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News McGregor back in court

Right, the studies I linked to and quoted are selectively handpicked to confirm my biases, as opposed to the numerous other studies that show that the data presented by FBI, scientific research, and independent organizations, is false.

I am still waiting for the "data" and documentation that backs that sexual assault accusations happens ONLY against the rich and TYPICALLY without evidence.

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The truth is, you are just an imbecile.

An uneducated, pompous moron who opens his mouth to vomit misogynist bullshit and tries to justify it in his own head by claiming it is "backed by data." When proven wrong, you call out people for confirmation bias, without having any evidence to show for it.
Truth of the matter is you're sub 80 iq and your arrogance bolsters your ignorance. You have a false sense of merit. It's dunning kruger in real time. It's okay though. Keep posting. You've got about 50 in this thread alone. I'm sure she'll get the message that you're a good guy.
 
Truth of the matter is you're sub 80 iq and your arrogance bolsters your ignorance. You have a false sense of merit. It's dunning kruger in real time. It's okay though. Keep posting. You've got about 50 in this thread alone. I'm sure she'll get the message that you're a good guy.

You are waffling because you have jack shit to show, only words. I linked to numerous sources, and you claimed to have well documented data to back your claims.

Where is it?
 
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Lol wtf.

You don't recall if you paid his fees. But you possibly did. You believe you did. Dude just got pressured out of his lie in plain sight.

Also, why are they both smiling like buffoons like it's the happiest situation of their life...

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<< that's sketchy asf.

Okay now I'm back to believing fully Mcgregor is guilty.

HE suggested to the police James had sex with her after him. After saying 'you sure she didn't sleep with anyone else', and then after being shown full evidence of her bruising... threw the guy under the bus. Probably did that and then paid the guy off. That's why he's paying his fees too.

Also, 'I'm not sure' to that question :/

I don't think he pre-arranged that with James. I think he just threw him under the bus tryna blame him. McGregor is pure scum.

Def tryna make him the fall guy. But James' DNA wasn't found in/on her.
 
These three things about the story are really weird on both sides too...

1. Nikita says James didn't have sex with her, but comforted her. And saw the bruises n was like 'wow I can't believe that happened when I was here' etc. This rings true to me, and looking at the guy, without knowing him, he just seems like a nerdy nice guy, might be wrong but I can imagine this.

2. James said this never happened, and that he had sex with her. I think he's saying this bc McGregor threw him under the bus by putting his name in it. It was only AFTER McGregor did this, that he went to the police station and said he did! So he's trying to make it look like McGregor isn't lying, and back up that they both didn't do this...

For all we know - McGregor threw his name in there to try blame him and get him out of it, then told James his name was in it now and he may as well back him or they're both or he is fucked. And that's why they're now in this together. And, what choice would James really have then? other than to just say McGregor is lying... and he can say whatever he wants but he's probably shit scared of McGregor and his cronies, so no way he would do that.

Okay now I think the truth is making sense of what happened...

But,

3. Why tf is she suing James, if she says he didn't have sex with her and just comforted her :/
 
Another day closer to the verdict.

Lots of heated discussion in here lately, I think we should all take a step back and let the jury do their job.

Shame we can’t do polls in individual posts. I’m leaning towards a guilty verdict and a 6 million euro payout.
 
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<< that's sketchy asf.

Okay now I'm back to believing fully Mcgregor is guilty.

HE suggested to the police James had sex with her after him. After saying 'you sure she didn't sleep with anyone else', and then after being shown full evidence of her bruising... threw the guy under the bus. Probably did that and then paid the guy off. That's why he's paying his fees too.

Also, 'I'm not sure' to that question :/

I don't think he pre-arranged that with James. I think he just threw him under the bus tryna blame him. McGregor is pure scum.

Def tryna make him the fall guy. But James' DNA wasn't found in/on her.
James never slept with her.

Conor would have straight away said "she slept with James too, why am i being blamed" but he instead chose "are you sure she didn't sleep with anyone else" He knew or at least thought shit, Iam in trouble here so he posed that question and than after that James comes forward saying he slept with her yet Nikita never ever mentioned sleeping with him and denies it. Could she be lying? Yes but i don't see the need for her to lie about that. It's much more probable at least that they concluded this together and Mcgregor possibly either paid or threatened James because why else would he incriminate himself? Of course he could be telling the truth but i don't think he's credible and i don't for a second believe he doesn't take cocaine (but i accept that's just my view and means little)

Also. Is it a fact that he left with Nikita and not Danielle? He slipped up and mentioned leaving with Danielle yesterday then said "sorry i mean Nikita'"

Is there any possibility Conor sent him home with Danielle and Conor was the one that stayed with Nikita?

