Topuria said Jon Jones has 0 reason to fight Tom Aspinall

[joy2day]

He had one roid fight vs DC. Again, that fight was a NC. The other fight vs Gus, there was no advantage in the final assessment done.

He fucked who? He went to HW in 2023. He expected to fight Francis. Francis had his reasons and didn't sign the contract. The he fought the # 1 ranked and #1 contender. When JJ saw that Francis didn't sign, as soon as December 2022 he called Stipe to fight early in March, in case Ngannou did not sign. Stipe passed, he said he wanted a full camp for JJ, that a fight in I guess 2 months would be little... He said fighting someone like JJ would need total seriousness from him. Then Gane was the #1 contender, which he defeated in shocking ways.

He called Stipe, and no one complained. Sergei was the back up fighter. JJ never complained nor anything. But then JJ said Stipe would be his last fight, which made total sense tbh... But then ppl started talking about Sergei, while Sergei Pavlovich wasn't even saying anything himself. Then JJ got a pec injury and needed 6 months off. Aspinall won the interim, before that, everyone would mention that Sergei was the one Jones was avoiding. Then it became Aspinall... While ppl blatantly ignore that the UFC never offered JJ to fight Aspinall, they decided that JJ and Stipe should fight. Dana and Hunter said that fight was legendary and needed to happen. Unless the UFC made that official, an interim champion doesn't have the absolute right to fight the undisputed when there is a fight between the undisputed and other legend HW that was scheduled to and rescheduled. The time you waited was due to JJ's injury. He fought Stipe, put on a show, like, ppl would mention the lay off of Stipe only because JJ didn't even seem ring rusty, it's a guy that doesn't seem affected by it.

And like JJ said, the Stipe fight would be the last one. He never went back on it unless there could be a super fight vs Poatan, but he remained that he didn't have anything else to prove and that he is ready to vacate the belt. It's not his fault that he was injured but still got to retain the belt (no fighter can keep the belt by forcing it into the UFC), defeated Stipe and done. If anything, he gave HW an aura by hyping up Tom... Now ppl will be more interested in seeing Tom's defense... Or watching a likely Tom vs Poatan clash, as Poatan weighs naturally 240 lbs and says he can maximize speed and power weighing 245 lbs... And he doesn't look chubby, he looks just... Big, muscular. And he'd be fighting Tom while off injuries like a broken hand or with a virus, he'd make sure that fight, with his even bigger KO power fighting as a HW, would have the utmost preparation. And he seems confident he will defeat Aspinall. Who could imagine that once losing to Izzy, he'd beat Jan Blachowicz, Jiri twice, Hill and lose a very, very close fight vs Ankalaev while not on his best healthy conditions...? No one.

Fight the number one contender once a year or GTFO, that's the law of the land, if you don't like it, give up the belt. Time to stop fucking us around.

 

[legedema]

dont understand the narrative he doesn't need to fight him.
those are fighters and this is what they are doing for living.
if you don't fight the contender that are you even there.
this actually shows also the mindset of Topuria

 

[World eater]

Using the same logic, Islam has 0 reason to fight Ilia. Funny how that works.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

In the podcast with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan said he's one of the best of all times and asked Illia if he think JJ would fight Tom. Topuria : "I don't think Jon Jones will fight Tom. Why would he? For glory? He already has all the glory. He isn't one of the best, he is the best of all times and no one can deny that. That fight doesn't change anything for him"

Well, I think that may give the theory that Alex Poatan is the one fighting Tom Aspinall more fire. JJ retired after Stipe. Done.

He also said Jon Jones never did a spinning kick before his last fight and Joe agreed with him, they both know nothing.

 

[Luffy]

Fight the number one contender once a year or GTFO, that's the law of the land, if you don't like it, give up the belt. Time to stop fucking us around.

Except Tom was never the #1 contender. Prove otherwise. You can't.

 

[Luffy]

dont understand the narrative he doesn't need to fight him.
those are fighters and this is what they are doing for living.
if you don't fight the contender that are you even there.
this actually shows also the mindset of Topuria

Uhh fighters aren't there to fight infinitely. There is a time they retire, you know? That's what Topuria is hinting at, that he thinks JJ will retire and that JJ has done it all and doesn't need anything else as he's the unquestionably GOAT.

 

[Juzie]

Uhh fighters aren't there to fight infinitely. There is a time they retire, you know? That's what Topuria is hinting at, that he thinks JJ will retire and that JJ has done it all and doesn't need anything else as he's the unquestionably GOAT.

Jon is the GOAT for now..but when a fighter comes along and legimately cleans out 2 divisions entirely then theyll be the new GOAT unless Jon does something about that now.

And there's already a guy in mind I think can pull that off....

so yea Jon does need to fight Tom both because the champ is supposed to fucking fight the number 1 contender and also for Jon's long term legacy.

 

[Luffy]

Using the same logic, Islam has 0 reason to fight Ilia. Funny how that works.

