Why are people so high on Umar

[AmonTobin]

Stans for Umar and Jon Jones will tell you why Umar deserves a title shot but Tom Aspinall doesn’t. It’s pretty funny.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

How do you land that many strikes, "beat the shit out of" someone and not either finish them or at least leave them looking butchered by the end of the fight?

The other guy barely looked damaged lol.

Go back and watch the fight. He put a beating on Bekzat.

 

[Clark Rogers]

Not all Dagis are the same, the lineage from Umars family can't be denied and to write it off as dickriding shows your lack of spotting elite talent.

To be fair, family lineage only goes so far in sports.

If who you were fathered by determined your greatness in sport there'd be debates whether Bronny James was going to upend Jeffrey Michael Jordan or Marcus Jordan as GOAT in basketball.

Not saying it doesn't help to have greatness in the family, but it isn't passed on in the genes.

 

[Nintendo 64]

Tomato cans with no wiki pages and he still couldn't finish a lot of them. His only decent win is Sandhagen.

Sandhagen is elite and got beaten decisively by Umar. You can say he got fast tracked, but he also got thrown into the deep end with that fight.

 

[xhaydenx]

Go back and watch the fight. He put a beating on Bekzat.

I already did. He dominated him for sure, but he didn't beat the shit out of him lol.

Closest he came to finishing him was when he got mount briefly and unloaded with some GNP, which was all blocked. Dude got up right after.

 

[cold_spring_harbor]

What? There's only one other guy and he's not even in the UFC. Shit take

I don't khabib it

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

To be fair, family lineage only goes so far in sports.

If who you were fathered by determined your greatness in sport there'd be debates whether Bronny James was going to upend Jeffrey Michael Jordan or Marcus Jordan as GOAT in basketball.

Not saying it doesn't help to have greatness in the family, but it isn't passed on in the genes.

I agree, fighting lineage would have been a better description and it's all passed on via handwork and years of knowledge

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

I already did. He dominated him for sure, but he didn't beat the shit out of him lol.

Closest he came to finishing him was when he got mount briefly and unloaded with some GNP, which was all blocked. Dude got up right after.

That's your opinion and I have mine on the fight.

 

[xhaydenx]

That's your opinion and I have mine on the fight.

Well, yeh, of course, brother.

 

[nostradumbass]

Alex got rushed in both divisions and should have needed more wins, basically I think most the guys you mentioned didn't deserve title shots either however... Dricus beat #10 Till, #5 Brunson and then #2 Whittaker so that's 3 top 10 wins right there. Also Tavares is a better win than anybody Umar has beaten aside from Sandhagen.

Also When did I ever say anything about top 5's? Ranked opponents = top 15 and I don't think you should get to skip over everybody and find number 2 then get a title shot like that.

I can guarantee Leon beat several ranked fighters, how many top 5 guys he beat is something I don't know but that's also irrelevant as I'm talking top 15.

So he was favored to beat the #2 guy, did beat him 50-45 and 49-46, and you're upset because beating the #2 isn't good enough until he proves himself against guys ranked 10-13 spots lower than the guy he just beat after the others already ducked him? The risk you run when your plan is for everyone to collectively refuse to fight someone to freeze them out of the rankings is that everyone has to play along too or you get leapfrogged when he has a better win than all of the guys who refused to fight him and none of the losses.

 

[MMAJunkie]

You seem to be leaving out that Merab himself was the one who refused a title shot earlier because Sterling was champ. He also started out with back to back losses, and the Moraes win aged like milk, and all of his wins were complete snoozers.

Who was the murderer's row O'Malley went through to get his title shot? His only win over a top contender was a robbery split decision with 25/26 media scores for Yan, and a win over Kris Moutinho and a loss to Chito.

People were saying the same thing about Islam.
Not that many people lined up to fight these guys.

 

[TerraRayzing]

Not a Merab fan, think he's arguably the most boring fighter in the sport. I don't like false narratives tho and Sherdog is the #1 place for spreading false narratives. If you listened to people on here you'd think Umar has cleared out the division, dude has fought nobody aside from Sandhagen. I just want title shots to mean something.

Jones should have never gotten a title shot at Heavyweight. 90 year old Stipe who was ko'd in his previous fight and hadn't won in 4 years should not have gotten a title shot. 4 year layoff Cruz who was dominated by Garbrandt should not have gotten a title shot. #10 Steve Erceg and UFC debut Kai Asakura should not have gotten title shots. 90 year old retired Dan Henderson should not have gotten a title shot.

1 ranked opponent Umar should not get a title shot.

How many ranked, top wins did Jones have when he got the lhw title shot?

