Deadline for Tom

[goOb]

If I were Tom, I wouldn’t sit out longer than 350 days.

 

[Mind Mine]

If you don't think a win over Tom does anything for Jon's legacy, then you know as little as Jon does.

Jon is 100% worried about fighting Tom, and you know it bro. Jon's not afraid to fight and lose because of all this lack of motivation nonsense, he's scared to take a fight where the deck isn't stacked in his favour. Jon struggles a lot more and looks human when he's fighting opponents that match up with him physically. But hey, if believing whatever Jon says is true helps you sleep better at night, go for it.

Aspinall doesn't have to do a single thing now. His next fight will be for the undisputed HW title, whether it is against Jon or someone else.

What the hell would a win over a dude that has not headlined a successful PPV do for Jones other than another payday? You are clearly more delusional than Jones. You act like you are some sleuth. The man says openly I DONT WANT THE FUCKING FIGHT BECAUSE HE IS A DANGEROUS NOBODY THAT DOESNT HELP MY LEGACY BUT IF THEY PAY ME RIGHT I’LL FIGHT. Only in the mind of a clown is this terror of a fight. Jones hasn’t even been offered the fight so how the fuck have you came to the conclusion a fighter is scared of a fight NEVER OFFERED

 

[PeterGriffin]

What the hell would a win over a dude that has not headlined a successful PPV do for Jones other than another payday? You are clearly more delusional than Jones. You act like you are some sleuth. The man says openly I DONT WANT THE FUCKING FIGHT BECAUSE HE IS A DANGEROUS NOBODY THAT DOESNT HELP MY LEGACY BUT IF THEY PAY ME RIGHT I’LL FIGHT. Only in the mind of a clown is this terror of a fight. Jones hasn’t even been offered the fight so how the fuck have you came to the conclusion a fighter is scared of a fight NEVER OFFERED

Please tell me when has Jones ever fought a well-rounded younger, faster, and bigger fighter than he was? Tom checks every box that people have used as arguments for easily over a decade against claims that Jon is the GOAT.

"Jon fought washed up vets"
"Jon fought blown up MW's"
"Jon cherry-picked his opponents"
"Jon needs help from needles and the ref"

If Jon beat a younger, hungry UFC HW champion fighter who was the same size as Jon (while in his prime)... without pissing a hole through the bottom of the cup... it would easily be worth more than any other win in his fucking career. You really don't understand that? Jon Jones' real fans should WANT this fight just as badly as everyone else, not sit there regurgitating his weak excuses.

Jon is 2-0 at HW in the UFC over tailor-made opponents. Tom is the defending Interim champion, having gone 8-1 in the UFC, with 8 finishes and 6 of the night bonuses and beaten half of the top-10 HW's. Now, you and Jon can sit there and pretend Tom's just some scrub and a worthless name, but the reality is he is far more accomplished than Jon at 265lbs.

The UFC made Tom Aspinall a champion. I know you might find this concept absurd, but it's a champion's job to defend the belt, not sell the fight. That's the organization's job, they're the promoter. If Jon doesn't want to unify or defend, he can lose the belt and fight whoever the fuck whenever he wants. If he wants to keep gold around the waist, he has to fight Tom.

And since you seem to be in the know... who told you that Jon hasn't officially received an offer yet? Just sliding in his DM's? Or are you counting on Jon Jones telling the truth? I am sure we would all love to be as certain as you are.

 

[Mind Mine]

Please tell me when has Jones ever fought a well-rounded younger, faster, and bigger fighter than he was? Tom checks every box that people have used as arguments for easily over a decade against claims that Jon is the GOAT.

"Jon fought washed up vets"
"Jon fought blown up MW's"
"Jon cherry-picked his opponents"
"Jon needs help from needles and the ref"

If Jon beat a younger, hungry UFC HW champion fighter who was the same size as Jon (while in his prime)... without pissing a hole through the bottom of the cup... it would easily be worth more than any other win in his fucking career. You really don't understand that? Jon Jones' real fans should WANT this fight just as badly as everyone else, not sit there regurgitating his weak excuses.

