International Netanyahu nominates Trump for Nobel Peace Prize

[lsa]

Two nasty guys that killed only some dozens of people.

Compared to politicians they are almost like murder virgins

 

[GrantB13]

Lol alrighty then.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Also Trump is having ceasefire discussions with Netanyahu in the White House right now.

Trump is having relocation of Palestinians discussions with Netanyahu right now, which is an aspect of Genocide.

Yes, Genocide is a disqualifier. I don't need to hear "Hitler did good things too" arguments.

 

[Siver!]

The venerable Dr Harold Shipman just nominated Dear Leader for the First Aid Award.

Congratulations!

 

[Scheme]

Trump is having relocation of Palestinians discussions with Netanyahu right now, which is an aspect of Genocide.

Yes, Genocide is a disqualifier. I don't need to hear "Hitler did good things too" arguments.

Trump is discussing ceasefire plans, every major news outlet is reporting it as so and that Hamas and Israel are talking because of US-sponsored discussions:
theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/08/qatar-talks-gaza-ceasefire-netanyahu-trump-washington-visit

The new round of indirect talks between Israel and Hamas began on Sunday, after both sides accepted a broad US-sponsored outline of a deal for an initial 60-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the 21-month conflict.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-08/trump-to-meet-netanyahu-again-in-push-for-gaza-ceasefire

Where things stand as Trump presses Netanyahu for Gaza ceasefire: ANALYSIS

The Israeli prime minister held talks Monday evening with President Trump.

abcnews.go.com

Gaza ceasefire can be reached but may take more time, Israeli officials say

Israeli officials said on Tuesday that gaps can be bridged between Israel and Palestinian militant group Hamas at peace talks in Qatar, though it may take more than a few days to reach a deal to free hostages and halt fighting.

www.reuters.com

Multiple news sources specifically saying Trump is pushing for a ceasefire.

You throw around the word "genocide", but what's happening in Gaza is not a genocide. Israel could easily wipe out every Palestinian if they wanted, in a day. The Palestinian population has only grown and continues to grow. I would argue it's closer to an attempted ethnic cleansing (which is still bad). Hamas also still has Israeli hostages, holding hostages after slaughtering them is an act of war, prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, the Rome Statute, etc. Either way, it's irrelevant to the point at hand, Trump is actively seeking a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine, but since you are so blind you wont even accept what every major news source (who openly hate Trump as well) is reporting.

So the one thing you criticize Trump for is something he's actively working on resolving. Maybe you should try appreciating what he is doing for the world, he is already credited as brokering multiple peace deals of multiple wars and conflicts. But no, you are so blinded by hate you somehow convince yourself this is a bad thing.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Trump is discussing ceasefire plans, every major news outlet is reporting it as so and that Hamas and Israel are talking because of US-sponsored discussions:

Multiple news sources specifically saying Trump is pushing for a ceasefire.

Why the fuck would I have to rely on what "major news outlets" are reporting when I can just literally listen to the audio of them talking in which they are openly talking about countries they can send the Palestinians to? It's right on video.

You throw around the word "genocide", but what's happening in Gaza is not a genocide. Israel could easily wipe out every Palestinian if they wanted, in a day. The Palestinian population has only grown and continues to grow. I would argue it's closer to an attempted ethnic cleansing (which is still bad). Hamas also still has Israeli hostages. Either way, it's irrelevant to the point at hand, Trump is actively seeking a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine, but since you are so blind you wont even accept what every major news source (who openly hate Trump as well) is reporting.

You may want to refresh yourself on the definition of "Genocide" as it applies to the Genocide Convention. This absolutely is a genocide. "They could do genocide faster" isn't a valid argument.

The Gaza population has not been growing since the assault on Gaza after October 7th you imbecile.

You haven't done the homework to discuss this topic.

 

[UberHere]

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984

By “The Party” you mean Israel

 

[AmonTobin]

Pros of second(ish) term:

- Helped normalize relations between Arab states and Israel
- Brokered ceasefire in Israel-Iran

"THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEYRE DOINGGGGGG!"

