Social Elon Musk: 'Hateful unrepentant racists’ must be removed from Republican Party

[Sweater of AV]

Our girl is having a meltdown. You love to see it.

 

[Sweater of AV]

There's few things more entertaining than when a serial reactionary points out that reacting is silly.

The moment he sees something he doesn't like that hits close to home he loses his mind and goes off the rails.

I doubt he's ever actually discussed anything beyond "you're a retard" and "get a life."

 

[calavera2]

Sure it does. This Country has subsidized sh*tty, fraudulent, business people with taxpayer money, and a media system that idol worships them long enough.

Time to let them fail if they cannot afford the resources they need rather than subjugating perceived underclass so they can get free labor AND afford that 3rd super yacht.

Nice fantasy...the billionaire class like Elon just bought themselves a government rigging scheme to their liking...the shithead is mouthing off with impunity. The voting class are clapping like retarded seals...merit/deserve/right/wrong has little to do with what is happening

 

[Tatra]

There's few things more entertaining than when a serial reactionary points out that reacting is silly.

I'm pointing out the the left's ridiculous overreaction to the whole thing. It's a non-event but you're making it out to be something it's not. I think it just tells us how much pain you were/are in from Trump winning. Like I said: it's not normal to have this kind of reaction to something like this.

If you had a life, you wouldn't find this entertaining at all. But according to you, there's "few things more entertaining". It's pathetic.

Now make sure to give me a laughing reaction like you always do, in the hopes you'll convince at least someone you're not raging, like you always are.

 

[Tatra]

The moment he sees something he doesn't like that hits close to home he loses his mind and goes off the rails.

I doubt he's ever actually discussed anything beyond "you're a retard" and "get a life."

The meltdown continues. You're just making stuff up now. lol

 

[Sweater of AV]

Our girl is having a meltdown. You love to see it.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Did we really need 3 of these "civil" war threads?

They’ve got their orders.

 

[Sinister]

Nice fantasy...the billionaire class like Elon just bought themselves a government rigging scheme to their liking...the shithead is mouthing off with impunity. The voting class are clapping like retarded seals...merit/deserve/right/wrong has little to do with what is happening

You're in a thread about how its virally blowing up in his face so hard he is losing political allies and banning high profile accounts of the political side he cuddled with.

 

[nostradumbass]

Engineers specifically, perhaps, but if we extend this to tech jobs as a whole, this is absolutely not correct as tech has been laying off workers for 2 years straight.

If we limit H1-Bs to very specifically high need jobs with low total caps, I think I could be on board with you.




Right, but initially you were comparing H1-B visas (~1,000) to Tesla jobs as a whole (120-140k), not Tesla engineer jobs, so total STEM jobs felt like a more apt comparison.

Your other position that "Americans have more engineering jobs due to amount of viable businesses, therefore we require more than others" is a good take imo and I'm not going to try to find a disagreement to what I think is a valid point.




Yeah, I think the government should make rules to benefit the workers not the corporations, at this point in Capitalism.

And if Tesla doesn't like it and they want to take their business overseas, they can pay exorbitant amounts of tariffs for doing so.

I think you might read that as a cheeky shot at Republicans, but I actually mean it with 100% sincerity as that's kinda the Trump approach, right?

That was my first post in the thread, but it doesn't really apply to engineering where there is an actual shortage.

They definitely need to clean up the H-1B system to avoid some companies taking advantage by trying to hire foreign labor for $35-40k/year jobs, but engineers have like under 2% unemployment, and the few who aren't employed are mostly just unwilling to move to where they could get a job. There is a pretty big engineer shortage, so the people pretending there is no need to hire engineers from elsewhere obviously just don't know what they're talking about.

There is also a lot of space in between benefit workers and intentionally driving industries out of the country because they cannot operate here. If you're going to pick an area to stand up for "the workers", probably start a little lower than engineers who already make double the median household income and have almost nonexistent unemployment.

Tesla is also not the only company that employs engineers, and they are already pay more than most for engineers.

the shit that mighta sounded halfway reasonable will go to all out xenophobia, that's what I was worried about in the first place. It can happen, even here in the US. I think eventually it will, I'm talking civil wars and huge civil unrest but thats not what we'll see in the near future, I think we'll just see a lot of ugliness that starts out with illegals, goes to asylum seekers and as we see already, it's actually directed at the cream of the crop. Americans don't take kindly to hearing, "we don't need YOU, we need THEM" because they are so much better. But wierd, scary times.

