Deadline for Tom

[Captain Herb]

What would be the ideal waiting period for Aspinall now?

In my opinion, 3 months to have a contract signed and 6 months for unification (with a guaranteed reserve fighter).

If Jones refuses within 3 months, the title will be stripped.

If he withdraws from the fight twice, the title will also be stripped.

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If Jones doesn't have the fight signed in 3 months from the Stipe fight, he needs to be stripped

 

[don't ask]

Jon will delay and delay and delay until Tom is stripped of the belt, then he'll fight Arlovski.

 

[BowserJr]

Perhaps you’re a bozo that thinks everyone views things the way you do and when that theory fails you attempt to tell them how they should view them instead of doing what my name implies and minding your fucking business. Isn’t that what got you in this situation? Lying about how important a fighter is that has never headlined a PPV nor garnered much attention outside of Jones nutsack . When you could have been minding yours

Why are you so angry?

I've stated facts. Jones said he'd rather vacate than fight Tom. (Thats egregious ducking)

And posed questions. If he has nothing to prove why still fight?

That's all... calm down my dude

 

[DFresh1]

What the hell would a win over a dude that has not headlined a successful PPV do for Jones other than another payday? You are clearly more delusional than Jones. You act like you are some sleuth. The man says openly I DONT WANT THE FUCKING FIGHT BECAUSE HE IS A DANGEROUS NOBODY THAT DOESNT HELP MY LEGACY BUT IF THEY PAY ME RIGHT I’LL FIGHT. Only in the mind of a clown is this terror of a fight. Jones hasn’t even been offered the fight so how the fuck have you came to the conclusion a fighter is scared of a fight NEVER OFFERED

Calm down, its clear you love Jones and believe everything he says. We don't dispute that.

As champion, his "fear" is not unique. Nobody wants to lose - that's not some rationale that Jones invented. What you're talking about is Jones not wanting to fight up and comers like Gus, Dominick and Tom. But, his job as the CHAMP of the division is to fight the up and comers. According to the rules, he has no choice, the interim belt is there so he should be unifying it. Feel free to blame the UFC for setting that up, but set it up they did. So he has NO CHOICE in the matter and rightfully should be stripped if he won't do it.

You can talk about how "he deserves" respect for all he's done and that's fine. But it still doesn't override the title situation as it stands. Paying him special money doesn't even make any sense - in theory he should get extra money to fight OUTSIDE his division as a special attraction; fighting the next guy in line does not deserve extra money.

And Jones cheated to win many of his fights and pulses for life. So he's special in that he got away with it as long as he did on top of whatever accolades he's achieved otherwise.

 

[Mind Mine]

You know MMA is a global sport, and not just American, right? And yes, there is a reason the fight isn't being made, and it's pretty fucking simple... it's Jon. No other reason. Who else is holding it up?

How is me believing that Tom is a legitimate title opponent for Jon being narcissistic? And it's only a tiny segment that want to see the UFC HW titles unified? That's how you're reading the room?

Tom wants the fight, the UFC would LOVE the fight, real MMA fans (except Jon's) want the fight, pro-UFC shill Sherbronis want the fight, fans who give a shit about rankings and integrity want the fight, the media and journalists want the fight... everyone wants the fight. Except for Jon.

So yes, it is a huge deal when the reigning HW champ and (arguably) the GOAT makes obvious excuses to NOT fight one particular opponent. Tom has alpha'd the fuck out of your boy so badly Jones doesn't even want him in the same building as him and he'll shut down reporters asking about him. Jon's been owned, lol.



Of course you are not addressing it, you're conveniently ignoring it because it fucks up your narrative. You're pretty good at missing the obvious even when it's staring you in the face.



Saint Jon pricing himself out by asking for a ridiculous sum he knows (in advance) the UFC will never agree to... also makes it highly, highly probable there is a better reason the fight has not been made already than "It's just because Tom's not a name-brand!". Wouldn't you agree?

The way Jon is acting in the public eye, that isn't champ material. That's chump material.

And since you're that oblivious to Aspinall, he won his Interim title at UFC 295 at MSG. At the very same event Jon pulled out of a month out, and Stipe would not face Pav (who was the backup). Tom stepped in on short notice, but the UFC elevated Alex vs. Jiri to the main event. UFC 295 was a banging main card, and Tom even successfully defended his interim title three months before Jon defending his against Sleepy.

How many times should Tom successfully defend his Interim title before you think he becomes worthy enough and deserves a shot at Jon's HW title?



You're angry typing now, lol. Doofus (not dufus), bozo, calling others mental... why is always a character attack and not discussing the points made?

This is MMA, not a fucking popularity contest. We get it. You're some assclown who values clicks, views, likes and buyrates over the fights. Good for you. The real MMA fans are here for the fights, the fighters, the rankings and the belts, which you apparently don't give a shit about.

If you did, you wouldn't be sitting here white-knighting some prima donna who has spent years ducking any real challenge to him.

I likely read about a single sentence. You seem very triggered and I have no inclination to address each one of you delusional cocksuckers that believe a man that has not headlined a successful fucking PPV is a huge deal to a fighter like Jones legacy. If that troubles you then you struggle with reality and you should seek therapy

 

[Mind Mine]

Why are you so angry?

