I give DDP the edge against Khamzat

[snaportap21]

Khamzat seems dive straight for the ankles if you're a known striker. It would be interesting how he would attack DDP because DDP is strong as fuck and a really good grappler.

People forget already??? DDP wrecked Whittaker just as bad He just beat up Whittaker on the feet before strangling him

DDP did not beat Whittaker just as bad as Khamzat did. Whittaker was able to mount some offense and even take DDP down. Rob couldn't land a punch on Khamzat. Khamzat's performance is leagues above DDP's performance against Rob. You can't really say DDP wrecked him as badly as Khamzat did.

 

[mister piscadinha]

Ddp is a known gasser too. Atleast ddp has later finishes but he doesn't have consistent cardio. Most people try and act like you just survive round 1 with Khamzat and you get an easy fight afterwards. Most the time the guy on top has gravity + his body weight and grip which will tire the person out on bottom. Wrestlers rarely have bad cardio.

ddp went five hard rounds with strickland, four with izzy mixing up striking and grappling
even if you think he's a gasser, he's nowhere near chimaev, who gassed hard in both fights that have gone past the first round

 

[mister piscadinha]

DDP did not beat Whittaker just as bad as Khamzat did. Whittaker was able to mount some offense and even take DDP down. Rob couldn't land a punch on Khamzat. Khamzat's performance is leagues above DDP's performance against Rob. You can't really say DDP wrecked him as badly as Khamzat did.

that means nothing
ddp vs whittaker was a striking match, if chimaev tried to strike with whittaker he would've been ko'ed
when ddp decided to grapple, he took whittaker down faster than chimaev

 

[KamalaForever]

I think Khamzat might win this with his superior wrestling

 

[Oscar Madison]

ALL Fight Fans should want this Fight.

 

[snaportap21]

that means nothing
ddp vs whittaker was a striking match, if chimaev tried to strike with whittaker he would've been ko'ed
when ddp decided to grapple, he took whittaker down faster than chimaev

Rob and DDP were even on takedowns that fight. You said "DDP wrecked Whittaker just as bad" he absolutely did not. Getting taken down by Rob, and having Rob land over 30 strikes on you with over half being head shots is not wrecking an opponent as much as an individual who didn't take a single punch or give up a single takedown and finished Rob in the 1st round. You're just flat out wrong on this one.

 

[mister piscadinha]

Brunson also got swept and taken down by ddp. Khamzat has yet to face a wrestler as big and as good as brunson, unless you count old man short notice usman with shot knees who hadn't used wrestling to win fights for years.

Not sure why people use the brunson performance against DDP. If anything, ddp showed he can more than handle big ass wrestlers

brunson, the guy that took romero down is being used as a way to downplay dricus, lmao

chimaev hasnt faced a single good wrestler in his prime yet

 

[mister piscadinha]

Rob and DDP were even on takedowns that fight. You said "DDP wrecked Whittaker just as bad" he absolutely did not. Getting taken down by Rob, and having Rob land over 30 strikes on you with over half being head shots is not wrecking an opponent as much as an individual who didn't take a single punch or give up a single takedown and finished Rob in the 1st round. You're just flat out wrong on this one.

he did, infact wreck whittaker just as bad, if not worse
he did it on whittaker's terms, striking
and yeah, they went 1-1 on takedowns but that aint the whole story is it?
dricus got up in ten seconds, whittaker could do NOTHING with dricus on top of him
stayed there getting punched until the round ended
chimaev won by a borderline fluke injury, ddp ended whittaker's prime at his own game
there's levels

 

[Snazyrazy]

Khamzat proved me very, very wrong vs Rob.
So I can be wrong in this take, too.

It's a pretty simple one: Dricus is even stronger, I'd say quite stronger than Khamzat.
Strong enough, and with good enough wrestling and grappling to compensate.

His cardio holds up.

Better striking.

U left out the speed and swiftness. People get too caught up in khamzats strength. He's a wolverine, not a bear. I don't think khamzats wrestling requires a clear strength advantage to work. Its the speed and flow that sets him apart, he was 3-4 steps ahead of Whittaker in the whole exchange.

Khamzat is 110% way faster than DDP, especially in the first round. I can see him running (or maybe more climbing) circles around him.

That being said, 60/40 Khamzat.

 

[snaportap21]

he did, infact wreck whittaker just as bad, if not worse
he did it on whittaker's terms, striking
and yeah, they went 1-1 on takedowns but that aint the whole story is it?
dricus got up in ten seconds, whittaker could do NOTHING with dricus on top of him
stayed there getting punched until the round ended
chimaev won by a borderline fluke injury, ddp ended whittaker's prime at his own game
there's levels

Nope. DDP got hit way too much to make what he did comparable to Khamzat. And borderline fluke injury? an rnc over the jaw is meant to target the jaw. try harder with the trolling.

 

[mister piscadinha]

Nope. DDP got hit way too much to make what he did comparable to Khamzat. And borderline fluke injury? an rnc over the jaw is meant to target the jaw. try harder with the trolling.

whittaker landed like what? 3 punches against dricus?

 

[Celeron]

Khamzat proved me very, very wrong vs Rob.
So I can be wrong in this take, too.

It's a pretty simple one: Dricus is even stronger, I'd say quite stronger than Khamzat.
Strong enough, and with good enough wrestling and grappling to compensate.

His cardio holds up.

Better striking.

How do you know DDP is stronger or quite stronger when no one has ever outmuscled Khamzat before?

 

[NicholasJBasile]

I just don't feel we've seen enough evidence of high level takedown defense from DDP for me to favor him over Khamzat.

 

[geardo]

Nah I’m sorry, I don’t see DDP winning this. Khamzat is a different animal. And I think we’re about to witness him turn a corner and finally enter his prime phase. Khamzat is about to be the next long reigning MW champ imo.

 

[Pious Augustus]

Khamzat proved me very, very wrong vs Rob.
So I can be wrong in this take, too.

It's a pretty simple one: Dricus is even stronger, I'd say quite stronger than Khamzat.
Strong enough, and with good enough wrestling and grappling to compensate.

His cardio holds up.

Better striking.

"quite stronger" based on what exactly?

 

[snaportap21]

whittaker landed like what? 3 punches against dricus?

as I said, troll harder. btw it’s not that I dislike ddp. i picked him to beat izzy, and he’s one of the most exciting fighters in the ufc even if he is a bit unorthodox. let’s just call a spade a spade, though. his performance against Whittaker wasn’t as impressive as Khamzat’s.

 

[Iamwill43119]

Khamzat proved me very, very wrong vs Rob.
So I can be wrong in this take, too.

It's a pretty simple one: Dricus is even stronger, I'd say quite stronger than Khamzat.
Strong enough, and with good enough wrestling and grappling to compensate.

His cardio holds up.

Better striking.

his wrestling isn't good enough. DDP is not that great of a fighter tbh and neither is Strickland. both get tapped within 2 rounds pretty easily

 

[Tweak896]

ddp went five hard rounds with strickland, four with izzy mixing up striking and grappling
even if you think he's a gasser, he's nowhere near chimaev, who gassed hard in both fights that have gone past the first round

Khamzat's output in Burns fight went up every round in their fight. He has plenty of grappling fights on YouTube against bigger guys where he doesn't gas and give up. Against Usman he had an injury but still took him down every round. I don't think this fight is coming down to gassing.