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Why is Tom #8 pfp?

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I mean, the concept of pfp is more philosophical when it comes to lighter guys like Islam. It's not realistic. It is a ohh if Islam had that size and that ability, he could... It's just a, idk, way to show who seems more dominant overall, even knowing that Islam Makhachev would get totally destroyed by Alex Pereira and Jon Jones.... And Tom Aspinall, and Jiri Prochazka... And DDP too, you name it.

But Alex Pereira is #3 and JJ is #2 ... Why is Tom Aspinall #8? If he's the most likely guy to take on JJ, why #8? It doesn't matter if he's fighting in HW, because so is JJ. So if Tom Aspinall and JJ is the biggest fight, then Tom should be way closer to JJ than Alex Pereira... The ranking means pretty much that Jon Jones would have a harder time going to LHW and defeating Alex than defeating Tom.

But that's not the case, right? I mean, whoever does the pfp list is weighing on how Tom Aspinall is very dominant, how he KO'd two monsters there, and all... Tom Aspinall is the biggest threat...

But one knowledgeable MMA nerd and hardcore spectator/fan/follower had once told me --- I don't remember when --- "when fighters of similar weight are very close in the pfp, it means something. Nothing just ever happens in politics, just as in pfp if they are fighters that are the same weight and size, naturally". That's interesting...

I'm starting to weigh in on the possibility that Tom may be having been built up intentionally to a point, as well as Anakalaev, also with odds wise helping it, or Dana too, when saying JJ would pick Alex apart... Just as a way to build up what they seem as pretty much guaranteed as the last fight. But they may want to make more money with events before getting into that biggest of all fights... so maybe ""deceiving"" opinions on who's the toughest for this guys is part of it... Like, to make them have even bigger PPV events, so the final fight is not only even bigger than before, but also, done after the "best" fighters have given as much $ as they wanted...

Idk, I don't even believe this that much, it's more like a sudden thought in this week off that is giving me more free time than I should have lulz... I think that, from a most fact based approach, it may be nonsense, but.... We can only have perceptions shaped by what we see. I think it can be argued or theorized that an organization that still wants ultimately profit, wouldn't want us to see some things they already see.
 
P4P is dumb and meaningless.

Tom would destroy every other fighter on the list with ease.

It's like arguing a dung beetle would destroy a silverback if they were the same size. They aren't the same size and never will be.
 
P4P was created in late 1800s when Bob Fitzsimmons started wrecking fools in three different divisions, so it clearly means P4P is defined by fighter's ability to defeat opponents across weight classes. Makhachev belongs nowhere near P4P. He cuts a ton just to fight tiny 5'3 dudes like Volkanovski.
 
I mean, the concept of pfp is more philosophical when it comes to lighter guys like Islam. It's not realistic. It is a ohh if Islam had that size and that ability, he could... It's just a, idk, way to show who seems more dominant overall, even knowing that Islam Makhachev would get totally destroyed by Alex Pereira and Jon Jones.... And Tom Aspinall, and Jiri Prochazka... And DDP too, you name it.

But Alex Pereira is #3 and JJ is #2 ... Why is Tom Aspinall #8? If he's the most likely guy to take on JJ, why #8? It doesn't matter if he's fighting in HW, because so is JJ. So if Tom Aspinall and JJ is the biggest fight, then Tom should be way closer to JJ than Alex Pereira... The ranking means pretty much that Jon Jones would have a harder time going to LHW and defeating Alex than defeating Tom.

But that's not the case, right? I mean, whoever does the pfp list is weighing on how Tom Aspinall is very dominant, how he KO'd two monsters there, and all... Tom Aspinall is the biggest threat...

But one knowledgeable MMA nerd and hardcore spectator/fan/follower had once told me --- I don't remember when --- "when fighters of similar weight are very close in the pfp, it means something. Nothing just ever happens in politics, just as in pfp if they are fighters that are the same weight and size, naturally". That's interesting...

I'm starting to weigh in on the possibility that Tom may be having been built up intentionally to a point, as well as Anakalaev, also with odds wise helping it, or Dana too, when saying JJ would pick Alex apart... Just as a way to build up what they seem as pretty much guaranteed as the last fight. But they may want to make more money with events before getting into that biggest of all fights... so maybe ""deceiving"" opinions on who's the toughest for this guys is part of it... Like, to make them have even bigger PPV events, so the final fight is not only even bigger than before, but also, done after the "best" fighters have given as much $ as they wanted...

Idk, I don't even believe this that much, it's more like a sudden thought in this week off that is giving me more free time than I should have lulz... I think that, from a most fact based approach, it may be nonsense, but.... We can only have perceptions shaped by what we see. I think it can be argued or theorized that an organization that still wants ultimately profit, wouldn't want us to see some things they already see.
I expect JJ next fight will be that old man Conor hit at the bar for not wanting his whiskey.
 
Yeah someone brought it up, it seems whoever isn't the belt holder isn't given a fair assessment in pfp.
 
No heavyweight should be in a P4P ranking, because P4P was invented to emphasize the skills of smaller fighters who would lose to HWs.

HWs aren't the best, P4P. They are just "the best".
 
No heavyweight should be in a P4P ranking, because P4P was invented to emphasize the skills of smaller fighters who would lose to HWs.

HWs aren't the best, P4P. They are just "the best".

While what you say is correct in theory, it obviously isn't - and shouldn't be - in practice.

P4P is simply a measure of who's more dominant relative to his/her opponents, while taking into account the relative strength of said opponents. And numerous factors like win streaks, and so on.

It's not rocket science. It's not science at all. It's just a feeling.
 
While what you say is correct in theory, it obviously isn't - and shouldn't be - in practice.

P4P is simply a measure of who's more dominant relative to his/her opponents, while taking into account the relative strength of said opponents. And numerous factors like win streaks, and so on.

It's not rocket science. It's not science at all. It's just a feeling.
This is exactly right! Its about how good you are RELATIVE to your weight class. Obviously the smaller guys are always going to have more skills. That doesn't mean anything.
 
No heavyweight should be in a P4P ranking, because P4P was invented to emphasize the skills of smaller fighters who would lose to HWs.

HWs aren't the best, P4P. They are just "the best".
i remember cain velaszquez who has more cardio and can outlast ww fighters
basicaly a gym story
but you have to consider that the man weighs like 240 plus lbs
and is able to do that
 
the pound for pound conversation should go away. it's useless and asinine. means nothing. waste of a conversation
 
It doesn't matter. He will move up when he faces off with Gane. Pfp doesn't do anything for matchmaking or purse.
 
Why is Jones number two with only one relevant win in the past 4 years? Aspinall should be above him.
 
it's based on results and he hasn't fought enough guys yet, resume's still too thin.
 

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