I've stated facts. Jones said he'd rather vacate than fight Tom. (Thats egregious ducking)

And posed questions. If he has nothing to prove why still fight?

That's all... calm down my dude

Jones is under ZERO obligation to remain a HW, remain fighting, fight Aspinall, not a fucking thing. If he doesn’t view a man that has never headlined a decent PPV off his own namesake a fighter worth the risk combined with money he can leave. Not duck but say Im good. You dudes are bonafide clowns. He isn’t any fucking fighter. He is the longest reigning golden era champion and when he says he’s done its just fucking that. There is zero shock the UFC hasn’t made the fight yet. They brought him damn near out of retirement because HIS NAMESAKE is the fucking reason HW is hot right now. Do you think anyone outside of your tiny circle of hardcores is clamoring to see any fight other than Jones? No bozo they are not. This isn’t my opinion it’s the cold hard FACT

 

[Mind Mine]

Calm down, its clear you love Jones and believe everything he says. We don't dispute that.

As champion, his "fear" is not unique. Nobody wants to lose - that's not some rationale that Jones invented. What you're talking about is Jones not wanting to fight up and comers like Gus, Dominick and Tom. But, his job as the CHAMP of the division is to fight the up and comers. According to the rules, he has no choice, the interim belt is there so he should be unifying it. Feel free to blame the UFC for setting that up, but set it up they did. So he has NO CHOICE in the matter and rightfully should be stripped if he won't do it.

You can talk about how "he deserves" respect for all he's done and that's fine. But it still doesn't override the title situation as it stands. Paying him special money doesn't even make any sense - in theory he should get extra money to fight OUTSIDE his division as a special attraction; fighting the next guy in line does not deserve extra money.

And Jones cheated to win many of his fights and pulses for life. So he's special in that he got away with it as long as he did on top of whatever accolades he's achieved otherwise.

I read clear you love Jones and realized what fucking clown I was talking to immediately so here you go bozo. I love REALITY which is something you distort due to your aching clown vaginal chops. If in Jones shoes there wouldn’t be a fucking non famous fighter that couldn’t put asses in seats I wanted to fight towards the end. If you struggle in your poor concept of reality that Tom has zero shown ability to put asses in seats what I wanted you to do is take your clown ass to a circus put on your war paint and big red shoes and dance a jig bozo. Just keep the pie throwing between yourself and the other fucking clowns

 

[BowserJr]

Jones is under ZERO obligation to remain a HW, remain fighting, fight Aspinall, not a fucking thing. If he doesn’t view a man that has never headlined a decent PPV off his own namesake a fighter worth the risk combined with money he can leave

I guess Shogun should've done that to Jones... but that's not what keeps us gans interested. We want to see the best match ups. That's what makes this entertaining.

He isn’t any fucking fighter

Youre right Jon is not a fighters. Hes a duck. He did say this after all
" I am prepared to vacate the heavyweight championship"
""I don't want to fight dangerous up-and-comers anymore"
'I don't want to fight this guy"

Those are direct quotes from Jon BTW lol

But sure ok, he's doesn't want to fight dangerous opponents but "he's not ducking"

He is the longest reigning golden era champion and when he says he’s done its just fucking that.

Nope the golden era was coming to a close when he rose to the top. All the best guys beat the primes out of each other and he picked up the peices.... seethe about it

And if he is done then retire. Enough with the gas lighting that he's fighting for legacy. Fighting for legacy is about facing the toughest challenges not cherry picking favorable match ups. That's a fact.

They brought him damn near out of retirement because HIS NAMESAKE is the fucking reason HW is hot right now

He's actually the reason HW is stagnating even worse. He's a paper champ that won't defend the interim champ. It makes the belt completely legitimate lol

Do you think anyone outside of your tiny circle of hardcores is clamoring to see any fight other than Jones? No bozo they are not. This isn’t my opinion it’s the cold hard FACT

Actually it's conjecture sweetie

And no casuals don't even care to watch ufc. They'll watch highlights online and believe whatever is spoon fed to them cuz they're not really interested... like what you do

 

[Mind Mine]

I guess Shogun should've done that to Jones... but that's not what keeps us gans interested. We want to see the best match ups. That's what makes this entertaining.
Youre right Jon is not a fighters. Hes a duck. He did say this after all
" I am prepared to vacate the heavyweight championship"
""I don't want to fight dangerous up-and-comers anymore"
'I don't want to fight this guy"

Those are direct quotes from Jon BTW lol

But sure ok, he's doesn't want to fight dangerous opponents but "he's not ducking"



Nope the golden era was coming to a close when he rose to the top. All the best guys beat the primes out of each other and he picked up the peices.... seethe about it

And if he is done then retire. Enough with the gas lighting that he's fighting for legacy. Fighting for legacy is about facing the toughest challenges not cherry picking favorable match ups. That's a fact.


