Aspinall doesn't have one important trait Jones have

They aren't retroactive rankings, it's what they're ranked right now. YOU want a retroactive ranking for Stipe to pretend it was a good win because he was artificially kept in even at #8 for promotion despite having 0 wins over any active fighter on the roster, and no wins at all in over 4 years.
Saying Tom has a win over #3, which is Volkov, when Tom beat Volkov when he was #6 at the time is in fact retroactively ranking Tom’s opponents for him.

While here you are admitting that you refused to give Stipe the actual #8 ranking he held.

Nice try pal.
 
Comparing a broken toe to a blown knee. Someone come get your donkey, he's made an account on the karate boards and types surprisingly well
 
Saying Tom has a win over #3, which is Volkov, when Tom beat Volkov when he was #6 at the time is in fact retroactively ranking Tom’s opponents for him.

While here you are admitting that you refused to give Stipe the actual #8 ranking he held.

Nice try pal.
Great, then bump Pavlovich up to the #2 he was at the time, and Jon still pulled a senior citizen out of retirement who hadn't won a fight in over 4 years and immediately retired again after. Was anybody supposed to be impressed by a title defense over the #8 even if it wasn't just keeping him blatantly propped in the rankings?

Take your pick, he either got first round finishes over #2, 4 and 6, or it's 3,4,5, and Jon still only has 1 top 5 win.
 
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MMA is more than boxing though which is why Jon is a kick-boxer instead of a boxer because having great kicks is important too and helps him nullify all these boxing focused guys. Jon is better than Tom at that which leaves him the better striker. As well as the better grappler.

If Tom’s winning this it’s because Jon’s 38.

Sure, Jon has a nice all around striking game and very good kicks. But in MMA, 80% of the strikes are hand strikes. And there is a very distinct skill gap in the boxing level and the speed and power here. I think even if Jon lands some good kicks, it still wont overcome the advantage Tom will have. Jon was able to get away with it vs Gus and Reyes, but I think at HW the power and size will be the difference.

And like you mentioned the age, which is among the main reasons why I think Tom will in by finish. Jon is not the same Jon as years ago.
 
Jon also hasn't been submitted, unlike Tom <Wendy2>


That’s a bad look. He completely gave up and sat there waiting for him to wrench it. Hopefully he’s grown since then.

Meanwhile, white belt Jones refused to get tapped by black belt TRT Vitor. The mental fortitude of this guy is unreal.

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Then submitted black belt TRT Vitor in the end.

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What was that from Aspinall?
This Jones would toy with Aspinall. Not the current Jones though.
 
Sure, Jon has a nice all around striking game and very good kicks. But in MMA, 80% of the strikes are hand strikes. And there is a very distinct skill gap in the boxing level and the speed and power here.
This is just wrong. There's a gap in boxing offense, sure, but Jones's boxing defense is absolutely elite, and his jab is highly effective in combination with his kicks at managing distance. What makes this fight interesting is precisely that no one really knows for sure how the elite MMA boxing offense of Aspinall vs. the elite MMA boxing defense of Jones will play out since both fighters are so much better at those relative strengths than any other competition either has faced. Now if the Jones from the Gus 1 fight shows up - the only version of Jones to ever take meaningful cumulative boxing damage in the cage - Aspinall would have an easy time of it, but that was pretty clearly and by a wide margin the worst version of Jones since the Bonnar fight.
 
It is obvious Aspinall isn't God's favorite.
 
It'll react the same way it did to Gane. Exactly.

Gane was Tom before Tom was Tom, in terms of what people said he'd do to Jones.

Tom may have better chances, I certainly think so, but I guarantee if he lost to Jones he'd be in that same "never that good anyway" boat.
No actually next to no one thought Gane had a chance. Most of us were calling it a farse
 
Jones beating Aspinall and retiring as the unarguable GOAT immediately after will be the greatest meltdown in sherdog history
 
Great, then bump Pavlovich up to the #2 he was at the time, and Jon still pulled a senior citizen out of retirement who hadn't won a fight in over 4 years and immediately retired again after. Was anybody supposed to be impressed by a title defense over the #8 even if it wasn't just keeping him blatantly propped in the rankings?

