Islam vs Topuria is stupid, makes no sense and will not happen (not anytime soon, at least)

[b00tysweat]

Back to my point: Dana should know this is about Islam's legacy and cementing as the best LW to ever do it.
I believe he needs a proper win (not a late replacement in his UFC debut) against Arman, the #1 contender.

Islam should (and I think he will) ask for it, and UFC should make it happen.

Arman had his chance and blew it. Time for Topuria then Belol

 

[cburm]

If Islam wins, the UFC loses possibly their most valuable "0" in Topuria.

If Topuria wins, the UFC would break the all-time longest winning streak (tied with AS) of Islam.


Islam should ask for Arman in Abu Dhabi, October. And fight someone in the meantime (Charles rematch? Gaethje/Hooker if the fight is not a total war so the winner is ready to fight by June? Gamrot?)

If he wins both, 155 is cleared, longest winning streak records is broken (he'd have 17 in a row) and THEN he could fight Topuria or move to 170 for a second belt.

Topuria has to fight Evloev, at least. And if anyone deserves a rematch (not meaning he'd win the belt back) @ 145 is Volk.

Makes a lot of sense for illia its at lw so illia will still be undefeated champ at 145 and Islam could have another loss on his record..

 

[Mcnugget]

Islam should move up

But that’s a great fight those two guys feel the most lethal right now beasides Alex

 

[Versez]

explaining why

Your name is in pink, are you a special sherdogger ?

 

[JoeRowe]

It would be better than Islam/Charles 2 & Ilia/Volk 2.

I'd prefer Islam vs Arman 2 & Ilia vs Lopes but we won't get either of those next

 

[Koro_11]

If Islam wins, the UFC loses possibly their most valuable "0" in Topuria.

If Topuria wins, the UFC would break the all-time longest winning streak (tied with AS) of Islam.


Islam should ask for Arman in Abu Dhabi, October. And fight someone in the meantime (Charles rematch? Gaethje/Hooker if the fight is not a total war so the winner is ready to fight by June? Gamrot?)

If he wins both, 155 is cleared, longest winning streak records is broken (he'd have 17 in a row) and THEN he could fight Topuria or move to 170 for a second belt.

Topuria has to fight Evloev, at least. And if anyone deserves a rematch (not meaning he'd win the belt back) @ 145 is Volk.

Are you more interested in padding records and preserving 0's or seeing what happens when the best fights the best?

 

[RichardHarrow]

Na Arman blew his chance.

 

[Discjockeyshtud]

If Islam wins, the UFC loses possibly their most valuable "0" in Topuria.

If Topuria wins, the UFC would break the all-time longest winning streak (tied with AS) of Islam.

Sounds like the ideal fight to me

Precisely why it belongs with the Aspinall vs Pereira / Jones card on ifw

 

[Pious Augustus]

Your name is in pink, are you a special sherdogger ?

Yes

 

[Bork Neslar]

It shouldn't happen. Topuria is like 4'11 or something.

 

[AmonTobin]

I’d prefer to see Topuria defend his title like everybody else. Division hopping for immediate and unqualified title shots is an ostentatious gimmick when it’s unearned.

 

[Rubios]

Are you more interested in padding records and preserving 0's or seeing what happens when the best fights the best?

Asking for Arman, the #1 contender, to have another chance at the TS.
Rematching Oliveira, Justin/Hooker winner or Gamrot.

Where's the padding? It would be a sweep of the division.

 

[Koro_11]

Asking for Arman, the #1 contender, to have another chance at the TS.
Rematching Oliveira, Justin/Hooker winner or Gamrot.

Where's the padding? It would be a sweep of the division.

The only legit fight there is Arman, and the guy pulled out the day before the fight so it's kinda hard to make that one again.

Oliveira got crushed and showed nothing to indicate a rematch would go any different. Justin, Hooker and Gamrot have no business fighting for a title.

Ilia would chin all those dudes and is the biggest threat to Makhachev.