I don't see why James would spend the night with Danielle but then suddenly leave with Nikita (while Conor leaves with Danielle) and he rejects nikita 15 times, he's in the car to go home and feels peer pressure so he decides to suddenly bring her back again for sex. Again, it just doesn't seem logical.
 
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The final witness in the case was a doctor called on behalf of Mr McGregor. The court was told Professor Basil John Farnan is a GP and a forensic physician with experience of examining victims of various types of assault.

Prof Farnan explained that bruises were caused by blunt trauma which causes blood vessels under the skin to be damaged and the blood to leak and percolate towards the skin.

He said if the bruising is deep in the tissue it can take 24 or 48 hours to appear on the skin.

He said bruises could change in size, shape, colour and position as they developed.

Prof Farnan said there was a "website" which stated that Sertraline – an anxiety medication which Ms Hand was taking had a propensity to cause bruises."


This seems to be clutching at straws to me.
 
These three things about the story are really weird on both sides too...

1. Nikita says James didn't have sex with her, but comforted her. And saw the bruises n was like 'wow I can't believe that happened when I was here' etc. This rings true to me, and looking at the guy, without knowing him, he just seems like a nerdy nice guy, might be wrong but I can imagine this.

2. James said this never happened, and that he had sex with her. I think he's saying this bc McGregor threw him under the bus by putting his name in it. It was only AFTER McGregor did this, that he went to the police station and said he did! So he's trying to make it look like McGregor isn't lying, and back up that they both didn't do this...

For all we know - McGregor threw his name in there to try blame him and get him out of it, then told James his name was in it now and he may as well back him or they're both or he is fucked. And that's why they're now in this together. And, what choice would James really have then? other than to just say McGregor is lying... and he can say whatever he wants but he's probably shit scared of McGregor and his cronies, so no way he would do that.

Okay now I think the truth is making sense of what happened...

But,

3. Why tf is she suing James, if she says he didn't have sex with her and just comforted her :/
I guess that's her way of saying "fuck you for lying and trying to pull a fast one, you just incriminated yourself so iam suing you too now"

Although has it actually been confirmed she's suing him? She said she had no issue with him until she found out that he was saying he had sex with her too.

I think it's worth noting that there might be a possibility she genuinely confided in James, she felt vulnerable and had no idea what to do and James was happy to offer her a shoulder to cry on and maybe that came across on CCTV as intimacy, closeness etc and the reason why he brought her back to the hotel was possibly because she was scared and didn't know what to do or where to go and he was trying to figure things out himself. He brings her back to listen to what she has to say etc and eventually he decides fuck this, I want no part in this and leaves and gets her a taxi etc

He wanted no part in this until Conor brought his name into it. And he's too fearful of going against Conor plus feels obliged to help because not only is Conor a friend, but he wants to keep it that way. Doesn't want to be enemies with Conor and he stands to gain from helping Conor.

Proving things ain't easy but to my mind, it's obvious both men are lying and know more than they are saying. It's not like it's unusual for a rapist to deny it and claim its consensual.

Wouldn't surprise me too if Conor genuinely believed nikita was wanting what he was doing to her. He's a mad man. Can only imagine what he's like behind closed doors under the influence of alcohol and cocaine.

Oh and him saying he booked the hotel to relax and refresh was laughable. You need to have blinkers on to believe the nonsense he's coming out with
 
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The final witness in the case was a doctor called on behalf of Mr McGregor. The court was told Professor Basil John Farnan is a GP and a forensic physician with experience of examining victims of various types of assault.

Prof Farnan explained that bruises were caused by blunt trauma which causes blood vessels under the skin to be damaged and the blood to leak and percolate towards the skin.

He said if the bruising is deep in the tissue it can take 24 or 48 hours to appear on the skin.

He said bruises could change in size, shape, colour and position as they developed.

Prof Farnan said there was a "website" which stated that Sertraline – an anxiety medication which Ms Hand was taking had a propensity to cause bruises."


This seems to be clutching at straws to me.
I know ppl who take sertraline and while iam not saying he's wrong. Never every has any of them had issues with bruises from taken it. That's beyond clutching at straws. Sure maybe she's just diabetic and had a dream she was raped.
 