Jon is 2-0 at HW in the UFC over tailor-made opponents. Tom is the defending Interim champion, having gone 8-1 in the UFC, with 8 finishes and 6 of the night bonuses and beaten half of the top-10 HW's. Now, you and Jon can sit there and pretend Tom's just some scrub and a worthless name, but the reality is he is far more accomplished than Jon at 265lbs.

The UFC made Tom Aspinall a champion. I know you might find this concept absurd, but it's a champion's job to defend the belt, not sell the fight. That's the organization's job, they're the promoter. If Jon doesn't want to unify or defend, he can lose the belt and fight whoever the fuck whenever he wants. If he wants to keep gold around the waist, he has to fight Tom.

And since you seem to be in the know... who told you that Jon hasn't officially received an offer yet? Just sliding in his DM's? Or are you counting on Jon Jones telling the truth? I am sure we would all love to be as certain as you are.

You do understand you in all of your narcissism in thinking Tom is this and that and your opinion is this and that represent a tiny segment of the fans that give a shit about Aspinall? There is a reason friend. He is from a country not particularly huge on mma, American fans some know him most only know he is next in line to fight Jones, also friend HE NEVER HEADLINED A SOLID FUCKING PPV. Again friend you in your narcissism think this is a huge deal for the last fighter remaining from the golden era on the roster and he’s shaking in his boots. Personally unless they were paying a ton I would probably push the issue. There is a reason they haven’t made the fight and if you’re not a fucking dufus you can easily ascertain Jones is a huge deal that America and the entire sport of mma knows and Aspinall is not. Once you come to grips with thise facts we can have a civilized discussion but you ignoring them and approaching me rather aggressively about a month old statement is starting to make me look at you a certain way. Like the leave me smooth alone way

 

[MigitAs]

It’s gonna go down the same way the Ngannou negotiations went.

Or maybe they offer him 20 mill and he takes it.

 

[Mind Mine]

Please tell me when has Jones ever fought a well-rounded younger, faster, and bigger fighter than he was? Tom checks every box that people have used as arguments for easily over a decade against claims that Jon is the GOAT.

"Jon fought washed up vets"
"Jon fought blown up MW's"
"Jon cherry-picked his opponents"
"Jon needs help from needles and the ref"

If Jon beat a younger, hungry UFC HW champion fighter who was the same size as Jon (while in his prime)... without pissing a hole through the bottom of the cup... it would easily be worth more than any other win in his fucking career. You really don't understand that? Jon Jones' real fans should WANT this fight just as badly as everyone else, not sit there regurgitating his weak excuses.

Jon is 2-0 at HW in the UFC over tailor-made opponents. Tom is the defending Interim champion, having gone 8-1 in the UFC, with 8 finishes and 6 of the night bonuses and beaten half of the top-10 HW's. Now, you and Jon can sit there and pretend Tom's just some scrub and a worthless name, but the reality is he is far more accomplished than Jon at 265lbs.

The UFC made Tom Aspinall a champion. I know you might find this concept absurd, but it's a champion's job to defend the belt, not sell the fight. That's the organization's job, they're the promoter. If Jon doesn't want to unify or defend, he can lose the belt and fight whoever the fuck whenever he wants. If he wants to keep gold around the waist, he has to fight Tom.

And since you seem to be in the know... who told you that Jon hasn't officially received an offer yet? Just sliding in his DM's? Or are you counting on Jon Jones telling the truth? I am sure we would all love to be as certain as you are.

I would also address the fact you’re coming off kind of a clown trying to push a narrative to me about Tom’s skillset which I’m not addressing at all. Go argue with someone else about that. You seem thirsty to debate that. I’m not him my son. I’m telling you the undeniable reason tge fight has not been made and for some reason it makes your snatch ache.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Jon will try to sit him out as long as he possibly can wants to try to get him a bit rusty.

 

[BowserJr]

I doubt Jones takes the Aspinall fight.

