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[ChosenOne]

Solid meltdown.

BUT HUNTER PROFITED FROM SELLING HIS ART!!

 

[Fanu]

And the meltdown continues. All this panic wrestling because you can't handle the reality that you're a complete hypocrite. It must suck to be a lefty these days and have no argument for literally anything, because you have no set of consistent principles other than "Trump man bad". "That's different" probably comes up quite a bit in your post history, having to constantly defend your hypocrisy and all...

also, speaking about meltdowns here is one:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114155282989654298

President, of the worlds richest nation, bitching about being ripped off by other nations - you can't make this shit up..
hopefully tariffs on Australia will make it all better

 

[WklySportsMemes]

You should be laughing, at yourself, because everybody knows about this ancient news... but you.

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The criticisms by you for Elon's resisting unions have even less credibility than they did before you posted this.

Modern unions are parasites, sucking funds and efficiency from their hosts.
Right-wingers know this.
Leftists know this.
Whatever contributions they made toward safety regulations and working conditions were made decades ago with no improvements.

Infact their main purpose at this point is to confiscate from corporations and public funds to give to political

Are you not following what is happening right now?
Guess who exposed Cenk for those alleged practices? The Left
Guess who have been Cenk & Ana's BIIGGEST critics & haters recently? The Left

So much so they both have pretty much left the left. Ana has come out saying she is no longer left. Cenk is saying he still more moderate

TYT had a mass exodus and is hitting hard times because of that & their bad takes.

Thats the difference. When the left gets a bad candidate grifter or dishonest actor even if it's late they don't defend them like a cult.
This is eviden with Sleepy Joe & TYT.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I am laughing at you for bringing up Cenk like that means anything in the context of the conversation.

Your brain is a pile of mush. You're not a serious person.

You can laugh at whatever you want Rational, because you're getting destroyed in this discussion as you frequently are.
*Trying to ignore how unions donate $1.7 Billion to political campaigns.
*Trying to ignore Zuckerberg donating $400 million to the 2020 election.
*Trying to ignore leftist media outlets that have avoided their employee base unionizing.

How about lets look at the stories from years ago celebrating so many news outlets unionizing -

Newsrooms Are Unionizing Pretty Much "Nonstop." Here's Why - Nieman Reports

Journalists are responding to consolidation and ongoing revenue challenges by joining the unionization wave

niemanreports.org

"Within months of Gawker unionizing, journalists at HuffPost, Salon, Vice Media, and the Guardian US followed suit. By the end of 2018, 30 digital news outlets had unionized, along with what were long seen as the nation’s two most anti-union newspapers, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune. The union wave soon swept up several prestigious magazines: The New Yorker, New York, and The New Republic.
Over the past few years, this wave has continued unabated. Journalists at The Atlantic and Forbes voted to unionize, as did over 500 workers from 28 Hearst publications, including Cosmopolitan, Esquire, and Good Housekeeping. Last June, editorial employees at the Insider website (formerly Business Insider) voted to unionize, 241-14, and in November, over 250 employees at Politico received union recognition. Slate, The Intercept, Talking Points Memo, Thrillist, Refinery29, and Chalkbeat, the education website, have also unionized. Writers and producers at The Ringer and Gimlet Media, two podcast giants, have unionized, as have numerous public radio stations, including WBUR in Boston and WHYY in Philadelphia, both of whose workers joined SAG-AFTRA, the giant union for radio, television, and movie workers."

And lets look at how thats going -


"[As the news business craters under dwindling audiences, slashed budgets and mass layoffs, journalists have taken to picket lines in protest.

Over the past two years, they have gone on strike against their corporate owners in cities big and small, including New York, Los Angeles., Washington D.C., San Antonio, Naples, Fla., Rochester N.Y. and Pittsburgh.

At the national level, the efforts have been led by a 36-year-old former data reporter for The Los Angeles Times who finds himself much in demand."



How dare Elon try to prevent the employees of his businesses from unionizing.


Anyway Rational, it was fun discussing this with you... or rather, exposing how ignorant you are on this and practically every topic you try to pigeon-hole the conversation into only using and discussing your talking points.

That's because in free discussion of ideas leftists always fail to win arguments.

 

[Rational Poster]

You can laugh at whatever you want Rational, because you're getting destroyed in this discussion as you frequently are.
*Trying to ignore how unions donate $1.7 Billion to political campaigns.
*Trying to ignore Zuckerberg donating $400 million to the 2020 election.
*Trying to ignore leftist media outlets that have avoided their employee base unionizing.

