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I see one loss on his record, where are these others?
Tom should forget about Jones and ask for another fight
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I see one loss on his record, where are these others?
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Only if the ufc strips jon
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Jon should vacate if he won't fight him. It's pretty simple. The whole premise of this thread is idiotic and inflammatory.
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It really is a sign of the bizarre times we find ourselves in that we're actually getting people seeming to advocate for two concurrent HW belts, as if it's some sign of absolute disrespect to expect the belts to be unified.
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How does having a championship prove you're the best?
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Interims exist in lieu of the champion. Hence why they've usually fought more recently than the actual title holder.It really is a sign of the bizarre times we find ourselves in that we're actually getting people seeming to advocate for two concurrent HW belts, as if it's some sign of absolute disrespect to expect the belts to be unified.
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Tom has not. He should either fight again to prove he's an alternative champion, be stripped of a useless title with a re-active champion, or unify.
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Nope. End of the day defending an interim belt won't be counted as defending the undisputed belt when his career is all said and done. The ufc needs to get some balls and give jon a deadline to sign for a fight with tom on international fight week or be stripped. They stripped JDR for refusing to fight cyborg. It needs to be the same here
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Yeh fair point. Its usually the shittest fighters in any division that are in the mix for a belt lol
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If you're gonna come on here and make threads calling Tom and idiot and criticizing the way he and his management and running things.....actually pay attention to the media for one and what the fighters are saying. Tom literally just did an interview two days ago where he made it clear he's done talking about the Jones fight and the UFC to book him somewhere and he'll show up to fight. So what are you going on about??
‘Bored’ Tom Aspinall done talking about Jon Jones fight, comments on WWE future, UFC’s ‘Big Ank’ bromance
Interim heavyweight champion Tom Aspinall has nothing left to say about his title-unification bout against Jon "Bones" Jones and simply wants UFC to book the fight.
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“I’ve had enough talking about it,” Aspinall told Morson Sport. “Honestly bored of it. We’ll see what happens; yeah, we will just see. I’m ready to fight whenever they tell me. So, just let me know and I will be there.”
Secondly, have some patience and understanding how these type of fights work. Jon just literally fought in mid November, it's 4 monhts. If you know how Jon works, he takes some time off after the fight and lets demand build up in the media and he uses that to his advantage in the negotiations. This isn't Cowboy Cerrone booking his next fight a month later. Jon is negotiating literally the biggest fight of his career. The money has the be right, the time and the event and venue have to be right. Jon is just letting this build up in the media and the more uncertainty there is, the more attention and demand the fight gets.
And you can't blame Aspinal here when the UFC is the one that is pushing for this fight more than anyone. They are leading the negotiations for this fight to happen and telling Tom to wait.
Just be patient and wait. Jon has one option for a fight now and so does Tom. It will all fall into place.
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You're wrong,If you're gonna come on here and make threads calling Tom and idiot and criticizing the way he and his management and running things.....actually pay attention to the media for one and what the fighters are saying. Tom literally just did an interview two days ago where he made it clear he's done talking about the Jones fight and the UFC to book him somewhere and he'll show up to fight. So what are you going on about??
‘Bored’ Tom Aspinall done talking about Jon Jones fight, comments on WWE future, UFC’s ‘Big Ank’ bromance
Interim heavyweight champion Tom Aspinall has nothing left to say about his title-unification bout against Jon "Bones" Jones and simply wants UFC to book the fight.
“I’ve had enough talking about it,” Aspinall told Morson Sport. “Honestly bored of it. We’ll see what happens; yeah, we will just see. I’m ready to fight whenever they tell me. So, just let me know and I will be there.”
Secondly, have some patience and understanding how these type of fights work. Jon just literally fought in mid November, it's 4 monhts. If you know how Jon works, he takes some time off after the fight and lets demand build up in the media and he uses that to his advantage in the negotiations. This isn't Cowboy Cerrone booking his next fight a month later. Jon is negotiating literally the biggest fight of his career. The money has the be right, the time and the event and venue have to be right. Jon is just letting this build up in the media and the more uncertainty there is, the more attention and demand the fight gets.
And you can't blame Aspinal here when the UFC is the one that is pushing for this fight more than anyone. They are leading the negotiations for this fight to happen and telling Tom to wait.
Just be patient and wait. Jon has one option for a fight now and so does Tom. It will all fall into place.
he said he'll fight if it's for the undisputed belt and that's impossible.
He needs to fight other fights defending the interim belt or even give it up if necessary to stay active.
Tom has to choose, do he want to unify or stay active? He can't have both.
It's not impossible though.
Absolutely nothing is stopping the UFC from stripping Jon if he refuses to fight the only deserving contender in his division for his very disputed title.
If Jon won't take the fight, then the UFC is completely free to make Aspinall vs whoever for the undisputed belt.
Ducks don't get to keep their belts indefinitely.
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I have been saying this. He should have been fighting this whole time. He left money on the table. He can end up injuring himself just training while sitting there making nothing.