It'll just end up being this thing where he keeps making more and more demands and then he'll throw a hissy fit and retire or fight Pereira.

Don't think Jon ever had the intention of fighting young prime elite HWs that were well rounded. That's why he picked Gane, a guy who doesn't really have killshot power and can't wrestle. Same with Pereira for that matter, Jones knows when he gets it to the ground, it's over.

Yup that's exactly it but don't let Jones fans here you

 

[BowserJr]

What the hell would a win over a dude that has not headlined a successful PPV do for Jones other than another payday? You are clearly more delusional than Jones. You act like you are some sleuth. The man says openly I DONT WANT THE FUCKING FIGHT BECAUSE HE IS A DANGEROUS NOBODY THAT DOESNT HELP MY LEGACY BUT IF THEY PAY ME RIGHT I’LL FIGHT. Only in the mind of a clown is this terror of a fight. Jones hasn’t even been offered the fight so how the fuck have you came to the conclusion a fighter is scared of a fight NEVER OFFERED

Wow dude. Of course this fight is huge for his legacy. He's never faced a guyvwoth this skillset size and speed. Jones is touted as the GOAT and this is how he proves it.

If he feels he has nothing to prove why keep fighting at all... oh yeah for a big pay day.

No one wants to see him fight another 1D fighter from a smaller weight class.

Tom is THE fight and he knows it which is why he's asking for so much money.

As far as him ducking he already said he'd rather vacate than fight Tom. That's ducking point blank

 

[Mind Mine]

Wow dude. Of course this fight is huge for his legacy. He's never faced a guyvwoth this skillset size and speed. Jones is touted as the GOAT and this is how he proves it.

If he feels he has nothing to prove why keep fighting at all... oh yeah for a big pay day.

No one wants to see him fight another 1D fighter from a smaller weight class.

Tom is THE fight and he knows it which is why he's asking for so much money.

As far as him ducking he already said he'd rather vacate than fight Tom. That's ducking point blank

No dude you’re lost in the moment it’s not important to Jones overall legacy and half the mma fanbase is kinda meh about Aspinall. If that weren’t the fucking case the fight would have been made. If there is a shred of lie to what I spoke point out a successful Aspinall PPV ever or kinda blow your own horn to someone else as you sound truly mental. Approximately 95% of the fanbase has him as greatest outside of sherdog Swaying the remaining doubters is absolutely not as important as you portray

 

[Mind Mine]

Wow dude. Of course this fight is huge for his legacy. He's never faced a guyvwoth this skillset size and speed. Jones is touted as the GOAT and this is how he proves it.

If he feels he has nothing to prove why keep fighting at all... oh yeah for a big pay day.

No one wants to see him fight another 1D fighter from a smaller weight class.

Tom is THE fight and he knows it which is why he's asking for so much money.

As far as him ducking he already said he'd rather vacate than fight Tom. That's ducking point blank

You do understand this is sports entertainment? You would be absolutely lost in interpretation to think for a second the UFC wants a guy that can’t sell a PPV beating a mega star. While competing against PFL. Are you serious?

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

You do understand this is sports entertainment? You would be absolutely lost in interpretation to think for a second the UFC wants a guy that can’t sell a PPV beating a mega star. While competing against PFL. Are you serious?

Maybe you should be more entertained by sports

 

[Mind Mine]

Wow dude. Of course this fight is huge for his legacy. He's never faced a guyvwoth this skillset size and speed. Jones is touted as the GOAT and this is how he proves it.

If he feels he has nothing to prove why keep fighting at all... oh yeah for a big pay day.

No one wants to see him fight another 1D fighter from a smaller weight class.

Tom is THE fight and he knows it which is why he's asking for so much money.

