black September. No one wants them because of what has happened befote.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Why does not other Arab country allow them in in mass after Black September. No one wants them because of what has happened befote.

Why doesn't a country want a mass migration of refugees? Is that a serious question?

The Palestinians don't want to leave, nor do other Arab countries want to facilitate Genocide, which the relocation of a population is an aspect of.

It's also not true to say that other Arab countries won't take Palestinians after 1970. Lebanon has taken 470,000 Palestinians. 100,000 went to Syria. Iraq, Libya, and Algeria also took them in.

You're just repeating bullshit Israeli talking points.

 

[oldshadow]

Why doesn't a country want a mass migration of refugees? Is that a serious question?

The Palestinians don't want to leave, nor do other Arab countries want to facilitate Genocide, which the relocation of a population is an aspect of.

It's also not true to say that other Arab countries won't take Palestinians. Jordan has taken 2 million of them. Lebanon has taken 470,000 Palestinians. 100,000 went to Syria.

You're just repeating bullshit Israeli talking points.

"The two countries, which flank Israel on opposite sides and share borders with Gaza and the occupied West Bank, respectively, have replied with a staunch refusal. Jordan already has a large Palestinian population.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi made his toughest remarks yet on Wednesday, saying the current war was not just aimed at fighting Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, “but also an attempt to push the civilian inhabitants to ... migrate to Egypt.” He warned this could wreck peace in the region.

Jordan’s King Abdullah II gave a similar message a day earlier, saying, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”

Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza

As desperate Palestinians in sealed-off Gaza try to find refuge under Israel’s relentless bombardment in retaliation for Hamas’ brutal Oct. 7 attack, many ask why neighboring Egypt or other Arab countries don’t take them in.

apnews.com

 

[kflo]

This is the same arguement that Radovan Karadžić and Saddam Hussein used at the Hague. There were Kurds and Bosniaks living within the country that weren't attacked so there was no genocide in Sbrenicica or Iraq.

Do you think they are innocent too like Netanyahu? They used the same arguements that they were fighting Islamists Insurgents too.

But again, “Palestinians” aren’t the enemy like snub likes to pretend. I’m not pretending there can’t be war crimes against Gaza because israel has Palestinian citizens. But they are at war with Gaza. Not “Palestinians”.

Note I am against expansion in area c and it saddens me to see it. It makes everyone less safe.

 

[Snubnoze707]

"The two countries, which flank Israel on opposite sides and share borders with Gaza and the occupied West Bank, respectively, have replied with a staunch refusal. Jordan already has a large Palestinian population.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi made his toughest remarks yet on Wednesday, saying the current war was not just aimed at fighting Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, “but also an attempt to push the civilian inhabitants to ... migrate to Egypt.” He warned this could wreck peace in the region.

Jordan’s King Abdullah II gave a similar message a day earlier, saying, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”

Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza

As desperate Palestinians in sealed-off Gaza try to find refuge under Israel’s relentless bombardment in retaliation for Hamas’ brutal Oct. 7 attack, many ask why neighboring Egypt or other Arab countries don’t take them in.

apnews.com

So none of them are claiming that they wont take them because they are somehow uniquely violent or unruley? You just proved my point with those sources.

Do you agree with the Egyptian Presidents take that Israel is not just targeting Hamas, but the whole Palestinian population?

Yes, Israel successfully ethnically cleansing all of Gaza would wreck peace in the region.

 

[Snubnoze707]

And just to further point out, the argument of "Nobody wants them" was used against Jews.

Same exact playbook.

 

[kflo]

Why doesn't a country want a mass migration of refugees? Is that a serious question?

The Palestinians don't want to leave, nor do other Arab countries want to facilitate Genocide, which the relocation of a population is an aspect of.

It's also not true to say that other Arab countries won't take Palestinians after 1970. Lebanon has taken 470,000 Palestinians. 100,000 went to Syria. Iraq, Libya, and Algeria also took them in.

You're just repeating bullshit Israeli talking points.

Egypt of course could annex Gaza and not migrate anyone. But they don’t want that smoke. Jordan had the West Bank. Before they attacked Israel of course.

 

[oldshadow]

So none of them are claiming that they wont take them because they are somehow uniquely violent or unruley? You just proved my point with those sources.

Do you agree with the Egyptian Presidents take that Israel is not just targeting Hamas, but the whole Palestinian population?

Yes, Israel successfully ethnically cleansing all of Gaza would wreck peace in the region.

I agree Israel is going after them because they support hamas. This being right or wrong depends on who you ask. I say its not going to work and thats why I stated the only that would work.

 

[Snubnoze707]

I agree Israel is going after them because they support hamas. This being right or wrong depends on who you ask. I say its not going to work and thats why I stated the only that would work.

Literally nobody in Israel is claiming this. Nobody is saying they are targeting civilians because of Hamas support.

They are going after them because they want to cleanse the region of Palestinians and absorb Gaza into Greater Israel.

They aren't hiding this, they are telling you this right to your face.

 

[avenue94]

Yeah, me referencing Hamas made it impossible to understand the time period I was referring to, genius.

You mixed tenses, if you want to parachute into a conversation discussing one time period to talk another time period, toss in a preposition.

 

[avenue94]

More bullshit thst will end up back where we are today.

Again, it's significantly more realistic than your idea of apartheid paired with MAD. Like...what are you even basing your idea on, it's comical.

Also you realize most of what peacekeepers do is literally keep combatants seperated?

 

[kflo]

You mixed tenses, if you want to parachute into a conversation discussing one time period to talk another time period, toss in a preposition.

Again play dumb. Be my guest.

 

[HereticBD]

Also you realize most of what peacekeepers do is literally keep combatants seperated?

Until they can't and run away. The only "peacekeepers" who would be effective at keeping Islamic Extremists at bay, are occupying military forces who kill them when they act up.

LOL @ thinking anything less is gonna stop the next potential Palestinian State from attacking Israel, once the terrorists dispose of whatever puppet government is put in place.

 

[avenue94]

Again play dumb. Be my guest.

I don't even know what you're trying to disagree on, you keep grasping for anything to try and disagree about.

 

[kflo]

I don't even know what you're trying to disagree on, you keep grasping for anything to try and disagree about.

Says the “you mixed tenses” guy. Lol.