International Hamas accepts an Arab ceasefire proposal on Gaza as Palestinian death toll passes 62,000

[Snubnoze707]

They support terrorism against Israel. Israel hits back and it goes on and on.

And Israeli civilians support the IDF terrorist attacks and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, at a much larger scale. Israeli civilians don't just support it, they participate in it in the West Bank, and they all participate in the IDF as well due to conscription.

This is your only example, "support of terrorism"...?

An occupied group of people support attacks on the occupiers is your big "gotcha" that makes Palestinians from Gaza uniquely worse than other groups of people?

 

[oldshadow]

And Israeli civilians support the IDF terrorist attacks and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, at a much larger scale. Israeli civilians don't just support it, they participate in it in the West Bank, and they all participate in the IDF as well due to conscription.

This is your only example, "support of terrorism"...?

An occupied group of people support attacks on the occupiers is your big "gotcha" that makes Palestinians from Gaza uniquely worse than other groups of people?

And here we have an example of why there this will never stop without total isolation with conditions of enforcement.

But I would bet you will not support.

 

[kflo]

And Israeli civilians support the IDF terrorist attacks and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, at a much larger scale. Israeli civilians don't just support it, they participate in it in the West Bank, and they all participate in the IDF as well due to conscription.

This is your only example, "support of terrorism"...?

An occupied group of people support attacks on the occupiers is your big "gotcha" that makes Palestinians from Gaza uniquely worse than other groups of people?

israel has almost 2m "palestinian's" as citizens of israel with equal rights. some serve in the IDF.

 

[avenue94]

obviously they should get full autonomy........................hamas should have been given it in the past as well.

If only there were other options besides the two extremes.

You've literally made this kind of comment before and I've made the same reply. Why don't you focus your hack energies on someone more receptive?

 

[avenue94]

They occupied because of the constant attacks. The goal was and still is to drive Israel into the sea.

Occupation is mot the solution but a desperate attempt. Its still not going to work.

The only thing that will work is total destruction or total isolation. And even that is not 100% sure.

Which years of the occupation are you referring to?

There are middle grounds between your unrealistic options, like peacekeepers or backing more moderate Palestian players.

It's also important to accept that any solution will take decades and be painfully slow.

 

[kflo]

If only there were other options besides the two extremes.

You've literally made this kind of comment before and I've made the same reply. Why don't you focus your hack energies on someone more receptive?

because anything they do you'll call an "occupation". they had no choice but to restrict gaza (which you blame them for anyway), and depsite that, hamas still built a terror network throughout gaza.

 

[Blayt7hh]

It is an example of why no one can live with them or next to them unless they are separate and forced to behave.

A conflict that happened before most of them were alive? A conflict that happened after they had already been dispossessed from their homes in the 60s btw.

Also btw, I have never acted like this is all Israel’s fault. I’m sure more than one poster itt is getting a chuckle out of that accusation.

 

[avenue94]

because anything they do you'll call an "occupation". they had no choice but to restrict gaza (which you blame them for anyway), and depsite that, hamas still built a terror network throughout gaza.

I'm referring specifically to Israel's occupation of Palestine pre 2000. Are you disputing that it was an occupation?

 

[kflo]

I'm referring specifically to Israel's occupation of Palestine pre 2000. Are you disputing that it was an occupation?

when i referenced hamas getting full autonomy, do you think i was referring to pre-2000?

 

[avenue94]

when i referenced hamas getting full autonomy, do you think i was referring to pre-2000?

You used the future tense and past tense when referring to Hamas.

Make up your mind as to what you're talking about.

 

[kflo]

You used the future tense and past tense when referring to Hamas.

Make up your mind as to what you're talking about.

did you think the past tense meant pre-2000?

it was pretty clear what i was saying.

 

[Snubnoze707]

And here we have an example of why there this will never stop without total isolation with conditions of enforcement.

But I would bet you will not support.

Huh? We weren't discussing solutions to the conflict. You're just abandoning your position of Palestinians in Gaza being uniquely worse than all other Arabs (Palestinians are actually more closely related to Jews than Arabs) once that argument broke down?

Nothing to say about the points I just brought up in regards to the Israeli population?

 

[avenue94]

did you think the past tense meant pre-2000?

it was pretty clear what i was saying.

because anything they do you'll call an "occupation". they had no choice but to restrict gaza (which you blame them for anyway), and depsite that, hamas still built a terror network throughout gaza.

Yes, it's clear that you interjected with a random strawman.

It's not my fault you're bad at communicating, add a freaking preposition if you want to discuss specific time periods. I was speaking about the occupation of Gaza before the 2000s.

 

[kflo]

Yes, it's clear that you interjected with a random strawman.

It's not my fault you're bad at communicating, add a freaking preposition if you want to discuss specific time periods. I was speaking about the occupation of Gaza before the 2000s.

Yeah, me referencing Hamas made it impossible to understand the time period I was referring to, genius.

 

[oldshadow]

Which years of the occupation are you referring to?

There are middle grounds between your unrealistic options, like peacekeepers or backing more moderate Palestian players.

It's also important to accept that any solution will take decades and be painfully slow.

More bullshit thst will end up back where we are today.

 

[oldshadow]

A conflict that happened before most of them were alive? A conflict that happened after they had already been dispossessed from their homes in the 60s btw.

Also btw, I have never acted like this is all Israel’s fault. I’m sure more than one poster itt is getting a chuckle out of that accusation.

I never said it was all any one person fault.

The only answer to this thats going to work even over time is the one I said.

 

[oldshadow]

Huh? We weren't discussing solutions to the conflict. You're just abandoning your position of Palestinians in Gaza being uniquely worse than all other Arabs (Palestinians are actually more closely related to Jews than Arabs) once that argument broke down?

Nothing to say about the points I just brought up in regards to the Israeli population?

The solution i posted Israel is not going to like even if ypu could get the Palestinians to agree with it.

However its the only one thats going to work.

You can bullshit about anything you want but thats the truth.

 

[Koro_11]

LOL, ya the solution to the Israel Gaza conflict will be discovered by the geopolitical experts on sherdogs karate forum.

Man, you guys are hilarious.

 

[Koya]

LOL, ya the solution to the Israel Gaza conflict will be discovered by the geopolitical experts on sherdogs karate forum.

Man, you guys are hilarious.

Just because you refuse to educate and inform yourself on the matter cause it's too complex for you, and gets you out of your comfort zone of talking about immigration 24/7 (*), doesn't mean other people don't make that effort.

(*): it can be a legit concern no problem. But if it's the only thing you can talk about, they stick with that and don't try to sound all snarky when other people discuss geopolitical issues with knowledge you refuse to take the steps to acquire.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

What are all these problems that Palestinian civilians from Gaza are causing?

Not dying fast enough for Israel?

- The same that american civilians that got kiled by IGF did.
Also if atacking unrelated people, because of the choices of the goverment, So it's free to attack americans? Like in 11 of 9? Or just poor brown people?