 

[Rubios]

The only legit fight there is Arman, and the guy pulled out the day before the fight so it's kinda hard to make that one again.

Oliveira got crushed and showed nothing to indicate a rematch would go any different. Justin, Hooker and Gamrot have no business fighting for a title.

Ilia would chin all those dudes and is the biggest threat to Makhachev.

Fair point of view.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I believe clearing a division, sweeping away any doubt about having any business left there before moving up (or facing another contender moving up), is important.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

If Islam wins, the UFC loses possibly their most valuable "0" in Topuria.

If Topuria wins, the UFC would break the all-time longest winning streak (tied with AS) of Islam.


Islam should ask for Arman in Abu Dhabi, October. And fight someone in the meantime (Charles rematch? Gaethje/Hooker if the fight is not a total war so the winner is ready to fight by June? Gamrot?)

If he wins both, 155 is cleared, longest winning streak records is broken (he'd have 17 in a row) and THEN he could fight Topuria or move to 170 for a second belt.

Topuria has to fight Evloev, at least. And if anyone deserves a rematch (not meaning he'd win the belt back) @ 145 is Volk.

If, if, if you were my mother's brother, you'd be my uncle.

Totally disagree.

#1, Armand Tsarukyan doesn't deserve a shot ever again. He literally shit the bed on the opportunity of a lifetime. Never want to hear about this guy again.

#2, Ilia Topouria has a very real shot at KOing Islam Makhachev.

Islam was freaking dropped by feather-fisted Volkanovski, so Topouria's clinical + devastating hands have a real chance of ending the fight at any time. Also, as a smaller wrestler, Topouria is going to have a more difficult center of gravity to control — and he will always be more dangerous once he gets back up.

Finally, the UFC clearly isn't afraid of fighters losing their "0" ... as they routinely pit undefeated fighters together, to see who-is-who.

Stupid post, idiotic thought process.

 

[Striker Fox]

As a fan I just want to see the top 2 p4p fighters fight each other.

Could not care less if Topuria loses his "0" or Islam loses his streak, or that Topuria "needs" to defend more at FW.

 

[agibmxmma]

UFC can't be (and won't be) THAT short-sighted.
Yes, a "super fight" sells a ton of PPV and makes lots of money today.

But there's a feeling that JJ's retirement will mean the end of the best generation of fighters the company has ever seen (GSP, AS, DC, DJ... you know).
A step below, legends such as Aldo, Khabib, Usman, Volk, Adesanya, Miocic, Holloway, Poirier... are either retired or a fight away from riding to the sunset.

The passing of the torch is going fairly well: Merab, Ilia, DDP, Poatan, Aspinall... but it would take time before any of these fighters achieve the same greatness than the names before them.

Then you have Islam, just two victories away from the longest winning streak of all-time.
And Ilia, the most exciting undefeated fighter in the company.

Powerful and non-manufactured narratives, history being made, makes way more money in the long term.
Because any subsequent Islam fight is one for the books, and a legend would enter the cage every time.

Risking Topuria or Makhachev in a super fight is in fact a lose/lose scenario for the UFC.

Underrated comment +1

 

[omawho402]

Big fan of both so I certainly hope it doesn't happen.

 

[Preston broadus]

Islam has smashed everyone but his resume is going to be less impressive over time if half of his title defenses are against fw.

Volk-tough fight
Volk-great performance
dustin-he got busted open and khabib did it better
moicano-shouldnt even count. He's beefing with paddy pimblet for christ sake
Topuria-fw

Arman or justin should be next for him. Moving up is an interesting option as well.

 

[moreorless87]

I'd guess it may depend a but how much the UFC is behind Topruia, logic says they should be pushing him strongly but Dana has been known to be a bit of a fanboy and might still view him as "the guy who beat Volk and Max".

Champ vs Champ does tend to be when the UFC values one champ more than the other, the exception perhaps being BJ/GSP II which the former pretty much forced on them.

Hype wise as well I suspect this maybe a bigger fight if both men are still champs in 12-18 months.