- Attempting to broker ceasefire in Gaza-Israel
- Attempting to broker ceasefire in Russia-Ukraine war

"YOU DIDNT SAY THANK YOOUUUUUUUU!"

 

[Scheme]

Why the fuck would I have to rely on what "major news outlets" are reporting when I can just literally listen to the audio of them talking in which they are openly talking about countries they can send the Palestinians to? It's right on video.

You may want to refresh yourself on the definition of "Genocide" as it applies to the Genocide Convention. This absolutely is a genocide. "They could do genocide faster" isn't a valid argument.

The Gaza population has not been growing since the assault on Gaza after October 7th you imbecile.

You haven't done the homework to discuss this topic.

It's simply not genocide buddy. The fact that you use that word means you don't know what it means. A genocide should see a population in the area that is being killed decrease, not increase. That's what every single genocide in history has had in common: the population of the people are wiped out, not increased.

It's not even that what is going on in Gaza isn't terrible, a breach of human rights, crimes against humanity, etc. It's just not a genocide. You can post emotionally about it all you want, words simply have meanings and using them incorrectly hurts your point to serious people. I'm sure a bunch of leftists who can't even point Palestine out on a map might screech differently; when you are ready to have grown up conversations then you should use words as they mean rather than as you wish they mean simply to make your point.

Trump wants a ceasefire and is pushing for a ceasefire. Again, multiple news outlets have reported that Israel and Hamas are talking about a ceasefire. What the results of their negotiations will be is up to the negotiators. But when you said something idiotic along the lines of "Trump is genociding Gaza", it's simply not true. Trump is actively working on ensuring no more killing of citizens of Gaza occurs. Sorry that it hurts your feelings that the big bad orange man can potentially do good things, but the world isn't black and white like in the superhero movies that your geopolitical world view must come from.

 

[Snubnoze707]

It's simply not genocide buddy. The fact that you use that word means you don't know what it means. A genocide should see a population in the area that is being killed decrease, not increase. That's what every single genocide in history has had in common: the population of the people are wiped out, not increased.

The audacity for you to lecture me on knowing what the word "Genocide" means when you go on to prove you don't know what the fuck it means. Let me help you:

Article II​

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

And the population in Gaza HAS BEEN DECREASING as a result of the complete obliteration of the strip.

It's not even that what is going on in Gaza isn't terrible, a breach of human rights, crimes against humanity, etc. It's just not a genocide. You can post emotionally about it all you want, words simply have meanings and using them incorrectly hurts your point to serious people. I'm sure a bunch of leftists who can't even point Palestine out on a map might screech differently; when you are ready to have grown up conversations then you should use words as they mean rather than as you wish they mean simply to make your point.

I'm not a leftest, and when you actually take some time to study the concept of Genocide then we can have a legitimate conversation, because right now you have no clue about what you are talking about.

Trump wants a ceasefire and is pushing for a ceasefire. Again, multiple news outlets have reported that Israel and Hamas are talking about a ceasefire. What the results of their negotiations will be is up to the negotiators. But when you said something idiotic along the lines of "Trump is genociding Gaza", it's simply not true. Trump is actively working on ensuring no more killing of citizens of Gaza occurs. Sorry that it hurts your feelings that the big bad orange man can potentially do good things, but the world isn't black and white like in the superhero movies that your geopolitical world view must come from.

I VOTED FOR TRUMP. Specifically because I thought he would push back on Netanyahu better than those feckless Democrats, and while he is a fraction better, he's still acting like a complete CUCK to Netanyahu. None of these people are hiding the fact that their ultimate goal is to remove the Palestinians from Gaza and take it for Israel. They are saying it right to your fucking face. A "ceasefire" is meaningless.

 

[Scheme]

The audacity for you to lecture me on knowing what the word "Genocide" means when you go on to prove you don't know what the fuck it means. Let me help you:

Article II​

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

And the population in Gaza HAS BEEN DECREASING as a result of the complete obliteration of the strip.

I'm not a leftest, and when you actually take some time to study the concept of Genocide then we can have a legitimate conversation, because right now you have no clue about what you are talking about.

