People thinking Miocic was bad vs Jones are stupid

[Luffy]

Stipe wasn't even the same in the 2nd Ngannou fight, heck I think he had already lost a bit of his edge by the first Ngannou fight. Go back and watch Stipe's fights and tell me that he was just as good against Jones as he was in his Prime. Prime Stipe moved forward against almost everrybody he fought, even of they were whooping his ass he would kove forward. He was a pressure fighter. Against Jones he was moving backwards most of the fight, Jones isn't Ngannou, a Prime Stipe would not be moving backwards against Jones.

I watched all of Stipe's fights after the Jones fights and he was much faster in his Prime than he was later in his career, had slowed down significantly by the DC fights. Then being retired for 4 years, coming off a knockout and 42 years old...

But JJ is 37 years old, 5 years younger than Stipe. The difference isn't that big considering Cormier made into a trilogy vs Stipe when Cormier was 42 and Stipe was 37... And it was tough as nails for Stipe...

About ring rusty, the same is true for Jon Jones. Jon Jones fought Reyes one year before Stipe vs Ngannou, and then fought only Gane, which ended in 3 minutes... So JJ had barely a taste of HW yet, was as ring rusty as Stipe and had an injury which took him away from training for months, while Stipe, allegedly, kept training. Every issue Stipe had, also applied to JJ, except the KO loss to Francis... But again, even after being hit by 50 elbows from a 240 pounds HW JJ on the g&p, many of whom were in damaging positions, he was having moments of marching forwards and making it challenging for Jon Jones to evade it due to his overall precision in striking... Heck, if anything, he was as tough as possible due to being still somewhat threatening in the 2 and 3rd rounds in the striking only...

You can't expect someone to be as quick you and I have seen of prime Stipe after that first round. Before that, looking at his initial attempted punches, he looked pretty quick and sharp.

 

[moreorless87]

But JJ is 37 years old, 5 years younger than Stipe. The difference isn't that big considering Cormier made into a trilogy vs Stipe when Cormier was 42 and Stipe was 37... And it was tough as nails for Stipe...

About ring rusty, the same is true for Jon Jones. Jon Jones fought Reyes one year before Stipe vs Ngannou, and then fought only Gane, which ended in 3 minutes... So JJ had barely a taste of HW yet, was as ring rusty as Stipe and had an injury which took him away from training for months, while Stipe, allegedly, kept training. Every issue Stipe had, also applied to JJ, except the KO loss to Francis... But again, even after being hit by 50 elbows from a 240 pounds HW JJ on the g&p, many of whom were in damaging positions, he was having moments of marching forwards and making it challenging for Jon Jones to evade it due to his overall precision in striking... Heck, if anything, he was as tough as possible due to being still somewhat threatening in the 2 and 3rd rounds in the striking only...

You can't expect someone to be as quick you and I have seen of prime Stipe after that first round. Before that, looking at his initial attempted punches, he looked pretty quick and sharp.

That Jones has declined is an entirely separate question as to whether Stipe has declined though.

 

[McSpikes]

He looked horrible and the fight was a complete waste of time and did nothing for JBJ legacy. The fight basically does as much for JBJ legacy as DC beating Anderson does for him