UFC 310 is Absolutely Stacked!

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10-8 but not a single sub comes close to getting locked in / under the chin and you can't do any damage from strikes ? ok man.
Sitting in someone's full guard for a round should be a 10-8 as well, then.

Getting into someone's full guard isn't a dominant position. You might have the advantage but the guy on the bottom has offensive options off back.
If you take someone's back they are most likely screwed until you feel like letting them go. They have no offensive options. They can just survive.

How are you a MMA fan and you don't understand this?

 

[flektarn]

Getting into someone's full guard isn't a dominant position. You might have the advantage but the guy on the bottom has offensive options off back.
If you take someone's back they are most likely screwed until you feel like letting them go.

How are you a MMA fan and you don't understand this?

You can hug a guy in his full guard and there is nothing he can do about it unless you decide to posture up. So dominant ! 10-8! The other guy is screwed!
What am I not understanding ? I'm arguing against it being a 10-8 which is what you've stated. If it is such a dominant position and 10-8 worthy position then why the fuck couldn't aljo finish Yan once among the many times he had his back in both fights? Or Cejudo? Or even get a sub close or do damage. Such dominance!
The guy with his back taken is going to lose the round and take almost no damage from being in it, oh well. I don't think you award 10-8s for what is a dominant position but zero damage nor good sub attempts have been made.
You disagree with that, whatever, deal with it. I think damage that leads to finishes and effective grappling that comes close to going to submissions is worth more.

 

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You can hug a guy in his full guard and there is nothing he can do about it unless you decide to posture up. So dominant ! 10-8! The other guy is screwed!
What am I not understanding ? I'm arguing against it being a 10-8 which is what you've stated. If it is such a dominant position and 10-8 worthy position then why the fuck couldn't aljo finish Yan once among the many times he had his back in both fights? Or Cejudo? Or even get a sub close or do damage. Such dominance!
The guy with his back taken is going to lose the round and take almost no damage from being in it, oh well. I don't think you award 10-8s for what is a dominant position but zero damage nor good sub attempts have been made.
You disagree with that, whatever, deal with it. I think damage that leads to finishes and effective grappling that comes close to going to submissions is worth more.

There's absolutely things you can do to a person who wants to hug you in full guard. Wtf are you talking about?

 

[JBJ was here]

Main event: Good chance to be a great fight, but also a good chance to be a squash for Pantoja. Poor chance to sell many PPVs.
Co-main: As good as a co-main can get.
Fight #3: Fight to determine the #1 heavyweight gatekeeper in the world that rates to be a boring and easy decision for Gane. Great as far as the rankings of the fighters go, but I'm not expecting much out of the fight and I'm not expecting the winner to actually do anything with the win.
Bathroom break slot fight: Perfect fight for the slot.
PPV curtain jerker: Meh.

Pretty good prelims overall.

Verdict: Not stacked, but has pretty strong upside if the main event delivers and the prelims don't disappoint.

 

[flektarn]

There's absolutely things you can do to a person who wants to hug you in full guard. Wtf are you talking about?

cleverly ignore my other points. Just stop. We're not going to see eye to eye on this.

 

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cleverly ignore my other points. Just stop. We're not going to see eye to eye on this.

Because it's the first point you mentioned. Why should I go further when your first point is messed up? That needs to be addressed before we move on to your other points.

 

[flektarn]

Because it's the first point you mentioned. Why should I go further when your first point is messed up? That needs to be addressed before we move on to your other points.

It doesn't, actually. They can be discussed separately. but yea keep avoiding them. Focus on ones you think you can tackle and avoid the harder ones, no problem.

 

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It doesn't, actually. They can be discussed separately. but yea keep avoiding them. Focus on ones you think you can tackle and avoid the harder ones, no problem.

If your foundation is fucked why should we move on?
It's not my fault you made a dumbass point and don't want to address it.
No need to address your 2nd or 3rd points until we address your 1st.
That's how logical thinking people move. We don't Skip to 5 or 6 if 1 or 2 is fucked.

 

[flektarn]

If your foundation is fucked why should we move on?
It's not my fault you made a dumbass point and don't want to address it.
No need to address your 2nd or 3rd points until we address your 1st.

It's not the foundation but keep making shit up to avoid decent points. Internet autism 101; nitpick the points you disagree with, mislabel related points as foundational when it's convenient, avoid the other arguments.

 

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It's not the foundation but keep making shit up to avoid decent points. Internet autism 101; nitpick the points you disagree with, mislabel related points as foundational when it's convenient, avoid the other arguments.

It's not nitpicking.
We deal with your 1st point first.
Then we move on and deal with your 2nd second.
3rd third.
You see the pattern?

I get it. You can't defend your 1st point because it's stupid. It's not defendable. Just admit it and I can then address the other things you said.

 

[flektarn]

It's not nitpicking.
We deal with your 1st point first.
Then we move on and deal with your 2nd second.
3rd third.
You see the pattern?

I get it. You can't defend your 1st point because it's stupid. It's not defendable. Just admit it and I can then address the other things you said.

I get it's difficult for you to understand what would be foundational since the points werent in that order so you assume the first one listed is the foundational point.
"I don't think you award 10-8s for what is a dominant position but zero damage nor good sub attempts have been made." See that's a foundational point the others are made from. But you're just going to ignore it because now you say it's important to discuss them in order instead of whatever is the foundation because that's what is convenient right now for you. Don't misaddress something as a foundational next time just because it's the first one you saw lol.

 

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I get it's difficult for you to understand what would be foundational since the points werent in that order so you assume the first one listed is the foundational point.
"I don't think you award 10-8s for what is a dominant position but zero damage nor good sub attempts have been made." See that's a foundational point the others are made from. But you're just going to ignore it because now you say it's important to discuss them in order instead of whatever is the foundation because that's what is convenient right now for you. Don't misaddress something as a foundational next time just because it's the first one you saw lol.

Look I'm going to give you your cookies. Yes I believe that damage is the most important factor for judging. But control is to.

In my opinion if you force another grown man to wear your as a backpack for 4 minutes of a 5 minute round then I'm scoring 10-8. If it was 2 or 2 minutes of control then I wouldn't.

But back control IS a dominant position. The only time I've seen a ref break up back control and reset fighters was Maia vs Usman. We've seen plenty of examples of fighters being reset when in each other guards.

And the reason Sterling didn't submit him was Yan did a same fine job defending. But defense is its own prize. You don't score points for defense. Sterling forced Yan into a terrible position and forced Yan to play his game and defend. Yan literally had zero offense. That's why I scored it 10-8.
Force your opponent into a terrible position, force that opponent to stay in that position for most of the round, while completely taking away any of offensive options for your opponent is a 10-8 round imo.
Not getting a sub is a testament to Yan. Not a knock on Sterling.

 

[Judge Lance Ito]

That's not a stacked card. In fact there's a ;load of mismatches.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Stacked just like your m0m

I’m stoked for Nate The Train
Lionheart vs Heyes
Shavkat
The Chris
Gorimbo
Volkomb
PooBear
The Carpenter

 

[SamuraiBro]

There will be about 4 or 5 pullouts/cancelled fights. Let’s wait and see

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

He is super exciting fighter. Almost all of his fight end by finish win or loseView attachment 1073104

Half is not almost all

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Half is not almost all

Half??? Can you not do math??

The man has 58 fights. 50 have ended in finish. That is 86%

 

[TGArthur]

Nate Landwehr lookg like a young Randy Couture