Islam Makachev is not champ material

[Ackmed]

it's not that i don't like him, i feel nothing for him, which is probably worse. i don't like Conor McGregor, but only an idiot would think he sucks. i do not feel the same when i watch Islam fight. i get he's good, but people are acting like he's some world beater with exactly zero top 10 wins. i feel the same about Zabit, they're gaining hype because of the mysticism around Dagestani fighters.

i've seen this happen before in MMA. it happened with Brazilians. every new Brazilian was some crazy monster never before seen skill level but hardly any ever lived up to the hype. it was all just remnants of the Gracie era.

i'm not saying good fighters don't lose to cans, i'm saying future world champions do not get KO'd by cans. if you think i'm full of shit you can just start naming all the champions who have been KO'd by nobodys. i'll name you one, Andrei Arlovski. but as i said in my former post, besides HW, there's no other weight classes where champions were KO'd by cans.

maybe Islam will prove me wrong and then you can bump my posts and gloat over the internet, but until then, you don't have much of an argument for what i can see except to personally attack me.

Lol u feel nothing for him yet typed 4 paragraphs about him that even me, as a fan, find it too long to read

 

[ArmenianAssasin]

Haha Islam living rent free in a bunch of sherdoggers heads. I'm going to bump this thread when he's LW Champion in late 2021 or early 2022.

Islam Makhachev
6 Fight Win Streak
Most Ducked Fighter in History
International Sambo Master
Future Lightweight Champion
Movie Star Good Looks
Loved by women
Mensa IQ
Best Nutritionist in the Game
Incredible sense if humour
Epic hairline
Glorious J-haplogroup specimen
Best strinking defence stats in all of UFC

damn was looking for this to copy and paste for you

 

[Ackmed]

He lacks charisma on mic. His English and his accent are much worse than khabibs and are not appealing. Having set that in terms of skill he is definitely on khabibs level or very close to it. Mentally khabib is def stronger, and i think the biggest difference is the chin. Islam has a suspect chin been KO before. So obviously he could never have khabibs confidence

He has an accent but it adds to his humor and charisma, like when he called out Floyd Mayweather and Brock Lesnar in post fight speeches, also when he said he'll send Fighter Kevin Lee back to the prelims.

He could have been a famous comedian earning millions more but out of warrior spirit chose to take the MMA LW Champ road instead

 

[ArmenianAssasin]

also - in before announcement of Islam Makachev v Jessin Ayari

seems like we will never know how good he is

 

[Kono dio da!]

He doesnt have elite striking nor does he have khabib wrestling, if khabib didnt have his wrestling he wouldnt be anywhere near the top 3, he's well rounded but almost every champ is a specialist at something.

Wait what? Just because he's not khabib, doesn't mean his wrestling isn't elite. Look what he does to his opponents. He smeshes them. Khabib is an extreme example. Frankie Edgar was no khabib but he had elite wrestling. Also remember his age. Khabib was not the fighter he is now at 27-28 he was dominant but not as rounded. Makhachev Is not perfect but claiming he's not champ material is nonsense. In your opinion who's champ in the post tony khabib Era then?

 

[Ackmed]

Islam has better English than Zabit but Zabit still got ranked opponents and is now a title contender. It's just a matter of time before Islam does too.

 

[n.diazismylife1999]

He had been Ko'd once in his whole career due to reckless mistake and now he's chinny. Good grief the weed is too strong for some to take.

Yes, it's actually retarded how many 'Doggers think that getting caught once when you run into the full power counter-punch of a KO artist means you're "chinny." And Islam didn't even go fully out, he was still defending.

EVERYONE can get knocked out. Getting caught once means absolutely nothing.

 

[n.diazismylife1999]

He doesnt have elite striking nor does he have khabib wrestling, if khabib didnt have his wrestling he wouldnt be anywhere near the top 3, he's well rounded but almost every champ is a specialist at something.

According to some people at AKA, he has better wrestling than Khabib. There's no evidence whatsoever of his wrestling being worse, but there is some circumstantial evidence that it's better.

 

[n.diazismylife1999]

Haha Islam living rent free in a bunch of sherdoggers heads. I'm going to bump this thread when he's LW Champion in late 2021 or early 2022.

Islam Makhachev
6 Fight Win Streak
Most Ducked Fighter in History
International Sambo Master
Future Lightweight Champion
Movie Star Good Looks
Loved by women
Mensa IQ
Best Nutritionist in the Game
Incredible sense if humour
Epic hairline
Glorious J-haplogroup specimen
Best strinking defence stats in all of UFC

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/islam-makhachev-is-going-to-be-the-lw-goat.3853067/

 

[Willie]

How does TS know if Islam's wresling is not as good as Khabib ?

