International Hamas accepts an Arab ceasefire proposal on Gaza as Palestinian death toll passes 62,000

[Koya]

You want me to educate myself on some shit that I can have ZERO influence over and that has ZERO significance in my life.

I talk about a lot of things, but the migrant crisis is something current that's actually real in my life and it's affecting me and my neighbourhood and my country. Putin, Zalenski, Netenyahu, Hamas... none of that shit has any impact on my day to day life, and I don't need to comment on it or pick sides because I don't know and don't care. I have my family and my kids to worry about, not someone else's conflict on the other side of the world, and I'm laughing at the rest of you because most of you are as clueless as me about it, but you just pick whatever side you think your political party wants you to pick.

I have my family and kids to take care of too. That's why when I see thousands of kids starving and dying of hunger I deeply care.

If it doesn't matter to you and is so inconsequential, why are you chimming on every thread on the subject to show us how cool you are by not caring ? Just talk about your favourite subjects in other threads. Seems like something is bothering you tho.

Your last sentence is asinine, it's just pure cope. It's not as cool as you think it is.

PS: Oh and btw it has a direct impact on your country since the US gives billions of dollars to israel each year without any reciprocities. So they can have free healthcare and scientific education and kill lots and lots of babies. Money that can go guarding the borders and taking the illegals out you know. Canada does it too. So yes, it impacts domestic policies very much.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

It is how they are raised.

To be fair they've been raised with an oppressive neighbour making their lives a misery. While I'd like to think I wouldn't grow up with a hatred for an entire nation in that circumstance I didn't grow up in that situation so I can't really be sure. Had the Scottish military killed a lot of my friends and family perhaps I'd be like they are towards Israelis towards the Scots.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Why does not other Arab country allow them in in mass after Black September. No one wants them because of what has happened befote.

I don't think it's a mystery as to why a country wouldn't want a few million PTSD ridden refugees at one time wherever they're from.

 

[The_Renaissance]

To be fair they've been raised with an oppressive neighbour making their lives a misery. While I'd like to think I wouldn't grow up with a hatred for an entire nation in that circumstance I didn't grow up in that situation so I can't really be sure. Had the Scottish military killed a lot of my friends and family perhaps I'd be like they are towards Israelis towards the Scots.

So have the Israelis. To the point they had to invent an iron dome to intercept dozens of rockets on a daily basis.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

So have the Israelis. To the point they had to invent an iron dome to intercept dozens of rockets on a daily basis.

If we're being honest it's not to the same extent though is it.

But yes I can see why both sides hate each other and let's be honest they're both brought up to do that.

 

[balkanbomber85]

Over the past few weeks, I’ve seen so many videos of Gazans staging horrific war scenes, with women and children “made up with fake clothes and make up” to look like victims—fake crying among ruins, while multiple cameramen film them. I’ve even seen scenes where several actors laugh during their performances, supposedly portraying war victims.

At the same time, there are numerous videos showing well-functioning restaurants and cafés in Gaza, with people eating, drinking, and enjoying themselves. I honestly don’t know what to believe.

Keep in mind, Gaza is only about 40 by 10 km—you could literally walk from one side to the other in a day or two. How is it possible that there are working restaurants with food and drinks while, at the same time, we are told that children are dying of starvation?​

 

[tastaylvr]

Give Israel the hostages, take away their last excuse for continuing this war.


Oh wait you can't because you killed them months ago...

R.i.p

 

[tastaylvr]

Over the past few weeks, I’ve seen so many videos of Gazans staging horrific war scenes, with women and children “made up with fake clothes and make up” to look like victims—fake crying among ruins, while multiple cameramen film them. I’ve even seen scenes where several actors laugh during their performances, supposedly portraying war victims.

At the same time, there are numerous videos showing well-functioning restaurants and cafés in Gaza, with people eating, drinking, and enjoying themselves. I honestly don’t know what to believe.

Keep in mind, Gaza is only about 40 by 10 km—you could literally walk from one side to the other in a day or two. How is it possible that there are working restaurants with food and drinks while, at the same time, we are told that children are dying of starvation?​

Post the video please

 

[Koro_11]

I have my family and kids to take care of too. That's why when I see thousands of kids starving and dying of hunger I deeply care.

If it doesn't matter to you and is so inconsequential, why are you chimming on every thread on the subject to show us how cool you are by not caring ? Just talk about your favourite subjects in other threads. Seems like something is bothering you tho.

Your last sentence is asinine, it's just pure cope. It's not as cool as you think it is.