I VOTED FOR TRUMP. Specifically because I thought he would push back on Netanyahu better than those feckless Democrats, and while he is a fraction better, he's still acting like a complete CUCK to Netanyahu. None of these people are hiding the fact that their ultimate goal is to remove the Palestinians from Gaza and take it for Israel. They are saying it right to your fucking face. A "ceasefire" is meaningless.

There's a difference between killing people in a war and genocide. Again, in every historical genocide to date, the population of that group went down. The population even of the West Bank and Gaza have consistently grown, here's a couple of sources showing the growth in recent years as well: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL?locations=PS, https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/palestine/gaza

And again, Israel has the arms to completely level all of Palestine if they wanted. If they want to genocide the Palestinian people: why aren't they using the tools at their disposal to do so?

They are not being subjected to genocide because they aren't being killed as a group, as evidenced by their population continuing to increase, even in Gaza. Every other genocide in history, the population of the group that has been killed has shrunk, often dramatically so. Explain to me why this is the first 'genocide' of which this is not true?

I don't care if you are left or right wing, I only brought up left-wing screechers because they are the ones that falsely attribute what is going on as a genocide. You are clearly delusional if you think Trump isn't trying to end the killing of people in Gaza while at the exact same time every major news outlet reports he is sponsoring ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas. And again, that was your only critique of Trump's peace mongering, with no comment on all the other wars he has helped end.

It's fine to be emotional at what is happening in Gaza. Attributing false characterizations of what is happening and lying that Trump is sponsoring it while negotiating a ceasefire is simply not.

 

[Snubnoze707]

There's a difference between killing people in a war and genocide.

Your first sentence is complete nonsense. The rules of Genocide apply during war. I'm not even going to bother reading the rest. You've demonstrated to have no clue about the topic.

 

[Scheme]

Your first sentence is complete nonsense. The rules of Genocide apply during war. I'm not even going to bother reading the rest. You've demonstrated to have no clue about the topic.

Sad, you let emotions get in the way of logic. One last time, how come in every other recognized genocide, the population of the people being killed went down? And again, you are avoiding the actual topic at hand. I already recognized that what is happening in Gaza is a crime against humanity, probably why Trump is negotiating a ceasefire. I guess I have to use the magic word for you to address the actual topic at hand?

 

[Snubnoze707]

Sad, you let emotions get in the way of logic. One last time, how come in every other recognized genocide, the population of the people being killed went down? And again, you are avoiding the actual topic at hand. I already recognized that what is happening in Gaza is a crime against humanity, probably why Trump is negotiating a ceasefire. I guess I have to use the magic word for you to address the actual topic at hand?

Population level is not part of the Genocide Convention. No where is that listed as a criteria, but regardless, the population level in Gaza HAS DECREASED since the response to Oct 7th. It's not fucking growing, do you seriously believe that? Before this recent campaign, the population level increase is attributed to Palestinians trying to crank out kids to replace the deceased adults, which is why over 50% of the population is children.

You talk about "Israel COULD level Gaza".... NEWSFLASH.... They HAVE leveled Gaza. Trump is wining and dining someone who is committing crimes against humanity as you put it (really Genocide). Just like Genocide Joe, he could end this real fast by stopping to continually arm and fund Israel, Just like he said he would with Ukraine before completely flip flopping on that campaign promise. Trump is using zero leverage, in fact it looks like leverage is being used on him. Complete fraud.

 

[Scheme]

Population level is not part of the Genocide Convention. No where is that listed as a criteria, but regardless, the population level in Gaza HAS DECREASED since the response to Oct 7th. It's not fucking growing, do you seriously believe that? Before this recent campaign, the population level increase is attributed to Palestinians trying to crank out kids to replace the deceased adults, which is why over 50% of the population is children.

You talk about "Israel COULD level Gaza".... NEWSFLASH.... They HAVE leveled Gaza. Trump is wining and dining someone who is committing crimes against humanity as you put it (really Genocide). Just like Genocide Joe, he could end this real fast by stopping to continually arm and fund Israel, Just like he said he would with Ukraine before completely flip flopping on that campaign promise. Trump is using zero leverage, in fact it looks like leverage is being used on him. Complete fraud.