Nah, you can look around and see that it's mostly left wingers pretending to have a problem, and Laura Loomer who's just a troll. There are 3 threads on the first page, all by left wingers, and almost all the posts in them pretending to have a huge problem with H-1B visas are just left wingers desperate for something to complain about. It's the same people who supported completely open borders when it's gang members and welfare dependents coming across by the millions, and now pretend to be deeply concerned with 85,000 engineers working legally because it's just desperation for some conflict.

In reality, it's a big no to illegals because I think we're all set for gang members and welfare recipients, but a yes to filling shortages of high skilled people who not only can support themselves, but also pay more in taxes than they use in benefits, and we can revisit the issue or adjust the number if and when more Americans start getting engineering degrees and the unemployment rate for engineers gets near the general unemployment rate.

 

[Soggust]

That was my first post in the thread, but it doesn't really apply to engineering where there is an actual shortage.


There is also a lot of space in between benefit workers and intentionally driving industries out of the country because they cannot operate here.

I think you are overselling the "almost nonexistent" unemployment for software engineers. I'm in tech, so again, perhaps I'm just biased by being too close to the stove but I know they have cut a lot of jobs in the last few years, including engineers. I also know that a lot of former software engineers are now underemployed in lesser roles and a lot of the better ones left to start their own companies or retired after being forced to RTO or after being let go due to high salaries.

These don't show up in the employment numbers, which I'm having trouble finding anything recent.

That was also after a historically bad 2022 and 2023

• 2023 was, indeed, historic as the first year since Y2K when the number of software engineering jobs shrunk. Growth has resumed this year, but it’s at least possible that a long-term flattening of the growth curve is emerging.

• Since 2022, growth has slowed to levels not seen since 2001-2004
  
  

If you're going to pick an area to stand up for "the workers", probably start a little lower than engineers who already make double the median household income and have almost nonexistent unemployment.

Fuck that.

Companies want sr level talent without hiring or investing in training and developing juniors and so they instead want to outsource it. I would rather see companies develop American talent.

I propose we put a pause on all H1-Bs until "we can figure out what the hell is going on" (that one is a cheeky shot at Republicans lol).

we can revisit the issue or adjust the number if and when more Americans start getting engineering degrees and the unemployment rate for engineers gets near the general unemployment rate.

What's the unemployment rate for engineers, specifically? I can't find any concrete, recent numbers because I don't think the BLS breaks it down like that. The site I quoted earlier on state of SWEs used a paid research firm.

 

[DoctorNick]

Leave the street-shitting as well

I want the freedom to shit on the sidewalk! USA!

 

[Satsui Ryu]

It's wild that when it comes to policy we're hearing more from Elon and Vivek than the actual president to be. And watching the people who voted for Trump squirm at what has transpired even before he has been inaugurated is even more hilarious.

I haven't seen this much of a double cross since Hulk Hogan dropped the leg on the Macho Man.

 

[nostradumbass]

I think you are overselling the "almost nonexistent" unemployment for software engineers. I'm in tech, so again, perhaps I'm just biased by being too close to the stove but I know they have cut a lot of jobs in the last few years, including engineers. I also know that a lot of former software engineers are now underemployed in lesser roles and a lot of the better ones left to start their own companies or retired after being forced to RTO or after being let go due to high salaries.

These don't show up in the employment numbers, which I'm having trouble finding anything recent.

That was also after a historically bad 2022 and 2023

• 2023 was, indeed, historic as the first year since Y2K when the number of software engineering jobs shrunk. Growth has resumed this year, but it’s at least possible that a long-term flattening of the growth curve is emerging.
• Since 2022, growth has slowed to levels not seen since 2001-2004
  

Fuck that.

Companies want sr level talent without hiring or investing in training and developing juniors and so they instead want to outsource it. I would rather see companies develop American talent.

I propose we put a pause on all H1-Bs until "we can figure out what the hell is going on" (that one is a cheeky shot at Republicans lol).





What's the unemployment rate for engineers, specifically? I can't find any concrete, recent numbers because I don't think the BLS breaks it down like that. The site I quoted earlier on state of SWEs used a paid research firm.

Tesla already do have a training program called Tesla START, but it's for technicians because they obviously can't replace a masters in engineering with a 12 week training programs.

The US Needs More Engineers. What’s the Solution?

A sustained, coordinated, and multipronged approach involving both public and private sector players is the single best way to ensure a continuous supply of skilled professionals.

www.bcg.com

 

[filthybliss]

When the billionaire that believes in antisemitic great replacement theory says that your movement has a racism problem. You got some soul searching to do lol

 

[PEB]

Pulled the video.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Did we really need 3 of these "civil" war threads?

Well TS and her sisters promised to shave their heads and not share their retched holes with men for the next four years! So they’re a little on edge