He's actually the reason HW is stagnating even worse. He's a paper champ that won't defend the interim champ. It makes the belt completely legitimate lol


Actually it's conjecture sweetie

And no casuals don't even care to watch ufc. They'll watch highlights online and believe whatever is spoon fed to them cuz they're not really interested... like what you do

My child I don’t give a fuck. Tom has not headlined a successful PPV and Jones had several by the time he fought Shogun. You cannot even get your narrative straight. At this point its fuck your opinion. The floor is yours get it out your feelings and then leave me smooth alone on the matter

 

[Mind Mine]

I guess Shogun should've done that to Jones... but that's not what keeps us gans interested. We want to see the best match ups. That's what makes this entertaining.
Youre right Jon is not a fighters. Hes a duck. He did say this after all
" I am prepared to vacate the heavyweight championship"
""I don't want to fight dangerous up-and-comers anymore"
'I don't want to fight this guy"

Those are direct quotes from Jon BTW lol

But sure ok, he's doesn't want to fight dangerous opponents but "he's not ducking"



Nope the golden era was coming to a close when he rose to the top. All the best guys beat the primes out of each other and he picked up the peices.... seethe about it

And if he is done then retire. Enough with the gas lighting that he's fighting for legacy. Fighting for legacy is about facing the toughest challenges not cherry picking favorable match ups. That's a fact.


He's actually the reason HW is stagnating even worse. He's a paper champ that won't defend the interim champ. It makes the belt completely legitimate lol


Actually it's conjecture sweetie

And no casuals don't even care to watch ufc. They'll watch highlights online and believe whatever is spoon fed to them cuz they're not really interested... like what you do

Let this last one be a real zinger champ. Whatever you say you win in your head. On the way out can you link me to Aspinall’s successful PPV he headlined I seemed to miss that in all of the other bullshit you typed

 

[BowserJr]

My child I don’t give a fuck

Except the fact that you're so emotional betrays you and proves that you do.

Tom has not headlined a successful PPV and Jones had several by the time he fought Shogun

Why do you give a fuck about this so much? Why don't you want JBJ to show his skill against the toughest challenges?

Also, No LOL. Jones headlined 1 free card before Shogun. Get your facts straight.

At this point its fuck your opinion.

Awe how adorable... I'm so sawee sweet heart. I didn't mean to hurt you.

You can cry on my shoulder if you like

 

[BowserJr]

Let this last one be a real zinger champ. Whatever you say you win in your head. On the way out can you link me to Aspinall’s successful PPV he headlined I seemed to miss that in all of the other bullshit you typed

You bring up a meaningless factoid that is irrelevant and pointless... good job dude. You really showed me!

 

[fedorthegoat777]

If Tom is waiting for Jon, he better be prepared to sit out for a year or two.

Lol @ 3 months.

Join holds the belt for a year or two then retires. If he does agree to fight Tom, it is going to be closer to next year.

 

[Clark Rogers]

Jones is touted as the GOAT and this is how he proves it.

He's already proven the GOAT thing, unless you veto his inclusion due to his test history.

Tom might add to that, but doesn't prove anything.

I don't think losing to Tom even does that much to his legacy at this point, at least to those that aren't lead strictly by hate. He's at that age where he's going to lose at some point, they ALL do.

 

[FreedomCricket]

The deadline should've been new years. We could sign it for IFW.

I sure as hell don't want to wait until November for MSG again.

 

[HereForTheMemes]

My child I don’t give a fuck. Tom has not headlined a successful PPV and Jones had several by the time he fought Shogun. You cannot even get your narrative straight. At this point its fuck your opinion. The floor is yours get it out your feelings and then leave me smooth alone on the matter

Yo, I'm quite the lurker, but just felt obligated to let you know that you're arguing so dedicatedly and saying Jones had headlined multiple successful PPVs before shogun?

You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to MMA it seems especially your boo thang JJ because his first PPV headliner was actually AGAINST shogun not several before like you said.

I'm not sure why you wanna attack so many people for being wrong when you're either lying or ignorant lmao

 

[Gamer2k4]

Don't think Jon ever had the intention of fighting young prime elite HWs that were well rounded. That's why he picked Gane, a guy who doesn't really have killshot power and can't wrestle. Same with Pereira for that matter, Jones knows when he gets it to the ground, it's over.

Which "young prime elite HWs that were well rounded" are you thinking of here? I bet I could count on one hand how many heavyweights fit that description. There might not even be any.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

The only way is to offer Jon some

He'd probably sign immediately

 

[Epsteins Guard]

Which "young prime elite HWs that were well rounded" are you thinking of here? I bet I could count on one hand how many heavyweights fit that description. There might not even be any.

Well, there's not many cause UFC HW is a fucking ghostland now. But basically anybody that has a ground game/TD defense and KO power.

 

[Streeter]

He can fight a much tougher fight in Apunall who has marginal Name. Or fight the biggest name in mma an its an easier fight . Drop down to 205 n tw capture the title you rulled then retire as Chsmp beating the biggest name in sport - un questioned GOAT Of goats.in MMA n likely noone ever touches legend.

I know which about anyone on here would do admit ot or not.

Perrria is the fight an at 205 not HW.