Elections Vance-Fetterman 2028?

[cottagecheesefan]

Hear me out. Populists in both sides come together. And this coming from someone who made the thread on Fetterman being brain dead retard.

Elections - Fetterman in the hospital for 3 days now at least

Remember people warned about this? But his wife and team pushed him along anyways and the media all propped him up. They should all be ashamed. twitter roasting his wife though, saying how awful she must be to put him through this Didn't they also hide he have a stroke until like the last...

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But I think this type of alliance is needed to transcend the current problems in the political climate. Steve bannon even today was saying people like Ro Khanna want to join the populist, economic movement as the right has embraced, but they are too burdened by both ideology of the base and donor class.

They need to look at this democrat loss and look to jump on the MAGA populist movement that has destroyed the establishment right, to help destroy the establishment left now

Just for laughs, I think this will either be the showdown of candidates and/or ticket for 2028 to overcome the uniparty and donor class opposition. As I do not see anyone better that even stroke Fetterman on the left, and Vance is a shoe in., to replace Trump. But I think they can find common ground and destroy the enemies of liberty and freedom

Long way out, but anyone have predictions for 2028 and trying to predict how the polticial scene will progress?

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Fetterman in 2028? Will being eating tapioca in some care hospital at that point.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

at this point, will be like Fetterman, Warren; Newsom in the primary who else might contend?

 

[Mr. Shickadance]

I think it’s more likely that Zaxby’s taste better than Popeyes

 

[ferrisjso]

Fetterman is dead to the left. Hes the case study for why representative democracy sucks and how there is nothing stopping your rep from changing ideology the moment they are elected.

While the left is happy about MAGA destroying the establishment Dems the left are actually real populists with real ideology who actually want to provide actual rights to people. We want capitalism gone period end of story and want it gone wherever it exists. Theres nothing to negotiate with MAGA about and MAGA people thinking we have something in common is them projecting their beliefs on to people who share the same enemys.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Long way out, but anyone have predictions for 2028 and trying to predict how the polticial scene will progress?

No chance.

The last time a cross-party ticket was strongly considered was McCain possibly picking Joe Lieberman for 2008, a 'moderate' Democrat who was Al Gore's VP pick in 2000.

The reason it didn't happen is simple... people don't respect the perception of moderates, which both McCain & Lieberman were.

Now Vance is the odds-on-favorite to be the 2028 Nominee, and its doubtful his approval numbers are going to be so low it'd be in his best interests to pick a Democrat to be his VP. It'd be a desperation move, especially when the Republicans have so many noteworthy potential VP picks.

Vivek & Tulsi are two of the top names, very likeable and wellspoken, and they do well in interviews.

Fetterman didn't do so well on his JRE appearance and gave some answers that didn't put the Democrats in a positive light in regards to the border.

So, with respect, that's why I'm saying 'No Chance.'

 

[moreorless87]

Fetterman is dead to the left. Hes the case study for why representative democracy sucks and how there is nothing stopping your rep from changing ideology the moment they are elected.

One less anti genocidal soft drink option in the UK.

Seriously though I do think it really demonstrates one of the biggest things you need to look for with a progressive politician isnt just claimed platform its credibility, there are a lot of frauds out there who will betray their pledges as soon as there in office and often actually purge genuine progressives.

While the left is happy about MAGA destroying the establishment Dems the left are actually real populists with real ideology who actually want to provide actual rights to people. We want capitalism gone period end of story and want it gone wherever it exists. Theres nothing to negotiate with MAGA about and MAGA people thinking we have something in common is them projecting their beliefs on to people who share the same enemys.

I think the base appeal is potentially similar, the general anti establishment feeling against the way the economy and foreign policy is run, the difference is as you say MAGA basically shifts these sentiments into various kinds of bigotry and some highly questionable claims to make changes. I would say as well I suspect a lot of Trumps sucess with floating voters was probably as a simple "fuck you", basically picking the candidate the establishment they hate seemed to dislike more.

 

[Loiosh]

Vance is a shoe in to replace Trump

There's a significant chance the heir to trumpism will be Don Jr, not Vance.