PS: Oh and btw it has a direct impact on your country since the US gives billions of dollars to israel each year without any reciprocities. So they can have free healthcare and scientific education and kill lots and lots of babies. Money that can go guarding the borders and taking the illegals out you know. Canada does it too. So yes, it impacts domestic policies very much.

My last sentence was me just guessing, but now that you pushed back on it I did a quick search of your most recent replies and it turns out my last sentence is 100% accurate in your case.

Let's see:

-you take the position that Palestinians are victims and Israel are the oppressors
-you bash Trump and republicans
-you think Zalenski good guy, Putin bad guy
-you think it's a good idea that western Europe doesn't allow it's citizen to have guns
-you're upset that a bunch of Hezbollah terrorists got their nuts blown off by pagers

I don't know all your positions but I bet I can guess them with pretty good accuracy considering that a 3 minute search of your posting history has me 5/5.

Yeah no one is happy about kids starving, but there are kids starving and dying all over the world and I can't do anything about that, my responsibility are my own children, and those children are the responsibility of their own parents, at the end of the day they're at war over there and terrible things happen in a war. I'm not on the side of the Israelis or the Palestinians, but I bet if Palestine could wipe every Jew off the face of the earth they would do it, so as far as I'm concerned it's fair game, they hate each other so much and there are no good guys in that conflict, just as there are no good guys in Russia vs Ukraine.

You're against US helping Israel and you think that money would be better spent domestically, but I bet you're all for US helping Ukraine. Yeah I bet the 30 BILLION dollars they sent to Zalenski could have gone a long way in fixing some of their problems at home.

You claim you're against killing babies, so what's your position on abortion?

 

[balkanbomber85]

I don't know all your positions but I bet I can guess them with pretty good accuracy considering that a 3 minute search of your posting history has me 5/5.

He will theoretically care for anyone he needs to, just so long as we believe his lies and it helps him push his narrative to spread hate against jews. According to the last official numbers (which Al Jazeera also confirms), over 400,000 people have died in Yemen between 2014 and today. Out of those 400,000, more than 250,000 were children under 10 years old, and of those, over 150,000 were killed directly in combat. The rest died indirectly—from hunger and the collapse of medical care.

That’s nearly seven times more deaths than in Gaza. Yet you don’t see him digging up the old Yemen thread, which is just collecting dust in the war room. You don’t see opening new threads to remind us all over the fact that so many more children died there than in Gaza. Or to remind us that anyone not writing about Yemen isn’t human. And if the argument is - yeah because the worst happened already - then why did he not write when this was happening!? He was on the dawg when most kids died there!

No, he only pretends to care about those deaths if someone directly confronts him about it. Then he has to save face and say, “Yes, I do care.” But outside of that? Nothing. Why? Are 250,000 dead Yemeni children somehow worth less—because they weren’t killed by Jews, but by Sunni Saudis and Shia Iranians?​

 

[Koro_11]

He will theoretically care for anyone he needs to, just so long as we believe his lies and it helps him push his narrative to spread hate against jews. According to the last official numbers (which Al Jazeera also confirms), over 400,000 people have died in Yemen between 2014 and today. Out of those 400,000, more than 250,000 were children under 10 years old, and of those, over 150,000 were killed directly in combat. The rest died indirectly—from hunger and the collapse of medical care.

That’s nearly seven times more deaths than in Gaza. Yet you don’t see him digging up the old Yemen thread, which is just collecting dust in the war room. You don’t see opening new threads to remind us all over the fact that so many more children died there than in Gaza. Or to remind us that anyone not writing about Yemen isn’t human. And if the argument is - yeah because the worst happened already - then why did he not write when this was happening!? He was on the dawg when most kids died there!

No, he only pretends to care about those deaths if someone directly confronts him about it. Then he has to save face and say, “Yes, I do care.” But outside of that? Nothing. Why? Are 250,000 dead Yemeni children somehow worth less—because they weren’t killed by Jews, but by Sunni Saudis and Shia Iranians?​

Yeah I'm not surprised.

What's even more amazing about people like him is that they'll so easily call people right of center "Nazis" whenever it suits their argument. You're a Nazi if you're a conservative, but I'm not a Nazi when I chant "from the river to the sea". Hilarious.

 

[balkanbomber85]

Yeah I'm not surprised.

What's even more amazing about people like him is that they'll so easily call people right of center "Nazis" whenever it suits their argument. You're a Nazi if you're a conservative, but I'm not a Nazi when I chant "from the river to the sea". Hilarious.