As far as him ducking he already said he'd rather vacate than fight Tom. That's ducking point blank

Maybe you should be more entertained by sports

Perhaps you’re a bozo that thinks everyone views things the way you do and when that theory fails you attempt to tell them how they should view them instead of doing what my name implies and minding your fucking business. Isn’t that what got you in this situation? Lying about how important a fighter is that has never headlined a PPV nor garnered much attention outside of Jones nutsack . When you could have been minding yours

 

[Luthien]

B side dances to whatever tune that the A side plays Dance for Daddy

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Bruh can you please stop this narrative. After so many years you don’t get it. Jones fights blow when he fights dudes with no legacy. OSP, Smith, Gus, Reyes. All no legacy fighters. He hates that shit and always has. Say what you say about the man he isn’t afraid of skill it’s losing with no motivation to a dude that doesn’t improve his legacy. He admitted it himself but you dudes hate him so bad you come with insane attacks of the baddest skillset we have seen being afraid of certain skillsets. Even when the evidence is under your nose and the man admitted it. For the love of God can you educate at least one other person so that repeated false narrative that goes on between every Jones fight ceases and the real reason is addressed? Gracias

If he can’t find motivation and “legacy” from fighting the best HW there is today, that’s on him and he needs to be stripped. What a bunch of stupid gibberish and cope

 

[snugglecakes]

casual fans don't know the fuck Jon jones is which should cancel out and put this whole "legacy vs a no name" narrative to bed .. but that would make too much sense. It wouldnt make much difference for his legacy other than to true fans at this point win wise whether he wins against Tom or Joe shmoe. It's still a niche sport with the common folk being clueless as to who are the champs and things of that nature. The only aspect of Jon's legacy there is to protect is wins and loses and Jon just wants another easy win. There is nothing else to it. You're lying to yourself if you think a casual knows who Stipe is but they dont know who Tom is. The likelihood is they dont know who the fuck jon, tom, or stipe is... so he may as well fight the true deserving contender. The whole "my legacy and i only fight ppl who help my legacy'' is such horse shit on every level and everybody with working pairs of eyes and ears knows it.

The only legacy related anything Jon is looking for, is not losing and he'd fight double digit pound weighing limbless midgets for all of his remaining fights if they'd let him

 

[Vigfree]

It's really simple.
Tom is the interim champ of the division, who in many ways has a better claim to be champ than Jon. He's won way more fights at heavyweight against many more ranked fighters.
Jon is the champ.

The whole point of this situation is to unify the belts. There is only one fight to make. It doesn't really matter what drivel comes out of Jon's mouth about wanting the fight, his own views on his legacy, etc... Whether or not he's honest about all that, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Either Jon fights the interim champ - an interim champ who has actually defended the interim belt which you NEVER see - or he should vacate. Everybody can have an opinion about how good Jon is at HW or how much this fight will do for either's legacy, etc... but none of that shit actually matters.
Jon needs to defend vs Tom or vacate. Period.

Any other argument is fine to have as your opinion, but completely immaterial as to what should happen next.

 

[World eater]

It's really simple.
Tom is the interim champ of the division, who in many ways has a better claim to be champ than Jon. He's won way more fights at heavyweight against many more ranked fighters.
Jon is the champ.

The whole point of this situation is to unify the belts. There is only one fight to make. It doesn't really matter what drivel comes out of Jon's mouth about wanting the fight, his own views on his legacy, etc... Whether or not he's honest about all that, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Either Jon fights the interim champ - an interim champ who has actually defended the interim belt which you NEVER see - or he should vacate. Everybody can have an opinion about how good Jon is at HW or how much this fight will do for either's legacy, etc... but none of that shit actually matters.
Jon needs to defend vs Tom or vacate. Period.

Any other argument is fine to have as your opinion, but completely immaterial as to what should happen next.

Stop making sense, you will trigger people.

