If Poatan defeats Ankalaev

[Luffy]

Ankaleyev will defeat Pereira

Then Jon Jones vs Ankalaev in that case hehe

 

[Simple Southerner]

It's not if it's when Alex beats ank.

 

[Pechan]

Ankaleyev will defeat Pereira

He won't

 

[Luffy]

If Jones retires after taking down Poatan and cleaning the floor with him, you have your best-seller who looks stupid and will most likely not fight for 6 months because of vicious ground-and pound

Well, they both are ant the fight. If they are protecting someone from that, then that person look stupid already... Poatan isn't naive, he wouldn't accept the fight now knowing what he's getting into. Glover fought Jon Jones, has been on LHW for a long time, of course Poatan knows what he can deal with. If Ankalaev tries taking Poatan down, and Poatan manages to stop his takedowns and KO Ankalaev, there is no reason for people to think this fight would be a forgone conclusion at all. I mean, when Poatan defeated Jiri Prochazka, many people started talking about how Jon Jones would be afraid of Poatan... That Jon Jones knows he isn't in that level anymore, that Pereira and Aspinall is the real badass fight... But Jones only had to say he wanted that fight that ppl started talking about it like a foregone conclusion.

If we look at Jon Jones barely defeating Reyes, then Jiri Prochazka defeating Reyes like an animal, then Jiri being stopped twice in a heavily dominant fashion by Poatan... It is a bigger name than Reyes. Jon Jones has struggled to bring strikers who trained grappling for some years, down. Poatan, having already the same amount of training Reyes had in grappling when he faced Jon Jones (Reyes had been training grappling for MMA for 6 years, Poatan started training MMA in 2019), can be as threatening as maybe anyone.

I mean, I'm talking about a LHW bout, not a HW one. JJ and Poatan talked about it being at 205. That wouldn't hold any belt down... It'd be just a clash of LHW legends. There is no reason to assume Jon Jones would finish Poatan like he did vs Gane... Poatan has clearly been showing massive improvements in between fights to his ground game. He was better than Jiri Prochazka in grappling at least, since not only did he stop the takedown, but it looked like he barely tried much and could already separate with little effort... I mean, after Jon Jones vs Reyes and Reyes vs Jiri, would you think Jon Jones could absolutely dominate and run through Jiri Prochakza? Basically no one thought, they all thought that guys like Jiri, Jan, etc. were the reasons Jones went to HW. But a guy who beat all those instantly becomes easy work even at LHW? I mean, what? Has Jon Jones gotten so much better since he vacated the LHW belt?

 

[MrBlackheart]

Ankaleyev will defeat Pereira

And in brutal fashion

 

[Ginja_Ninja]

Exactly!

Ducked the whole HW division from 2013-2020

Then ducked Francis and Tom lol

I mean if you don't want the challenge I get it but to move up and fight two guys coming off a loss and call that your HW run????

Then your gonna leave the most legit challenge you've had in over a decade and fight a guy that nobody thinks can wrestle with you.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

He is beating Alex 10 out of 10 times. I wish Alex would ko him but that's not happening.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Pereira Jones only makes sense if it’s for a belt and it’s downright criminal to allow Jon to avoid Tom yet again.

If Alex wins, let him face the winner between Tom and Jon

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

And in brutal fashion

shertards gonna be surprised when alex gets pinned on the ground and flattened with ground and pound, Jan nearly did it before gassing out since he was 40.

 

[Nobru]

pereira gonna defend takedowns using his punches
what ya smoking bruh
some good stuff?

Always, and good ones, but that is what I actually believe will happen if they fight. A combination of the lack of speed by Jones and distance management/precision/timing/power by Alex
Tom tho, I believe he beats Alex

 

[Streeter]

Dumbest fight for the UFC to make and a fight no one other than JBJ nut govblers want and maybe filthy casuals.

Poatan has super suspect ground game and would likely lose faster than Gane.

Alex would lose to prime DC, Randy, Tito, Arona, Randleman, Babalu, Bader, Davis, Rashad and maybe Shogun.

Pretty much loses to anyone with good takedowns who actually uses said take downs

No . He loses to some of those . Not all or even half

 

[BowserJr]

No . He loses to some of those . Not all or even half

Nah. I only see him beating Randleman, Tito and Babalu maybe. And shogun cuz Shogun wasn't the best td artist

 

[JKS]

Exactly!

Ducked the whole HW division from 2013-2020

Then ducked Francis and Tom lol

Why didn't Francis take the Jones fight when it was offered to him?? The one and only time the Jones/Frnacis fight was actually offered, with a date, contract and Francis declined while Jones accepted.

