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International Trump: US will take over Gaza, resettle Palestinians

Israel sure did, and they didn't do much with it. This is a really odd whataboutism

You mean it's really odd that people don't see all this as a completely one-sided
Israel sure did, and they didn't do much with it. This is a really odd whataboutism

Whataboutism? You don't think there is accountability to be held on both sides?
 
You mean it's really odd that people don't see all this as a completely one-sided
Whataboutism? You don't think there is accountability to be held on both sides?
Who are these both sides you're referring to? I don't hold Israeli civilians that accountable, just as I don't hold Gazan civilians that accountable.
 
Broadly speaking, it's mostly going to be Israel's governments and US and Arab meddling and bad faith diplomacy. Brutally occupying places that don't want to be occupied rarely ends well or improves their odds of democratizing.

Arab?
 
Matter of fact, they moved the location of the festival. To an easier accessible area lol. Never mind the Hannibal directives given.
I’m sure you believe that. And that Israeli’s are just going along with their family and friends being murdered en masse……
 
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They absolutely had intelligence an attack was about to happen.

Israel did. It’s a failure on Israel’s behalf for not taking precautions to protect their civilians.

Honestly, credit to @Rob Battisti and @Mr Holmes for being consistent about cutting the strings off on all wars even when it comes to siding with Israel. Israel can deal with this mess that they salted the wounds for. Netanyahu knew what Hamas was and he strong armed them for years to weaken the secular PLO to decrease the chance of peace and a 2 state solution.
 
Broadly speaking, it's mostly going to be Israel's governments and US and Arab meddling and bad faith diplomacy. Brutally occupying places that don't want to be occupied rarely ends well or improves their odds of democratizing.

They should give terrorists freedom to operate, and the Arab / Muslim desire to eradicate Israel should have been respected……
 
They should give terrorists freedom to operate, and the Arab / Muslim desire to eradicate Israel should have been respected……
Ah yes, the classic strawman. If only there was an option or two between brutal military occupation for decades and give terrorists complete freedom to operate.

Keep up the bad faith shitposting.
Yes, the Arab states have primarily been more interested in using Palestine to score easy points rather than sincerely engaging with the issue, let alone trying to improve the situation long term.
 
Israel did. It’s a failure on Israel’s behalf for not taking precautions to protect their civilians.

Honestly, credit to @Rob Battisti and @Mr Holmes for being consistent about cutting the strings off on all wars even when it comes to siding with Israel. Israel can deal with this mess that they salted the wounds for. Netanyahu knew what Hamas was and he strong armed them for years to weaken the secular PLO to decrease the chance of peace and a 2 state solution.
Israel can kiss my ass they are war mongering criminals in every sense of the word.

We should cut off ALL aide to Israel and it sickens me to have our president essentially kissing up to them.
 
Ah yes, the classic strawman. If only there was an option or two between brutal military occupation for decades and give terrorists complete freedom to operate.

Keep up the bad faith shitposting.
They literally went to war to eradicate Israel at their inception. And then again 20 years later. And then again. And again.

And of course, when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, almost 20 years ago, they turned to a terror group to lead them (goal: eradicate Israel of course….). While the less radical faction has a martyr fund for terrorists. Has Israel ever NOT been under threat since their inception?

And what does “score easy points” even mean?
 
They literally went to war to eradicate Israel at their inception. And then again 20 years later. And then again. And again.
Who is they?
And of course, when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, almost 20 years ago, they turned to a terror group to lead them (goal: eradicate Israel of course….). While the less radical faction has a martyr fund for terrorists.
We've been over this. Democratization takes time. Plenty of blame to go around, but Israel has been more than happy to sideline or target moderate Palestinians. And occupation and constant conflict tends to breed extremism and the allure of it. Again, of which Israel had a hand in. As an American, I can influence my ally more than other countries, and I also hold my allies to a higher standard than random terror groups and tyrants.
 
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