 

[PeterGriffin]

You do understand you in all of your narcissism in thinking Tom is this and that and your opinion is this and that represent a tiny segment of the fans that give a shit about Aspinall? There is a reason friend. He is from a country not particularly huge on mma, American fans some know him most only know he is next in line to fight Jones, also friend HE NEVER HEADLINED A SOLID FUCKING PPV. Again friend you in your narcissism think this is a huge deal for the last fighter remaining from the golden era on the roster and he’s shaking in his boots. Personally unless they were paying a ton I would probably push the issue. There is a reason they haven’t made the fight and if you’re not a fucking dufus you can easily ascertain Jones is a huge deal that America and the entire sport of mma knows and Aspinall is not. Once you come to grips with thise facts we can have a civilized discussion but you ignoring them and approaching me rather aggressively about a month old statement is starting to make me look at you a certain way. Like the leave me smooth alone way

You know MMA is a global sport, and not just American, right? And yes, there is a reason the fight isn't being made, and it's pretty fucking simple... it's Jon. No other reason. Who else is holding it up?

How is me believing that Tom is a legitimate title opponent for Jon being narcissistic? And it's only a tiny segment that want to see the UFC HW titles unified? That's how you're reading the room?

Tom wants the fight, the UFC would LOVE the fight, real MMA fans (except Jon's) want the fight, pro-UFC shill Sherbronis want the fight, fans who give a shit about rankings and integrity want the fight, the media and journalists want the fight... everyone wants the fight. Except for Jon.

So yes, it is a huge deal when the reigning HW champ and (arguably) the GOAT makes obvious excuses to NOT fight one particular opponent. Tom has alpha'd the fuck out of your boy so badly Jones doesn't even want him in the same building as him and he'll shut down reporters asking about him. Jon's been owned, lol.

I would also address the fact you’re coming off kind of a clown trying to push a narrative to me about Tom’s skillset which I’m not addressing at all. Go argue with someone else about that. You seem thirsty to debate that. I’m not him my son. I’m telling you the undeniable reason tge fight has not been made and for some reason it makes your snatch ache.

Of course you are not addressing it, you're conveniently ignoring it because it fucks up your narrative. You're pretty good at missing the obvious even when it's staring you in the face.

No dude you’re lost in the moment it’s not important to Jones overall legacy and half the mma fanbase is kinda meh about Aspinall. If that weren’t the fucking case the fight would have been made. If there is a shred of lie to what I spoke point out a successful Aspinall PPV ever or kinda blow your own horn to someone else as you sound truly mental. Approximately 95% of the fanbase has him as greatest outside of sherdog Swaying the remaining doubters is absolutely not as important as you portray

Saint Jon pricing himself out by asking for a ridiculous sum he knows (in advance) the UFC will never agree to... also makes it highly, highly probable there is a better reason the fight has not been made already than "It's just because Tom's not a name-brand!". Wouldn't you agree?

The way Jon is acting in the public eye, that isn't champ material. That's chump material.

And since you're that oblivious to Aspinall, he won his Interim title at UFC 295 at MSG. At the very same event Jon pulled out of a month out, and Stipe would not face Pav (who was the backup). Tom stepped in on short notice, but the UFC elevated Alex vs. Jiri to the main event. UFC 295 was a banging main card, and Tom even successfully defended his interim title three months before Jon defending his against Sleepy.

How many times should Tom successfully defend his Interim title before you think he becomes worthy enough and deserves a shot at Jon's HW title?

Perhaps you’re a bozo that thinks everyone views things the way you do and when that theory fails you attempt to tell them how they should view them instead of doing what my name implies and minding your fucking business. Isn’t that what got you in this situation? Lying about how important a fighter is that has never headlined a PPV nor garnered much attention outside of Jones nutsack . When you could have been minding yours

You're angry typing now, lol. Doofus (not dufus), bozo, calling others mental... why is always a character attack and not discussing the points made?

This is MMA, not a fucking popularity contest. We get it. You're some assclown who values clicks, views, likes and buyrates over the fights. Good for you. The real MMA fans are here for the fights, the fighters, the rankings and the belts, which you apparently don't give a shit about.

If you did, you wouldn't be sitting here white-knighting some prima donna who has spent years ducking any real challenge to him.

 

[deadshot138]

Jon is a diabolical piece of shit for purposely wasting Toms prime and earning potential being too afraid to fight him. Jones loses nothing by stalling until retirement but Toms window gets smaller every day,