Take your pick, he either got first round finishes over #2, 4 and 6, or it's 3,4,5, and Jon still only has 1 top 5 win.
So no, nobody higher than #1 Gane you refused to give Jon while meanwhile making up fake ranks for Tom?

Okay pal
 
you making an argument about DC giving Jon problems due to his size is fucking asinine. DC is one of the smallest HWs ever.
Yet, he cruised through Strikeforce and UFC's HW dropping fighters twice his size like toddlers until the rematch with Stipe (was in his 40s)

He's certainly not small, everyone described DC as a brick shithouse when they met him.

One example here is Fedor who fought HW all his life but got dropped by Henderson and there was barely any size difference.
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Compared to DC who made him look small.
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That’s a bad look. He completely gave up and sat there waiting for him to wrench it. Hopefully he’s grown since then.


This Jones would toy with Aspinall. Not the current Jones though.
Context is important here.

The nerve of a 25 years old white belt who did this against black belt TRT Vitor who had a reputation of decapitating opponents.

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Compared to Aspinall who pillow fisted a noname who didn't appear hurt and managed to think of a way to overcome it. <suzylol>
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Think what Jones would do if that was him? He's gonna be making sure they aren't going to come out unscathed.
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Even now for a 37 years old, his GnP game is still strong.
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He's fighting in the same division as Jones and he's #1 himself with first round finishes over #3,4, 5, 7 and 8, while Jon has 1 win over an active fighter and then fought a senior citizen he pulled out of retirement. Aspinall's HW resume is better than Jon's by quite a lot.
Gane had a better resume than current Aspinall before he got clowned. Let's not talk about Jones decade long feats and comparing to Aspinall's whose only feat was downing opponents who weren't contender worthy.
 
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Yet, he cruised through Strikeforce and UFC's HW dropping fighters twice his size like toddlers until the rematch with Stipe (was in his 40s)

He's certainly not small, everyone described DC as a brick shithouse when they met him.

One example here is Fedor who fought HW all his life but got dropped by Henderson and there was barely any size difference.
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Compared to DC who made him look small.
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Context is important here.

The nerve of a 25 years old white belt who did this against black belt TRT Vitor who had a reputation of decapitating opponents.

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Compared to Aspinall who pillow fisted a noname who didn't appear hurt and managed to think of a way to overcome it. <suzylol>
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Think what Jones would do if that was him? He's gonna be making sure they aren't going to come out unscathed.
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Even now for a 37 years old, his GnP game is still strong.
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And Jones subbed Hendo but you left that out eh
 
Gane had a better resume than current Aspinall before he got clowned. Let's not talk about Jones decade long feats and comparing to Aspinall's whose only feat was downing opponents who weren't contender worthy.
Aspinall is the next big thing until he takes his… 4th loss.

Oh
 
Gane had a better resume than current Aspinall before he got clowned. Let's not talk about Jones decade long feats and comparing to Aspinall's whose only feat was downing opponents who weren't contender worthy.
Lol, yeah, getting wrestlefucked by a striker and dropped by Tai Tuivasa in the year before Jones handpicked him to immediately take down was real scary.

Gane is a good point striker who doesn't have 1 punch KO power or any grappling skill who Jones picked after his grappling got exposed. Tom's a BJJ black belt who's bigger, faster and has been KOing half the top 5 in like a minute.

Lol at being shameless enough to claim the interim champ Jones is scared of who's cleared out the top 5 hasn't "earned it", but the 90 year old man he dug up with 0 wins over any active fighter did earn it. Sad.
 
One particular reason why I believes Jones will win because of the mentality difference between the two. Jones have shown to be extremely resilient and a tough nut to crack.

He fought with a broken toe but it didn't stop him from giving up and won the fight.



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Compared to Aspinall who folded after landing a kick.



On top of that, he bull rushed, went straight to Blaydes and fought recklessly that led to his injury.

His knees, hip and eye orbital will be gone if he bull rushes and gets inside Jones like that.

Jones opponents who fought recklessly have said they received devastating injuries and was never the same afterward.








Edit - Post #18 to reinforce my argument

Not only will Jones not win, he won't ever even fight Tom. Jon knows he'll lose even when you don't.
 
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