Who deserves it more, Morales or Garry

[liner]

I think morales is a future champ no matter who has the belt. I think he deserves the next shot but I don't really care who gets it.

I want to see morales fight more than any other fighter in mma right now. Hes huge for the weight, hes young and still a few years from his prime, grappling background and ko power, and hes a fast twitch athlete. thats scary. In 4 years he'll have beaten everyone at 70, just a matter of what order

 

[Alpha_T83]

Either. I'd be happy if either Morales or Garry fought Islam at UFC 324 or 325, before Ramadan. I just don't want to see Islam sit out and wait until summer 2026 to fight again.

 

[Russie]

Morales is fine with waiting and UFC likely prefers he gets his opportunity later. He though is who I would say deserves it though.

Gary is going to get it. He made his argument for it in the cage on the mic. UFC likes that kind of shit so they will go forward with it.

 

[agibmxmma]

Neither deserve a title shot just yet.. but of the two, Morales does because he has not lost, while Garry has lost recently. Usman doesn't deserve it either, but he probably gets the nod from the UFC because of him being an ex champ, etc etc..

I'd like to see Morales vs Garry, Prates vs Shavkat, Brady vs Covington.

 

[mkt]

Not even close, Garry has beaten two top contenders in Belal and Prates (who he took on a month's notice).

Morales has one good win (Burns is washed, Magny is a gatekeeper) and should fight Shavkat in a no.1 contenders fight.

I agree. I also understand why people would rather see Morales who's more exciting and a more fascinating match-up vs. Islam. But their resumes aren't even close. The MVP win is also pretty impressive for Garry. He's the only guy who's beaten Page in the UFC and one of only 3 career losses for MVP. I'm not sure if Morales could beat Page without using his alleged childhood wrestling/judo background. Page is 3 inches taller with the same reach, and would negate most everything Morales does well in striking. Morales might KO him like Lima did, but I don't see him winning a pure striking fight that goes the distance.

 

[omawho402]

Didn't really think he had fans.

Not many of us on board. I wonder though, if he took more risks would he still be able to win or does he have to play it safe to win?

 

[Senbonzakura]

It should be a WW tourney between: Morales vs Usman and Shavkat vs Garry. Whoever performs the best gets the shot. And put it all on one PLE card as main and co-main.

Paramount+ better deliver lol

 

[fendertach]

As much as I hate Garry I say give it to him before Morales. Not because he deserves it more, but because I think he's an easy win for Islam and I wouldn't mind Morales having a more time to develop and prepare.

 

[ejazahmednit]

Should be Garry
Who he beat matters over how he beat them
Plus he fights way more often and takes all comers

 

[asdf122345]

Morales cause he looks unbeatable so far.

 

[SuperAlly]

Morales resume:
Rd 1 TKO #2 contender Sean Brady
Rd 1 TKO former contender Gilbert Burns
Rd 1 TKO gatekeeper Neil Magny
UD over Matthews
UD over Griffin
19 fight win streek

Garry Resume
UD over #1 contender Belal
Competitive victory over fellow contender Prates
UD over MVP
UD over Magny
SD over Neil
Competitive loss against Shavkat
2 fight win streak

Looking purely at that, Morales

 

[SuperAlly]

Prates lost the fight. The judges didn't see it that way. End of story. Prates is getting wrestlefucked everyone knows it.

What way?

The guy didnt make the point you are arguing against

 

[arcadeperfect]

Not many of us on board. I wonder though, if he took more risks would he still be able to win or does he have to play it safe to win?

If he could he would. Nothing wrong with playing it safe, the annoying part is acting like an unstoppable KO artist when the performance indicates otherwise.

 

[1BadMF]

Shavkat

Morales should fight Parates, and the winner fights the winner of Islam-Shavkat

 

[arcadeperfect]

Looking purely at that, Morales

I prefer watching Morales, but what makes you think that his resume is better? Are you only basing it off of finishes? In terms of names, Garry actually has the better ones on his record. Belal, Prates, and MVP are better names, even they were underwhelming decision wins.

 

[SuperAlly]

Morales needs more seasoning (cumin) and we really don't need to hear the incessant post fight pissing and moaning after he inevitably gets smothered. Garry has earned it, he has the high level experience in his pocket, he's got the best fight IQ and style to counter Islam. Morales vs. Shavkat #1 contender fight makes all the sense in the world for both of them.

Lol at people repeatedly saying Garry has the style for Islam

It would be Khabib v Conor 2.0

 

[SuperAlly]

Garry is better. I don't get the hype for Morales, he's young and might be a contender soon but there's no reason for him to jump the line. Do people just want Makhachev to get an easy defence against an inexperienced guy?

Do people just want islam to get an easy defence against a point fighting striker?

 

[SuperAlly]

But he finished a near 38-year old Burns coming off three losses, stopped Brady who didn't shoot for a takedown despite having a big height and reach disadvantage, and he has pink hair.

"Didnt shoot for a single take down" is an idiotic argument when the guy got murdered early in the fight

 

[SuperAlly]

Yes the revisionist history itt is strong. That fight wasn’t close. Prates came back strong at the end, and good for him. The most human Ian has looked iirc. But Prates still lost.

One thing is clear in the wake of last night; Machado still has a lot of haters.

"The most human"

You're hardly objective with that ridiculous praise

He's decent no doubt. But he's a boring point fighter who already lost. Not some terminator looking machine

Ridiculous bias

 

[SuperAlly]

Yeah it seems any objective analysis goes out of the window - "Prates was about to knock him out then the bell rung", "Belal lost because of an eye poke and he wasn't that good anyway, he got lucky winning the belt" etc etc.

You're replying to a post about objective analysis that infers Garry is some other wordly talent

You 2 are ridiculous biased and lacking in objective analysis just in the opposite direction to those you are jousting with