Gaethje vs (Max Holloway / Tony Ferguson)

[markg171]

You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Tony was the one who was scheduled to fight Khabib not Justin. Tony had already cut weight then did it a week later. All those excuses you made lol, not once did he cheat. Look at the face of every opponent mentioned after the fight.


Wahhh he lost a few rounds during his 12 fight win streak that means he sucks. You don’t get lucky 12 times in a row

Justin took the fight on April 6th when it was still scheduled for April 18th. It didn't move to May 9th until 3 days after Justin had been preparing for April 18th.

Justin had 3 days of thinking he needed to make weight in a week's time.

Justin cut twice.

All those excuses you made lol, not once did he cheat

Illegal upkicks, eyepokes, and shots after the bell aren't cheating apparently. Fascinating.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about and really shouldn't be telling others they don't know things.

 

[Substance Abuse]

wtf are you slow? That’s exactly what dominance is

 

[ipowerslapmywife]

Winning 12 straight isn’t dominant. 9 finishes out of 12 fights.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Winning 12 straight isn’t dominant. 9 finishes out of 12 fights.

I agree with his sentiment that you can go on a long run without being dominant.

 

[ipowerslapmywife]

I agree with his sentiment that you can go on a long run without being dominant.

Idk I think constant winning without taking a loss is dominant. Even the most dominant fighters have close fights, jones had several close fights he didn’t look dominant in for instance.

 

[HHJ]

Blessed gon get fucked up

 

[wolffanghameha]

Justin took the fight on April 6th when it was still scheduled for April 18th. It didn't move to May 9th until 3 days after Justin had been preparing for April 18th.

Justin had 3 days of thinking he needed to make weight in a week's time.

Justin cut twice.

When people say Tony cut twice, they mean he cut all the way to the 155lb title weight (which he posted on social media), including dehydrating his body and brain. Justin on April 6th had 12 days until the fight, or 11 days before weigh-in. The cutting of water weight is usually in the 5 days before weigh-in.

 

[Kb7]

Justin took the fight on April 6th when it was still scheduled for April 18th. It didn't move to May 9th until 3 days after Justin had been preparing for April 18th.

Justin had 3 days of thinking he needed to make weight in a week's time.

Justin cut twice.

Illegal upkicks, eyepokes, and shots after the bell aren't cheating apparently. Fascinating.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about and really shouldn't be telling others they don't know things.

No, Justin did not cut weight twice. Weight cuts usually start the week of weight in IE:Sunday or Monday where the fighter water loads and lowers caloric intake & fluid intake into the night before weight ins where the actual "weight cut" starts. Justin probably training and just watching his diet before the bout was cancelled.

 

[big franklin]

It's unbelievable that this comparison is being made.

I understand the similarities:

Both are tall and lanky.
Holloway had a 13-fight winning streak
Ferguson had a 12-fight winning streak

Style-wise, attributes-wise, achievement wise, and level-wise, they are worlds apart.

Max Holloway has faced and beaten Champions + the absolute best of his division for many years,
Only Volk has beaten Holloway, in the FW Division, for the past decade.

Tony Ferguson only faced perennial contenders and gatekeepers, losing too many of them. He has never beaten a Champion.
Tony Ferguson has lost to 7 gatekeepers and UFC washouts in the LW division in same past decade.

Attributes-wise, Max Holloway has an outstanding chin, he's never been dropped, and has outstanding fundamentals.
Meanwhile, Tony Ferguson never had a good chin, has been dropped many times. and never had good fundamentals.
Yet Gaethje couldn't even drop Ferguson.

Meanwhile Holloway has never been dropped, ever, so I'm not sure why so many people think Gaethje is going to be able to drop him, when he couldn't even drop Ferguson, when many others already had.

Conclusion:
While Max Holloway doesn't have is a lot of power, he more than makes up for that with speed, volume, pressure, consistent fundamentals, has terrific stamina, and balls.
He also has the ability to make people miss.

Meanwhile, Gaethje has a lot of holes in his game (he overextends, loads up, gets tired, etc.)

Gaethje has lost a lot fistfights, Max has hardly lost any.

IMO, only the weight class difference makes this a competitive in my opinion. Max would eat him up at the FW.

You make a good point about Tony.