 

[Iroh]

Exactly. Furthermore, some of the same people demanding the Umar title shot and calling Merab a duck, also defend Jon Jones for not taking the Tom fight, even though this is a complete contradiction. I think some people are absolutely star struck when they see “undefeated”.

Indeed. The persuasive force is stronk in dat 0. Even if, in Jon's case, he clesrly lost to Reyes, they will let the official narrative trump their abilty to fairly and honestly assess the fighter/fight. But obiously they will dispute the Hamill loss.

 

[xhaydenx]

People were saying the same thing about Islam.
Not that many people lined up to fight these guys.

Plenty of people lined up to fight Umar, back when he fighting people around his ranking. He's literally pulled out the same amount of times that he's had finishes in the UFC.

Why would the champ and top ranked guys suddenly want to fight a guy who wasn't ranked and had no ranked wins just because he whined on twitter non-stop?

Is Umar going to be willing to defend that #1 spot he has now against guys ranked 10-15? Would be pretty hypocritical if he didn't.

 

[Superzorro]

Well, he's Dagestani and more importantly related to Khabib. So anything he says is going to be recited by half of the fanbase.

 

[Superzorro]

Stans for Umar and Jon Jones will tell you why Umar deserves a title shot but Tom Aspinall doesn’t. It’s pretty funny.

Stans for Umar are usually fans of Aspinall and haters of Jones.

 

[rjmbrd]

To be fair, family lineage only goes so far in sports.

Not saying it doesn't help to have greatness in the family, but it isn't passed on in the genes.

This is pants on head, hilariously wrong. This is my favorite 'confidently incorrect' of the day.

Genes and Athletic Performance: An Update - PubMed

Humans vary in their ability to achieve success in sports, and this variability mostly depends on genetic factors. The main goal of this work was to review the current progress in the understanding of genetic determinism of athlete status and to describe some novel and important DNA...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Current Progress in Sports Genomics - PubMed

Understanding the genetic architecture of athletic performance is an important step in the development of methods for talent identification in sport. Research concerned with molecular predictors has highlighted a number of potentially important DNA polymorphisms contributing to predisposition to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Genetics and sports performance: the present and future in the identification of talent for sports based on DNA testing - PMC

The impact of genetics on physiology and sports performance is one of the most debated research aspects in sports sciences. Nearly 200 genetic polymorphisms have been found to influence sports performance traits, and over 20 polymorphisms may ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Did you think it was a coincidence that Jon Jones has two brothers who both entered and started in the NFL?

Bronny James was a star high school athlete that went on to be recruited by multiple NCAA Division I programs. Do you not realize how many millions of kids play basketball and cannot attain that level of play? That is exactly what good athletic genetics makes possible.

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

This is hilarious. We can literally copy paste the same arguments from the exact same people 2.5 yrs ago when Islam was in Umar's position. "Why is Islam getting the TS" "Who has Islam beat" "why is he favored over charles?" Do you people never learn lol?

You really comparing Umar to Islam??? But yeah some people did say that. Islam at least had a big win streak and some good wins. He will forever be on my shitlist for beating Oliveira tho. Still pissed about the losing his belt due to the scale bullshit, having to defend in Gaethje's hometown, had to fight Islam in Abu Dhabi... Oliveira is a star and the UFC never saw it..

They wanted Chandler, Dustin, Gaethje and Islam to beat him and never put any stock in him.

 

[legedema]

When did alex get gifted a shot???

Adesanya got a gifted shot against dricus, but all his other shots were earned

well , Alex got his shot to the WW title very fast by beating no names.after he beat Sean he secured his title shot against Izzy

 

[Vigfree]

So why is Umar even ranked #2? The only ranked fighter he has beaten is Sandhagen... Merab is right about Umar having not done enough to get a title shot. Sandhagen is good but that's the only ranked opponent he has fought.

I see so much talk about Merab ducking him but in reality Umar has really not done enough.

Here's the list of ranked opponents Merab beat to get his title shot...
Dodson #12, Stamman #13, Moraes #6, Aldo #3, Yan #2, Cejudo #3...

Here's Umar's list..... Sandhagen #4..... So Umar was ranked #11 despite never fighting a ranked opponent and now is #2 after beating a guy who was ranked #4... UFC is clearly pushing the shit out of him.

Did you watch the Sandhagen fight? Umar looked really good in it. Sandhagen is no joke as well; he can scrap.
Umar has looked really good in all his fights. It's obvious to anyone who is paying attention that Umar is one of the best 135ers. The "who has he beat" analysis never ends. Again, ranked guys don't want to fight down vs a dangerous contender. It's hard for someone like Umar to get fights against ranked opponents.
When Umar did get this big leap up, he convincingly won. At this point if you are doubting him with this type of terrible logic, the problem is with you and not Umar.