He, like many people from his culture, is pretty damn good at moral blackmailing. He invents his own standards (anyone who is not for the palestinians and even in the slightest tries to explain why Israel is attacking them l is not human, would be one) and then declares that anyone who doesn’t follow them is automatically a bad person—without even giving you the chance to explain yourself. That is one of the ugliest tactics anyone can use in a conversation. It’s immoral, and it’s highly manipulative.​

 

[Koro_11]

He, like many people from his culture, is pretty damn good at moral blackmailing. He invents his own standards (anyone who is not for the palestinians and even in the slightest tries to explain why Israel is attacking them l is not human, would be one) and then declares that anyone who doesn’t follow them is automatically a bad person—without even giving you the chance to explain yourself. That is one of the ugliest tactics anyone can use in a conversation. It’s immoral, and it’s highly manipulative.​

It's a typical leftist playbook, whenever someone proposes a position you disagree with, just call them a racist, bigot, transphobe, and pretend to be morally superior... it's the ultimate get out of jail free card when you can't put together a coherent counter argument.

Emotional/moral blackmail is exactly what it is, "if you don't think like me you're just a bad person, look how virtuous I am, I care more about THE KIDS" (unless the topic is abortion, then you can kill as many kids as you'd like because it's a woman's right to chose you bigot, or like you said, unless it's kids being killed in some other part of the world that doesn't involve a western power, like Yemen, they don't give a shit about those kids because they can't blame the jooos and Christians for it).

It's the same thing when it comes to their supposed outrage for women's rights, they'll twist themselves in a knot screeching to get some working class western guy fired for telling a sexist joke at work, but at the same time they'll call you an Islamaphobe if you criticize some Muslim country for mutilating young girls vaginas or stoning her to death for being the victim of a gang rape.

The amount of contradiction and mental gymnastics these people have to perform on a daily basis is staggering, it must be really exhausting for them.

 

[The_Renaissance]

He will theoretically care for anyone he needs to, just so long as we believe his lies and it helps him push his narrative to spread hate against jews. According to the last official numbers (which Al Jazeera also confirms), over 400,000 people have died in Yemen between 2014 and today. Out of those 400,000, more than 250,000 were children under 10 years old, and of those, over 150,000 were killed directly in combat. The rest died indirectly—from hunger and the collapse of medical care.

That’s nearly seven times more deaths than in Gaza. Yet you don’t see him digging up the old Yemen thread, which is just collecting dust in the war room. You don’t see opening new threads to remind us all over the fact that so many more children died there than in Gaza. Or to remind us that anyone not writing about Yemen isn’t human. And if the argument is - yeah because the worst happened already - then why did he not write when this was happening!? He was on the dawg when most kids died there!

No, he only pretends to care about those deaths if someone directly confronts him about it. Then he has to save face and say, “Yes, I do care.” But outside of that? Nothing. Why? Are 250,000 dead Yemeni children somehow worth less—because they weren’t killed by Jews, but by Sunni Saudis and Shia Iranians?​

I genuinely couldn't tell you what the Yemen flag looks like. I have never seen it once on the streets of the UK, not fucking once, not even being displayed by Muslims. I'm pretty knowledgable about flags and if I'd seen one I didn't recognise, I'd know about it - just had a look, looks like the Egypt flag a bit.

It's a typical leftist playbook, whenever someone proposes a position you disagree with, just call them a racist, bigot, transphobe, and pretend to be morally superior... it's the ultimate get out of jail free card when you can't put together a coherent counter argument.

Emotional/moral blackmail is exactly what it is, "if you don't think like me you're just a bad person, look how virtuous I am, I care more about THE KIDS" (unless the topic is abortion, then you can kill as many kids as you'd like because it's a woman's right to chose you bigot, or like you said, unless it's kids being killed in some other part of the world that doesn't involve a western power, like Yemen, they don't give a shit about those kids because they can't blame the jooos and Christians for it).

It's the same thing when it comes to their supposed outrage for women's rights, they'll twist themselves in a knot screeching to get some working class western guy fired for telling a sexist joke at work, but at the same time they'll call you an Islamaphobe if you criticize some Muslim country for mutilating young girls vaginas or stoning her to death for being the victim of a gang rape.

The amount of contradiction and mental gymnastics these people have to perform on a daily basis is staggering, it must be really exhausting for them.

It's why most of them are riddled with anxiety and depression and other mental illnesses, it is mentally exhausting to have to perform such warped gymnastics to justify having such ridiculously contradictory beliefs.

 

[balkanbomber85]

It's a typical leftist playbook, whenever someone proposes a position you disagree with, just call them a racist, bigot, transphobe, and pretend to be morally superior... it's the ultimate get out of jail free card when you can't put together a coherent counter argument.