The sources I posted show the population of Gaza, Gaza and Westbank and all of Palestine's populations increasing, respectively.

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

The definition you posted above says there needs to be intent to destroy. If you are saying Israel is intent on destroying Gaza, why haven't they done so? Again, they have every capability to do so, but somehow the Palestinians in Gaza's population has been increasing over time, as per my sources above. Something simply doesn't add up in your list of assumptions, are the Israelis just so bad at genocide that they can't actually do so? Is that what you are positing? It flies in the face of logic, but I guess who needs logic when you have emotions! And again, it's not like I am not saying that Israel isn't guilty of crimes against humanity or anything. But for some reason you are so hung up about this one word that you are using incorrectly.

Trump is hosting ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas to end the killing in Gaza. Sorry if that makes you unnecessarily emotional. The fact that you are saying he is not goes against all news reporting. This seems to be a topic you care about so why not give credit to the one man actively trying to end the killing of the people in Gaza, especially given he seems to be the only person with influence that is willing to do so.

And again, you completely ignore all the other wars that he's ended when you criticize him. I wonder why that is?

 

[Scott Stapp]

i nominate Bibi for the USS Liberty Memorial Coin.

 

[Snubnoze707]

The sources I posted show the population of Gaza, Gaza and Westbank and all of Palestine's populations increasing, respectively.

And none of those numbers have any relevancy to today because they are based on projections PRIOR to Israel LEVELING Gaza.

The definition you posted above says there needs to be intent to destroy. If you are saying Israel is intent on destroying Gaza, why haven't they done so?

You didn't fucking read it, read it again. Intent to destroy.... "in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"..... not the physical location of Gaza, which they actually have already done as well. There is quote after quote after quote proving the intent in this context.

Again, they have every capability to do so, but somehow the Palestinians in Gaza's population has been increasing over time, as per my sources above.

Your source is based on projections that were BEFORE Israel leveled Gaza.

Something simply doesn't add up in your list of assumptions, are the Israelis just so bad at genocide that they can't actually do so? Is that what you are positing? It flies in the face of logic, but I guess who needs logic when you have emotions!

No, they are being completely effective at it. What is ineffective is your ability to grasp the concept of "Genocide"........

Trump is hosting ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas to end the killing in Gaza. Sorry if that makes you unnecessarily emotional. The fact that you are saying he is not goes against all news reporting. This seems to be a topic you care about so why not give credit to the one man actively trying to end the killing of the people in Gaza, especially given he seems to be the only person with influence that is willing to do so.

Again, a "ceasefire" is meaningless when the ultimate goal THAT THEY DISCUSSED ON VIDEO is removing the Palestinians from Gaza and shipping them to another country. That is part of GENOCIDE.

And again, you completely ignore all the other wars that he's ended when you criticize him. I wonder why that is?

I already explained why.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Netanyahu vows to combat what he calls ‘vilification against Israel’ online​

On Capitol Hill, Israeli PM says ‘demonization’ led to drop in support for Israel among US voters, especially Democrats

Robert Tait in Washington

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On Capitol Hill, Israeli PM says ‘demonization’ led to drop in support for Israel among US voters, especially Democrats

Robert Tait in Washington
Tue 8 Jul 2025 20.52 BST
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Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday that he’s vowed to combat an orchestrated social media campaign of “vilification and demonization” that he says is responsible for a drop in support for Israel among US voters, especially Democrats.

“I think there’s been a concerted effort to spread vilification and demonization against Israel on social media,” the Israeli prime minister told journalists on Capitol Hill after being asked to respond to opinion polls showing a move away from the historic trend of strong backing for Israel.

“It’s directed, it’s funded. It is malignant. We intend to fight it, because nothing defeats lies like the truth, and we shall spread the truth for everyone to see once people are exposed to the facts, we win hands down. That’s what we intend to do in the coming months and years.”

Netanyahu’s comments came during a visit to Congress, where he met the Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, Mike Johnson.