He could have fight 3 times atleast while waiting for Jon.
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I don't understand why he's not all over the media talking as though JBJ has already retired.
Any questions about Jones being the next fight should be met with dubious looks and replies stating the fact that the GOAT "isn't interested in fighting the top of the division, etc... and that's ok."
His rhetoric should be all around breaking the record at HW for successful defenses of the championships belt, looking forward to the next challenge to the belt, etc... Just talk like Jones isn't fighting anymore
And if the name does come up, just speak about him as currently being another one of the (retired) greats.
It either gets Jones motivated enough to set the date, or it changes the narrative as to who the real champion is (as long as he doesn't backtrack.)
Any questions about Jones being the next fight should be met with dubious looks and replies stating the fact that the GOAT "isn't interested in fighting the top of the division, etc... and that's ok."
His rhetoric should be all around breaking the record at HW for successful defenses of the championships belt, looking forward to the next challenge to the belt, etc... Just talk like Jones isn't fighting anymore
And if the name does come up, just speak about him as currently being another one of the (retired) greats.
It either gets Jones motivated enough to set the date, or it changes the narrative as to who the real champion is (as long as he doesn't backtrack.)
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Well yah lol, that's right and as he should. And why is it impossible?? I don't think you get this scenario very clearly here. Jon Jones has one fight option right now as the UFC HW champion and that is to fight Tom Aspinal. If he refuses this fight, there are no other fights for him to take. So it's either he fights Aspinal or vacates or his stripped of the title.
If the UFC is having too hard a time getting Jon to fight and accept the only fight option, they will strip him of the title.
And Tom knows this situation. So he's either gonna get Jon Jones or fight Gane or Almeida for the undispuated title. There is no scenario where Tom defends the interim belt because that scenario makes no sense. If for some reason Tom and the UFC decide to have him defend the interim belt again, it basically puts him in the same scenario he's in now, waiting for Jon to accept the fight again. So what is the point???t
Tom does not need to defend the interim belt and he wont.
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It's hard to do that considering the media reports are the Jon has accepted and sorted out the money part and now it's just down to the venue and date. Jon already came out and said he will accept the fight but needs 6 months to get ready.
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Tom has to choose:
Do he want to unify
or
Stay active?
That's the big question.
He can't have both.
If he chooses to unify, he will wait six months after signing the contract, then Jones will say he got injured and will need another 6, then another year, then Tom gets injured too....
At long last, in 2030 Jones decides to retire and this fight never happens.
Congratulations to Tom He became champion in 2030 !
I hope I'm wrong and good luck to Tom, he's going to need it.
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Tom has to choose:
Do he want to unify
or
Stay active?
That's the big question.
He can't have both.
If he chooses to unify, he will wait six months after signing the contract, then Jones will say he got injured and will need another 6, then another year, then Tom gets injured too....
At long last, in 2030 Jones decides to retire and this fight never happens.
Congratulations to Tom He became champion in 2030 !
I hope I'm wrong and good luck to Tom, he's going to need it.
Okay well it's very clear that Tom's path, as it should be, is to wait 6 months for Jon. That is staying active lol, any fight he's gonna take will be minimum 3-4 months from now, so what's another 2-3 months. The earliest he could fight is June since the main events for April and May are set, so that is 3 months already. Anything after that is 4 months +, so he may as well wait for Jon.
He doesn't want both. All he wants to do is fight for the actual HW title. His words to the UFC are simple, make the Jon fight happen and I'll wait or if Jon doesn't want to fight make him vacate or strip him and I'll fight someone else.
It's that simple and how it will go down. As much as the UFC loves Jon, they're not going to let him just sit out and refuse to fight the #1 contender.
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Well, there it is... the dumbest thing I will read all day. Thanks bro. You're taking "shillingness" to a whole new level now.
Looks like I might have got my last comment wrong.
The UFC created the interim belt. Tom won it. Period. The status quo up until now has been the undisputed champion unify with the interim champ, so you're going to have to excuse anyone who still believes that makes sense.
It was ALL the Jon-boy knobgobblers that were bent on seeing Jones defend his (artificially installed) belt against the retired firefighter instead of the interim champion. They (collectively) are the ones who fucked up the program. Not Tom, and it is disingenuous to even suggest otherwise. The UFC absolutely could have intervened at any time and course-corrected that, but they chose not to. Not on Tom.
However, Tom did show up and strangely enough, defended an "interim" title (against a legitimate top-10 HW at that). I like how you tried to frame it as if it is Tom being the one dragging their heels though. Tom won and then defended an interim title before Jon even nailed his first title defense. Asking Tom to, or having him defend an Interim championship for a second time is beyond absurd. That is pro-wrestling level shit, period.
And how are you going to sit there with a straight face and say Tom needs to prove he's still an alternative champion? Is every division going to have two active champs now? It is ironic that the ONLY way Tom can unify is if he in fact, fights Jon and no other.
I am not even going to pretend to know what you meant by "be stripped of a useless title with a re-active champion" means.
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