Yes, he doesn't. He is willing to go to welterweight anyways. But it's not that Islam doesn't want to fight... He just doesn't want to fight Topuria and at 155. JJ wanted a super fight vs Pereira but otherwise he wants to retire. It's more like a last fight that he thinks would be huge in terms of $, a tough and risky fight and one that'd give the fans hyped up. Though it lost steam after Ankalaev won. But honestly, Alex was in a worse shape with the injuries bs Ankalaev and yet, the fight was really, really close, razor thin advantage to Ankalalev. Seeing how far Poatan went, destroying Prochazka twice, then Hill, having that close match vs Ankalalev while not on his best condition, showing he has a really solid TD defense... Ofc that a full focused camp and with a more suiting weight Poatan (whose natural weight is 235 ~ 240) fighting in a proposed by JJ, BMF title would be very risky for Jon Jones either way. I bet that once Jiri Prochazka crushed Reyes you also would have liked to see Jon Jones vs Jiri Prochazka, huh? But like, JJ was signaling a last fight, while Islam didn't say he has one more fight or anything... Didn't hint at retiring soon. In this case, it seems more like a stronger case for ducking, as he never fought a young up and comer that "could make a name out of his", while JJ fought many of them.

 

[Luffy]

Jon is the GOAT for now..but when a fighter comes along and legimately cleans out 2 divisions entirely then theyll be the new GOAT unless Jon does something about that now.

And there's already a guy in mind I think can pull that off....

so yea Jon does need to fight Tom both because the champ is supposed to fucking fight the number 1 contender and also for Jon's long term legacy.

1) Tom was never the #1 contender. #1 ranked # #1 contender. #1 contender means the next to fight. He was the #1 contender after JJ beat Stipe.
2) No, he doesn't need to fight Tom. There's always going to be the next guy. At some point he needs to retire, like he said he would... He said he didn't care for keeping the belt. Hence, he doesn't care about fighting Tom. He doesn't need to fight Tom. He would need to if he kept fighting in HW, otherwise, as he said he has no intention of, he doesn't need to.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

What a god awful listen that’s gotta be. Couldnt pay me to listen to Tops

Youre no wordsmith dude

Shuddup and put up your dukes

 

[Prazeres]

He also said Jon Jones never did a spinning kick before his last fight and Joe agreed with him, they both know nothing.

Rogan and DC also though Max's spinning back kick were a relatively new thing at UFC 300, when he always had it and used to spam it in his early fights.

 

[orca]

Jones is a fraud and a coward. It's a well-established fact. Also, he's not the best of all times. Topuria kissing his ass on JRE won't change that.

show me a fighter who has 20 title wins
no memes of him getting kod or submitted

best and hardest resume
i will wait

 

[Lycandroid]

coming from a guy who ducked his entire division.

 

[legedema]

Uhh fighters aren't there to fight infinitely. There is a time they retire, you know? That's what Topuria is hinting at, that he thinks JJ will retire and that JJ has done it all and doesn't need anything else as he's the unquestionably GOAT.

I agree Jones is the GOAT but saying that there is no need to fight top contender without retiring sounds stupid.

 

[Squarechoke]

1) Tom was never the #1 contender. #1 ranked # #1 contender. #1 contender means the next to fight. He was the #1 contender after JJ beat Stipe.
2) No, he doesn't need to fight Tom. There's always going to be the next guy. At some point he needs to retire, like he said he would... He said he didn't care for keeping the belt. Hence, he doesn't care about fighting Tom. He doesn't need to fight Tom. He would need to if he kept fighting in HW, otherwise, as he said he has no intention of, he doesn't need to.

Stipe was not ahead of Tom in any legit ranking because he hadn't won a fight in over four years when he fought Jon, and hadn't fought at all for 3.5 years. Someone being removed from the rankings in half that time is still being removed way too late.

Jon doesn't need to fight Tom for himself but he should have already been forced to or vacate his belt. Steroid boy is just being allowed to mess up the top of the HW division with his indecisiveness. A shitty person like always.

 

[usernamee]

He developed it though. This time it was way more accurate. He'd throw many before but more like trying to hit the body... This time, the aim was for the lethal part, the ribs with his heel. That's way different then knowing to throw spinning back kicks but without the finishing, final turn the lights off intent...

Or maybe this time he just happened to land it way better after throwing it a hundred times in fights.

But yes of course it's normal for a fighter to develop his tools through over a decade of fighting.

 

[HwoarangStyle]

shut the fuck up lol. If Jones wants to walk around calling himself heavyweight champion then fight the next heavyweight contender or vacate the belt. He is no champion.

 

[icemun]

Jones is a fraud and a coward. It's a well-established fact. Also, he's not the best of all times. Topuria kissing his ass on JRE won't change that.

How is Jones been established as a fraud and a coward exactly?

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Topuria totally misses the point. nobody is saying Jon has to fight Aspinall. the point is, why does he have the HW belt and doing fuck all with it if he's not going to fight Aspinall? there is literally nothing else to do except retire.

 

[MisfitsBR]

he lowkey said that Jon Jones is retired