Jon had no obligation to move up to HW, he was doing just fine building a legacy at LHW.

 

[JKS]

The fight will be hyped and a huge build up. But it will be very underwhelming. Jones will get a TD and finish the fight on the ground rather quickly. He's a far far better wrestler and grappler to the level its not comparable or competitive. And he's the bigger guy here.

Jones TKO round 1

 

[BowserJr]

Why didn't Francis take the Jones fight when it was offered to him?? The one and only time the Jones/Frnacis fight was actually offered, with a date, contract and Francis declined while Jones accepted.

Jon had no obligation to move up to HW, he was doing just fine building a legacy at LHW.

There was and has been no one compelling at LHW for Jones. Even before his arguable losses to Reyes and Santos.

Francis set his terms and it wasn't even about the money. He didnt ask for anything more than what UFC has done before. Meanwhile Jones priced himself out.

 

[JKS]

There was and has been no one compelling at LHW for Jones. Even before his arguable losses to Reyes and Santos.

Francis set his terms and it wasn't even about the money. He didnt ask for anything more than what UFC has done before. Meanwhile Jones priced himself out.

Reyes certainly was and he proved it in a very competitive fight. Jon moved up when he felt it was right.

There were several terms he asked for that wasn't part of a standard contract. And the boxing thing, just cause they let Conor play in a once in a life time means nothing regarding letting Francis box. There was not one good point to let Francis box. Conor vs Floyd made sense for the UFC while letting Francis box didn't. And you can see how that screwed PFL over now.

Jones kept re-negotiating his contract 2021 onwards to the point he was happy. The UFC gave him the contract he was happy with and he agreed to the Francis fight. Francis on the other hand left the UFC.

While I certainly dont think Francis ducked, I think he just dind't like the terms and got a better deal elsewhere. But there is no reason to call Jon a duck vs Francis. It was a massive fight and Jon knew the value and that he needed the right terms. He waited and the time was right he agreed to the fight.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Why didn't Francis take the Jones fight when it was offered to him?? The one and only time the Jones/Frnacis fight was actually offered, with a date, contract and Francis declined while Jones accepted.

Jon had no obligation to move up to HW, he was doing just fine building a legacy at LHW.

why did jones negotiate for a ton of money to fight francis which the UFC did not give him but all of sudden he was ready to take a lower amount to fight gane. Funny how he only wants to negotiate for more money when he's fighting someone with ko power like ngannou or aspinall, but with gane he doesn't care

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Can't wait for the neckbeard tears AND the cope of "Ankalaev isn't a real wrestler, look at the stats!" from the same people praising him as some kind of hero.

 

[JKS]

why did jones negotiate for a ton of money to fight francis which the UFC did not give him but all of sudden he was ready to take a lower amount to fight gane. Funny how he only wants to negotiate for more money when he's fighting someone with ko power like ngannou or aspinall, but with gane he doesn't care

Come on, are you really going to argue that Francis and Gane are the same level of a fight?? It's not the danger but the demand and revenues it generates.

Gane is just another top HW, Francis on the other hand was very well known and a star. Jon negotiated for more money because it was a much bigger fight and it would generate far more revenues for the UFC, Jon being part of that fight only wanted his share. It's all about the demand of the right, Francis and Aspinal are fights the UFC really want and wanted to make and Jon took advantage of that.

Jon actually renegiated his 8 fight deal that he signed in 2020, he kept the same # of fights but just had his % changed and increased. And he did care, vs Gane he got paid very well, he negotiated for more money for that fight as well.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Come on, are you really going to argue that Francis and Gane are the same level of a fight?? It's not the danger but the demand and revenues it generates.

Gane is just another top HW, Francis on the other hand was very well known and a star. Jon negotiated for more money because it was a much bigger fight and it would generate far more revenues for the UFC, Jon being part of that fight only wanted his share. It's all about the demand of the right, Francis and Aspinal are fights the UFC really want and wanted to make and Jon took advantage of that.

Jon actually renegiated his 8 fight deal that he signed in 2020, he kept the same # of fights but just had his % changed and increased. And he did care, vs Gane he got paid very well, he negotiated for more money for that fight as well.

I think it's both, he is nervous to fight against someone with insane power like aspinall or ngannou, and he also thinks those are bigger fights that he deserves to be paid more for. However, your original post implied that ngannou was the one who didn't want to fight Jon even though there is implication that jones is scared of big punchers like ngannou or tom