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The be perfectly honest in the early 80s when the US government started borrowing from SS our leaders at the time should have been tried for Treason. The nations SS was not their piggy bank regardless of how much they may have thought they needed it to pull us out of the economic shithole we were in during the 70s
Is Elon Musk actually going to f#ck with Americans’ social security?
yes..he is gonna interfere with you cashing your dead grandmother's check.
You make a great point. Thanks for reminding me there's some upside to it all. It's not all dark clouds and frowny faces.Look, losing SS might suck but it's a small price to pay to keep some dude off a girls high school volleyball team in rural Iowa or somewhere.
I’m good, but thanks.That’s you saving accordingly.
Most aren’t.I’m good, but thanks.
My favorite is my former employer that as standard practice would take out life insurance policies on employees.I read a thing a while back about businesses wanting to do this with employee retirement funds (I forget in which form the money was, I wanna say 401k), where the company would be able to use it for investment purposes. Which also would mean they could lose all your money and then do all their legal maneuvering to not have to pay it back.
That sounds awful until you recognize that SS pays out more than $1.5 trillion a year. Lots of room for improvement, but less than 1% error rate for a program of that scale is pretty good, by public or private standards. You don't seem to grasp the scales (trillions vs billions) involved here. Or the trade offs that come between assuring accuracy vs diminishing returns.Even MSNBC is now recognizing there's a problem, in a bit of a stunning report. They acknowledge that there had been $71.8 billion in improper Social Security payments over eight years, which had been discovered by the inspector general in 2024. That's billion, not million. ....
Hence the need for a government funded pension like SS.Most aren’t.
No, that's called a taxpayer funded pension doofus. You don't even know what you need.Hence the need for a government funded pension like SS.
My favorite is my former employer that as standard practice would take out life insurance policies on employees.
That sounds awful until you recognize that SS pays out more than $1.5 trillion a year. Lots of room for improvement, but less than 1% error rate for a program of that scale is pretty good, by public or private standards. You don't seem to grasp the scales (trillions vs billions) involved here. Or the trade offs that come between assuring accuracy vs diminishing returns.
Private equity gonna private equity unfortunately. One of my pet theories is I suspect Trump's supporters disproportionately do not work in corporate America. They only know the myth of business efficiency, and are much less familiar with the kind of waste and bad decisions that go on there. Or for that matter, good decisions and good business practices. Instead, they only see Musk or random CEOs and think they must be the gold standard, without stopping to think if Musk is following best practices.I know an attorney in South Dakota who told me this would become a slave Nation again. When people share things like this I believe it.
I don't think the wealthy/donor class see us as human beings. They see us as resources, commodities. And they don't want to pay market price for our labor. They want minimum investment/cost and maximum return.