Topuria said Jon Jones has 0 reason to fight Tom Aspinall

[Alpha_T83]

Jon didn't have a spinning back kick? Pretty sure he threw that in the 1st Gus fight 200 years ago

Yup. Joe Rogan has brain rot.

 

[TimeToTrain]

Topuria needs to stay in the FW division because the stock in that division is peaking. Jones on the other hand did not prove anything at HW. The worst division of all time since Tim Sylvia was champ. He needs to fight Tom or vacate.

 

[anuscakes]

Islam's got less of a reason to fight Topuria than Jones does Tom.

 

[Bork Neslar]

If Jones has no reasons to fight Aspinall, then he should just fucking retire already and vacate the belt. So Topuria's comment doesn't make sense. He seems as dumb as you turds.

 

[AstralPanda]

Jones is a fraud and a coward. It's a well-established fact. Also, he's not the best of all times. Topuria kissing his ass on JRE won't change that.

He's the most skilled, talented and accomplished mma fighter in the sports history by a mile.

There's really no objective way to dispute this, only people arguing otherwise don't like him and their analysis of his ability and career is simply a projection of this bias.

All the best fighters know what it is. Topuria is no different.

What he's saying here, objectively cannot be disputed either.

If Jones beat or lost to Aspinall, it wouldn't change anything.

He's 37 and has been fighting for 17 years. He's already the most accomplished fighter of all time. People who act like he has something to prove are incredibly delusional.


There's glazing, then there's facts and reality.

 

[Cameron]

I think he’s wrong. It will be one of the few blemishes on his career.

People will, right or wrong talk about three things when it comes to jones. His many out of ring controversy’s, the Reyes fight and him not fighting tom

It’s also a big risk with little reward.

 

[Tweak896]

I get it, if Jones beats Aspinall, the Jones haters will once again mention how bad the HW division is, how Aspinall had knee issues, was never really tested on the ground before. It would be Gane 2.0 all over again. Lets be honest if Aspinall started losing every fight afterwards they would just say he had a good streak going and Jones win will be dismissed.

If Jones loses they will bask how this was why he avoided HW and he just cherry picked opponents.

It's sort of a lose-lose. Maybe Jones beats Aspinall and Aspinall afterwards defends the belt 3x+ and Jones looks even better, but that's very wishful thinking. Narratives and perspectives can flip on the dime here between in prime and washed up.

 

[ShadowRun]

there are 0 reasons not to strip him...

Strip Belal first Jon fought 5 months ago. Its been 9 months since Belal has fought. If Jones doesn't have a fight scheduled by August then strip him.

 

[ShadowRun]

I get it, if Jones beats Aspinall, the Jones haters will once again mention how bad the HW division is, how Aspinall had knee issues, was never really tested on the ground before. It would be Gane 2.0 all over again. Lets be honest if Aspinall started losing every fight afterwards they would just say he had a good streak going and Jones win will be dismissed.

If Jones loses they will bask how this was why he avoided HW and he just cherry picked opponents.

It's sort of a lose-lose. Maybe Jones beats Aspinall and Aspinall afterwards defends the belt 3x+ and Jones looks even better, but that's very wishful thinking. Narratives and perspectives can flip on the dime here between in prime and washed up.

Agree, I think Jones is working for the payday and playing games until he gets the numbers he wants. Tom will be a easy win but if somehow he catches Jones, he's got to get paid for that risk. There is no glory in beating a gate keeper.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Like how are fans of MMA defending this shit?

It's hilarious.

You're right, the way that something so inconsequential so deeply hurts people here is hilarious!

 

[Chagaev]

Only in MMA I've heard this type of rationalization.

 

[Human Bass]

Well, if Jones has all the glory and nothing left to do, retire then

 

[Luffy]

Rogan and DC also though Max's spinning back kick were a relatively new thing at UFC 300, when he always had it and used to spam it in his early fights.

Lol that's true. The Holloway stuff was kinda silly. The JJ though, I think he tripped in saying "had never used it before". But when he said developed a spinning back kick, I take that as valid... let's say, mastered it. Not fully, but doesn't matter. He trained for months with that Muay Thai French famous coach and with that legendary kicking artist as well (Thai White, I don't remember the name). Before, it'd be used more often to just be a big kick to the belly, but not with KO intent, more like a way to be weakening the fighter. This time, he used it twice, both right at the ~ 1 minute left of round two and then at the same time mark in round three. In the second, he threw more unpretentious, he tried to gauge Stipe's reaction to that. But his spinning back kick and his spinning kick (based on many analysis videos, from Like Thomas and from MMA obsessive analysts and studiers from Korea as well, heh I speak Korean too)

JJ said he had said he would finish Stipe before the championship rounds so he was expecting a mid to late round 3 finish while dominating the fight. And he said he wanted to do Stipe Stipe — to drop him with a big body shot and then finish with ground and pound, like Stipe did to DC. Jones said tho that he was planning on using more left hooks to the liver, but once he felt Stipe's straight right, he realized the best way was to use kicks to tip the body while moving always slightly away from his liver side, as he said catching one of Stipe's straight has finished many HWs instantly... So JJ said he worked up more his opposite side, and that he knew Stipe's chin was world class, but he wanted to test that body endurance for sure and take him down with an impactful body shot.

Weird enough, in his training footage pre fight, he did all that visualization sparring training, which finished with him doing specifically the finishing move:




Here Jon Jones explaining his goal in the fight:

 

[Clark Rogers]

Your arguments are invalid. He hasn't fought in ages and continues to hold up the HW division for no reason. It's been 525 days (!) since he last fought granpa Stipe.

Today is April 18, 2025.

Jon fought Stipe Nov 16, 2024.

365 days in a year, how in the fuck is six months (half a year) "525 days? "

Are you restarted, artistic, or just full of shit?

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Fight the number one contender once a year or GTFO, that's the law of the land, if you don't like it, give up the belt. Time to stop fucking us around.

Time for UFC to grow a pair and remember that they have complete control over what happens with their championships.

 

[joy2day]

Time for UFC to grow a pair and remember that they have complete control over what happens with their championships.

Yep, both are fuck ups. They are simping Jon because their PPV sales are low and they have a shortage of stars. Maybe with Paddy emerging they can get off of Jon's balls and start making fan friendly moves.

 

[The-AxeMurderer]

You're right, the way that something so inconsequential so deeply hurts people here is hilarious!

It should hurt FANS of the sport.

You guys don't want to see the best fighters the best?

And it's funny how people are telling others to chill or tell them they are hurt over the internet.

I'm chill as a cucumber, I want to see the best fight the best.

That's what MMA has always been about.

Some of you want to swing from Jones nutsack and make excuses for why he's ducking the best.

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

GOATpuria speaks the truth

Now watch all these sherdog haters come in here and say Topuria doesn't know shit about fighting. Just from spite.

 

[TOMFDJYEDH]

This guys annoying

 

[shunyata]

GOATpuria speaks the truth

Yeah it's true, but if Jon has no intention to unify the belts he needs to retire and relinquish the strap right now.

Not sit on it for another year.