To me, the suspicious parts of James' role in all of this are:
  • 3 days after the alleged rape, James goes to the same exact solicitor as Conor.
  • Conor pays for James' legal fees
  • Conor gave his statement to gardai first and suggests that maybe someone else slept with Nikita.
  • James, who was not under suspicion, goes in to give a statement saying he slept with nikita twice.
  • Despite saying he had sex with her twice, none of his DNA was found.
  • Also says he had sex with Danielle 3 times in 1 hour while Conor was having sex with Nikita, yet the testimony of a security guard said that every time he (the security guard) came into the room during that hour, both James and Danielle were dressed.
 
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I don't recall nikita accusing James Lawrence of anything yet iam seeing reports that James Lawrence denies the accusations. What accusations? Is this referring to her believing he's lying about having sex with her?
 
When did it all start going downhill for McGregor? Post Khabib loss? It's such a comedown to how he was known. He was the charismatic, energetic, entertaining guy. I think him getting mixed up with the Irish gangs made things a lot worse. He seems to have spiralled after associating himself with them.
 
I guess that's her way of saying "fuck you for lying and trying to pull a fast one, you just incriminated yourself so iam suing you too now"

Although has it actually been confirmed she's suing him? She said she had no issue with him until she found out that he was saying he had sex with her too.

I think it's worth noting that there might be a possibility she genuinely confided in James, she felt vulnerable and had no idea what to do and James was happy to offer her a shoulder to cry on and maybe that came across on CCTV as intimacy, closeness etc and the reason why he brought her back to the hotel was possibly because she was scared and didn't know what to do or where to go and he was trying to figure things out himself. He brings her back to listen to what she has to say etc and eventually he decides fuck this, I want no part in this and leaves and gets her a taxi etc

He wanted no part in this until Conor brought his name into it. And he's too fearful of going against Conor plus feels obliged to help because not only is Conor a friend, but he wants to keep it that way. Doesn't want to be enemies with Conor and he stands to gain from helping Conor.

Proving things ain't easy but to my mind, it's obvious both men are lying and know more than they are saying. It's not like it's unusual for a rapist to deny it and claim its consensual.

Wouldn't surprise me too if Conor genuinely believed nikita was wanting what he was doing to her. He's a mad man. Can only imagine what he's like behind closed doors under the influence of alcohol and cocaine.

Oh and him saying he booked the hotel to relax and refresh was laughable. You need to have blinkers on to believe the nonsense he's coming out with

Yep. I think this is exactly what's happened.

That's a good point, about the CCTV... I think it's a shame she can't remember half the night but understandable, I drink every weekend and rarely remember half the night or what I said...

So, that CCTV they're saying contradicts the state she 'should be in'... I think actually what you're saying is likely true @ she confided in James, in the room, he comforted her, then that's why she's like, vying for safety and affection from him after such an ordeal; which, Conor's scumbag defense tried to portray as her basically being a lying slut flirting etc. but I bet it was that. She was probably after a state of shock and seeking comfort. And he was a nice guy comforting her.

And then Conor threw his name into it, after seeing the bruises n shit.. that's so fkn shifty. To force him into it, and shift blame, what a scumbag thing to do to a friend too. Shows how little regard he has for anyone but himself. And as you say, James I bet is shit scared to go against him or his cronies, so is now going along with Conor's story, and obviously has to say he saw no bruising or shit bc then he's saying Conor must have raped her... but also has to obviously say he didn't do it... but ALSO say he had sex with her - because Conor told the police he did! And he went in and told them he did only after Conor said that!... they didn't even ask him in, he went in voluntarily... aka no doubt after Conor urged him to.

Yep. I believe this is 100% the truth, makes total sense of why James is saying he had sex with her n she's saying no.

His DNA would be in/on her plain and simple, and it wasn't.

Conor raped her. James comforted her. Conor threw him under the bus and entrapped him in his story so that he's now lying for Conor. This is what happened. We've sussed it.

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The fact McGregor is walking out the fkn court smiling like a weirdo shows what a sick fuck he is too. I thought he looked embarrassed and ashamed like when this first came up and even in some pics recently, but, probably as he thought he was caught... I think he's smiling like that now bc he thinks he's gonna get away with it here. How can you smile like that, knowing what you did, and seeing the poor woman relive it - and surely you would relive it and, if you had any conscience, be fkn ashamed of yourself... yet he's walking around smiling. Tosser.
 
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