While he wasn't that involved in Trump's first presidency, he has been front and center this time. Trump has taken his advice on a number of important nominations, including picking Vance for VP. He has a huge social media presence and is incredibly popular with the MAGA base.

I think the thought of American politics being driven for another eight years by his namesake will be too much to resist.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

There's a significant chance the heir to trumpism will be Don Jr, not Vance.

First I've heard this opinion.

 

[nostradumbass]

First I've heard this opinion.

Because it's a silly one. It'll be Vance or Vivek, but tgey can't run together unless one of them moves states.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Because it's a silly one. It'll be Vance or Vivek, but tgey can't run together unless one of them moves states.

Moving states is a simple process of filling out paperwork. Vivek could just rent a property in Texas without selling property in Ohio and moving and that'd be enough to fulfill the requirements.

Anyway, politics is completely unpredictable.
Who we may think will be the next nominee may not make it to the first primary.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Because it's a silly one.

It isn't. I just visited r/liberal.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

It isn't. I just visited r/liberal.

I'm interested in learning more about the theory.

@Loiosh, could you enlighten me?

 

[nostradumbass]

Moving states is a simple process of filling out paperwork. Vivek could just rent a property in Texas without selling property in Ohio and moving and that'd be enough to fulfill the requirements.

Anyway, politics is completely unpredictable.
Who we may think will be the next nominee may not make it to the first primary.

Vance will. His popularity only grows the more people see of him. DeSantis would be fine too, but he's a victim of bad timing, and he'll be mostly out of the spotlight by 2028 and the good job he did on covid will be mostly forgotten.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Vance will. His popularity only grows the more people see of him. DeSantis would be fine too, but he's a victim of bad timing, and he'll be mostly out of the spotlight by 2028 and the good job he did on covid will be mostly forgotten.

I'm not saying you're wrong.
But I am saying that years before 2008's primaries Guliani was the odds-on-favorite to be the eventual nominee. Same with Scott Walker in 2016.
In the years before 2015 any serious suggestions that Trump would be the Republican nominee for 2016 was received with laughter.

 

[UberHere]

Fetterman is dead to the left. Hes the case study for why representative democracy sucks and how there is nothing stopping your rep from changing ideology the moment they are elected.

While the left is happy about MAGA destroying the establishment Dems the left are actually real populists with real ideology who actually want to provide actual rights to people. We want capitalism gone period end of story and want it gone wherever it exists. Theres nothing to negotiate with MAGA about and MAGA people thinking we have something in common is them projecting their beliefs on to people who share the same enemys.

 

[filthybliss]

There's a significant chance the heir to trumpism will be Don Jr, not Vance.

I don't see this happening. He appointed all sorts of characters for cabinet positions when Don Jr. would be more digestible than wackadoodles like Matt Gaetz and Linda McMahon.

 

[filthybliss]

Fetterman is dead to the left. Hes the case study for why representative democracy sucks and how there is nothing stopping your rep from changing ideology the moment they are elected.

While the left is happy about MAGA destroying the establishment Dems the left are actually real populists with real ideology who actually want to provide actual rights to people. We want capitalism gone period end of story and want it gone wherever it exists. Theres nothing to negotiate with MAGA about and MAGA people thinking we have something in common is them projecting their beliefs on to people who share the same enemys.

He is dead to commies, maybe.

But for the democratic party, he is pretty symmetrical to the rest of the party's stances.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Jesus we just finished the last US election cycle, give us a break before starting on the next one.

 

[GoldenGod]

There's a significant chance the heir to trumpism will be Don Jr, not Vance.

While he wasn't that involved in Trump's first presidency, he has been front and center this time. Trump has taken his advice on a number of important nominations, including picking Vance for VP. He has a huge social media presence and is incredibly popular with the MAGA base.

I think the thought of American politics being driven for another eight years by his namesake will be too much to resist.

I think Don Jr. is more interested in running things from behind the scenes. He sees what his father has to deal with and doesn’t want that smoke.