They also followed the recent victory of Zohran Mamdani in the Democratic primary race for the mayor of New York, which commentators believe was partly fueled by the candidate’s vocal support for Palestinian rights and criticism of Israel’s military offensive in Gaza.

A range of surveys have shows a marked decline in support for Israel among Democratic-leaning voters amid rising disquiet about the impact of the war in the now devastated coastal territory. The ongoing war has killed about 60,000 people – most of them Palestinians – and has seen much of the population threatened with starvation.

A Gallup poll in March showed less than half of the US public sympathized with Israel’s position, the lowest figure recorded since the organization started taking surveys on the issue. Among Democrat voters, 38% sympathize with the Palestinians over the Israelis, a reversal of a 2013 Gallup survey, which saw Democrats sympathizing with Israelis by a margin of 36%.

Other polls have shown similar trends, raising concerns for the future of the traditional strong bipartisan US support for Israel.

The Israeli leader said his government had accepted a proposal from Qatari mediators for a fresh ceasefire with Hamas, saying it matched what had been proposed by Steve Witkoff, Donald Trump’s Middle East envoy.

Witkoff, speaking at a cabinet meeting earlier on Tuesday, had spelled out the terms of a proposed deal to broker a 60-day ceasefire he hoped would be in place by the end of the week, saying it would involve the release of Israeli hostages.

“Ten live hostages will be released, nine deceased will be released,” Witkoff said. “We’re meeting at the president’s direction with all the hostage families to let them know, and we think that this will lead to a lasting peace.”

Netanyahu said: “We accepted a proposal that came from the mediators. It’s a good proposal. It matches Steve Witkoff’s original idea and we think that we’ve gotten closer to it, and I hope we can cross the line.”

He also said he expected to meet the US president again during his current visit, his third to Washington since Trump was inaugurated in January. The two met at the White House on Monday evening, when Netanyahu presented Trump with a letter nominating him for a Nobel peace prize.

Netanyahu said the the military coordination with Washington during Israel’s recent 12-day war with Iran, which resulted in repeated strikes on Tehran’s nuclear facilities, was unprecedented.

“In the entire 77 years of Israeli history, there has never been the degree of coordination of cooperation and trust between America and Israel as we have today,” he said. “And I credit President Trump with this extraordinary achievement.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/08/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-gaza

- Right now Trump is doing to Bibi what Monica Levinski did to Clinton.

 

[SandisLL]

I had posted in summer or spring 2024 th that U.S will support Israel and both parties, while reps more.
I had posted that reps will increase defense budget.
It had happened. Both things in real life btw.

 

[Scheme]

And none of those numbers have any relevancy to today because they are based on projections PRIOR to Israel LEVELING Gaza.

You didn't fucking read it, read it again. Intent to destroy.... "in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"..... not the physical location of Gaza, which they actually have already done as well. There is quote after quote after quote proving the intent in this context.

Your source is based on projections that were BEFORE Israel leveled Gaza.

No, they are being completely effective at it. What is ineffective is your ability to grasp the concept of "Genocide"........

Again, a "ceasefire" is meaningless when the ultimate goal THAT THEY DISCUSSED ON VIDEO is removing the Palestinians from Gaza and shipping them to another country. That is part of GENOCIDE.

I already explained why.

The numbers are from the latest year of available data, 2024, from multiple reputable third party sources (UN, Eurostat). The number you are referencing (the 6% population drop) is from the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (a biased source).

Again, they haven't done so. Their population as per unbiased sources have only increased.

Israel started their campaign in 2023 after October 7th. I don't see why the 2024 population numbers wouldn't reflect a decrease in population if that were the case.

It's not a part of genocide unless it's done with the intent to destroy the population. You've again failed to understand the very definition of genocide you've quoted.

You didn't, you incorrectly said that he was performing a genocide of Palestinians while at this very moment he is forcing Israel to negotiate with Hamas. You either made a mistake or lied about it, and then used that a pretense to ignore every other war he's actually helped stop. That's superhero movie thinking that has plagued most political discussion these days, where everyone has to be either good or evil. But in this case there isn't even really evil because Trump is the one brokering peace between Israel and Gaza in the first place.