Emotional/moral blackmail is exactly what it is, "if you don't think like me you're just a bad person, look how virtuous I am, I care more about THE KIDS" (unless the topic is abortion, then you can kill as many kids as you'd like because it's a woman's right to chose you bigot, or like you said, unless it's kids being killed in some other part of the world that doesn't involve a western power, like Yemen, they don't give a shit about those kids because they can't blame the jooos and Christians for it).

It's the same thing when it comes to their supposed outrage for women's rights, they'll twist themselves in a knot screeching to get some working class western guy fired for telling a sexist joke at work, but at the same time they'll call you an Islamaphobe if you criticize some Muslim country for mutilating young girls vaginas or stoning her to death for being the victim of a gang rape.

The amount of contradiction and mental gymnastics these people have to perform on a daily basis is staggering, it must be really exhausting for them.

I agree!

 

[balkanbomber85]

I genuinely couldn't tell you what the Yemen flag looks like. I have never seen it once on the streets of the UK, not fucking once, not even being displayed by Muslims.

They don’t care because it’s just Muslims killing Muslims. Remember, it’s only considered inhumane or labeled a genocide when non-Muslims kill Muslims. As long as they’re killing each other, it’s dismissed as “just another conflict” that’s “too complex to judge.”

 

[The_Renaissance]

They don’t care because it’s just Muslims killing Muslims. Remember, it’s only considered inhumane or labeled a genocide when non-Muslims kill Muslims. As long as they’re killing each other, it’s dismissed as “just another conflict” that’s “too complex to judge.”

Its not only limited to Muslims either. None of the cunts gave a shit about the Myanmar stuff with the Rohingya, simply because there was no light skin in the game. Regardless of religion, if it's two groups of colour, they ignore it - like they ignore every single conflict going on in Africa and always have. They only profess to care if white people / westerners are involved because then it's easy to pick a side - the non-white side.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Why doesn't a country want a mass migration of refugees? Is that a serious question?

The Palestinians don't want to leave, nor do other Arab countries want to facilitate Genocide, which the relocation of a population is an aspect of.

It's also not true to say that other Arab countries won't take Palestinians after 1970. Lebanon has taken 470,000 Palestinians. 100,000 went to Syria. Iraq, Libya, and Algeria also took them in.

You're just repeating bullshit Israeli talking points.

Lebanon is a warning for taking in Muslims en masse.

 

[balkanbomber85]

Its not only limited to Muslims either. None of the cunts gave a shit about the Myanmar stuff with the Rohingya, simply because there was no light skin in the game. Regardless of religion, if it's two groups of colour, they ignore it - like they ignore every single conflict going on in Africa and always have. They only profess to care if white people / westerners are involved because then it's easy to pick a side - the non-white side.

I have to disagree. I know quite a few Muslims, and they are all aware of Palestine, the Rohingya, and the Uyghurs in China, and they do bring these examples up when discussing about victims around the world. Sure, Palestinians get the most attention, but the ones I know are also aware of the other two and mention them. However, they never acknowledge the victims who die because of Muslims, whether those victims are Muslim or non-Muslim.​

 

[Koro_11]

Its not only limited to Muslims either. None of the cunts gave a shit about the Myanmar stuff with the Rohingya, simply because there was no light skin in the game. Regardless of religion, if it's two groups of colour, they ignore it - like they ignore every single conflict going on in Africa and always have. They only profess to care if white people / westerners are involved because then it's easy to pick a side - the non-white side.

Yup, it sounds oversimplistic but that's really what their entire worldview comes down to.

If it's a white Christian vs an Israeli Jew, they will side with the Jewish guy because they deem him "less white".

If it's a Jewish guy vs a Palestinian, well now the Jewish guy gets demoted because he's more white now.

And if Palestine goes to war with some place like Uganda, then the Palestinian will become the oppressor in their mind.

They have no real stance on anything, they are supposedly for taking in any migrants that want to come to the west, and especially if those migrants are considered to be persecuted in their home country... UNTIL the migrants were white Afrikaners, then they were suddenly against immigration for that particular case.

The white Afrikaners are getting butchered by black people there, aren't these the oppressed minorities the left is supposed to stand up for? Oh no, those white people deserve it because according to them the white people shouldn't be living in Africa in the first place.

Ok, then by their own logic the Africans shouldn't be living in Europe either right? Oh no, if you say that you're a racist bigot and they stand for diversity.

The level of dishonesty and self loathing required to take these positions is just mind boggling.