 

[AlanGregson]

How does TS know if Islam's wresling is not as good as Khabib ?

Would khabib have problems wrestling a 22 year old?

 

[Willie]

Would khabib have problems wrestling a 22 year old?

Where did you see him have problems ? Khabib is a different fighter. I swear you guys would twist anything to fit your little bias. Being 22 doesnt mean shit, Tsarukyan (since I guess you're talking about him) is legit.

 

[zippo88]

I believe that he is definitely a top 10 fighter but he isn’t a champion caliber. Technically, he can be as good as Khabib (Khabib’s father mentioned that Makhachev is better than Khabib in some areas of grappling) but there is just something missing. Maybe he is mentally not as strong as Khabib or maybe not as motivated and eager I’m not so sure. Khabib has it in his blood that why he is so unique.

 

[Willie]

I believe that he is definitely a top 10 fighter but he isn’t a champion caliber. Technically, he can be as good as Khabib (Khabib’s father mentioned that Makhachev is better than Khabib in some areas of grappling) but there is just something missing. Maybe he is mentally not as strong as Khabib or maybe not as motivated and eager I’m not so sure. Khabib has it in his blood that why he is so unique.

This is what is bugging me, Khabib is a bit of a unicorn of the LW division, he sets the bar so high for him and his team mates that now they are all going to be compared to him, Islam is no Khabib, Umar is Khabib, Abubakar is no Khabib but yet they are all judged like they should do the same things. They are different fighters with different skill sets.

 

[Ajax41]

He doesn't have the confidance that Khabib has, he can barely speak English, he's not good on the mic, his wrestling doesn't seem to be on the same level as Khabib, he was having legit trouble vs at that time a 22 year old guy making his debut Arman Tsarukyan, his chin seems to be suspect and his standup although more fluid than Khabib isnt enough to make him a champ, he's well rounded but doesnt really have that thing that separates him from the rest, i dont see him becoming a champ in a stacked division like LW.

yessir! can’t be champ if you haven’t fought anyone inside the top 20 ‍ McGregor made him famous somehow.

 

[AlanGregson]

Where did you see him have problems ? Khabib is a different fighter. I swear you guys would twist anything to fit your little bias. Being 22 doesnt mean shit, Tsarukyan (since I guess you're talking about him) is legit.

What do you mean by you guys? I'm a fan of both khabib and islam but i also actually train mma, and i see difference's in their wrestling technique and fight iq, khabib is superior by a long shot, khabib really likes islam so ofc he's gonna hype him up, but it isnt gonna hapoen, he just doesnt have what it takes to be a champ.
Also looked pretty problametic to me.

 

[Willie]

What do you mean by you guys? I'm a fan of both khabib and islam but i also actually train mma, and i see difference's in their wrestling technique and fight iq, khabib is superior by a long shot, khabib really likes islam so ofc he's gonna hype him up, but it isnt gonna hapoen, he just doesnt have what it takes to be a champ.
Also looked pretty problametic to me.

I see a guy who is fighting and defending the take downs pretty well, in comparison Khabibs got takend down by Tibau and Trujillo pretty easily, so I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Islam had never been taken down before, khabib has been taken 6 times in two fights if my memory serves well. Islam and Khabib shares similarities but they are different fighters. You can't judge Islam's wrestling just based on that fight.

 

[xyzxyz94]

So? If everyone who wasn’t champ material just gave up there wouldn’t be a sport anymore.

 

[AlanGregson]

I see a guy who is fighting and defending the take downs pretty well, in comparison Khabibs got takend down by Tibau and Trujillo pretty easily, so I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Islam had never been taken down before, khabib has been taken 6 times in two fights if my memory serves well. Islam and Khabib shares similarities but they are different fighters. You can't judge Islam's wrestling just based on that fight.

See, taken down or controlled are different things pal, islam got controlled, khabib got taken down by blast dubbles which he either got up from or in abel's case locked up a triangle... There's levels to it.

 

[zippo88]

This is what is bugging me, Khabib is a bit of a unicorn of the LW division, he sets the bar so high for him and his team mates that now they are all going to be compared to him, Islam is no Khabib, Umar is Khabib, Abubakar is no Khabib but yet they are all judged like they should do the same things. They are different fighters with different skill sets.

It’s not even necessarily about the skills. To be a champ you have to also be mentally strong, extremely disciplined and motivated. And not everyone has it in them.