How about lets look at the stories from years ago celebrating so many news outlets unionizing -

Newsrooms Are Unionizing Pretty Much "Nonstop." Here's Why - Nieman Reports

Journalists are responding to consolidation and ongoing revenue challenges by joining the unionization wave

niemanreports.org

"Within months of Gawker unionizing, journalists at HuffPost, Salon, Vice Media, and the Guardian US followed suit. By the end of 2018, 30 digital news outlets had unionized, along with what were long seen as the nation’s two most anti-union newspapers, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune. The union wave soon swept up several prestigious magazines: The New Yorker, New York, and The New Republic.
Over the past few years, this wave has continued unabated. Journalists at The Atlantic and Forbes voted to unionize, as did over 500 workers from 28 Hearst publications, including Cosmopolitan, Esquire, and Good Housekeeping. Last June, editorial employees at the Insider website (formerly Business Insider) voted to unionize, 241-14, and in November, over 250 employees at Politico received union recognition. Slate, The Intercept, Talking Points Memo, Thrillist, Refinery29, and Chalkbeat, the education website, have also unionized. Writers and producers at The Ringer and Gimlet Media, two podcast giants, have unionized, as have numerous public radio stations, including WBUR in Boston and WHYY in Philadelphia, both of whose workers joined SAG-AFTRA, the giant union for radio, television, and movie workers."

And lets look at how thats going -

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"[As the news business craters under dwindling audiences, slashed budgets and mass layoffs, journalists have taken to picket lines in protest.

Over the past two years, they have gone on strike against their corporate owners in cities big and small, including New York, Los Angeles., Washington D.C., San Antonio, Naples, Fla., Rochester N.Y. and Pittsburgh.

At the national level, the efforts have been led by a 36-year-old former data reporter for The Los Angeles Times who finds himself much in demand."



How dare Elon try to prevent the employees of his businesses from unionizing.


Anyway Rational, it was fun discussing this with you... or rather, exposing how ignorant you are on this and practically every topic you try to pigeon-hole the conversation into only using and discussing your talking points.

That's because in free discussion of ideas leftists always fail to win arguments.

I mean, I didn't ignore shit. I've addressed literally everything, you're the one ignoring my responses and constantly shifting the goal post, just like this post.

 

[filthybliss]

You can laugh at whatever you want Rational, because you're getting destroyed in this discussion as you frequently are.
*Trying to ignore how unions donate $1.7 Billion to political campaigns.
*Trying to ignore Zuckerberg donating $400 million to the 2020 election.
*Trying to ignore leftist media outlets that have avoided their employee base unionizing.

How about lets look at the stories from years ago celebrating so many news outlets unionizing -

Newsrooms Are Unionizing Pretty Much "Nonstop." Here's Why - Nieman Reports

Journalists are responding to consolidation and ongoing revenue challenges by joining the unionization wave

niemanreports.org

"Within months of Gawker unionizing, journalists at HuffPost, Salon, Vice Media, and the Guardian US followed suit. By the end of 2018, 30 digital news outlets had unionized, along with what were long seen as the nation’s two most anti-union newspapers, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune. The union wave soon swept up several prestigious magazines: The New Yorker, New York, and The New Republic.
Over the past few years, this wave has continued unabated. Journalists at The Atlantic and Forbes voted to unionize, as did over 500 workers from 28 Hearst publications, including Cosmopolitan, Esquire, and Good Housekeeping. Last June, editorial employees at the Insider website (formerly Business Insider) voted to unionize, 241-14, and in November, over 250 employees at Politico received union recognition. Slate, The Intercept, Talking Points Memo, Thrillist, Refinery29, and Chalkbeat, the education website, have also unionized. Writers and producers at The Ringer and Gimlet Media, two podcast giants, have unionized, as have numerous public radio stations, including WBUR in Boston and WHYY in Philadelphia, both of whose workers joined SAG-AFTRA, the giant union for radio, television, and movie workers."

And lets look at how thats going -

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"[As the news business craters under dwindling audiences, slashed budgets and mass layoffs, journalists have taken to picket lines in protest.

Over the past two years, they have gone on strike against their corporate owners in cities big and small, including New York, Los Angeles., Washington D.C., San Antonio, Naples, Fla., Rochester N.Y. and Pittsburgh.

At the national level, the efforts have been led by a 36-year-old former data reporter for The Los Angeles Times who finds himself much in demand."



How dare Elon try to prevent the employees of his businesses from unionizing.


Anyway Rational, it was fun discussing this with you... or rather, exposing how ignorant you are on this and practically every topic you try to pigeon-hole the conversation into only using and discussing your talking points.

That's because in free discussion of ideas leftists always fail to win arguments.

Do you think its only leftists that dislike Trump?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Are you not following what is happening right now?
Guess who exposed Cenk for those alleged practices? The Left
Guess who have been Cenk & Ana's BIIGGEST critics & haters recently? The Left

Because 'The Left' is stupid.
Read the stories I posted above as to why Cenk did what was in the obvious best interests of his company, because as much as he claims to be of the left he is obviously a capitalist... a business man.
He is a grifter, in the purest sense of the word.

So much so they both have pretty much left the left. Ana has come out saying she is no longer left. Cenk is saying he still more moderate

Just like Trump.
Just like Rogan.
Just like Musk.
Just like Gabbard.

Sooner or later you leftists are going to have to self-reflect and realize such strict ideological dogma is weakening your movement, and chances are it will destroy you.

Hell you've tried to cancel JK Rowling, who's as about as batshit crazy left has anyone can go... except on trans-issues.

I say you have to self-reflect, but thats impossible. And I actually don't want you to anyway.

Burn baby burn.

TYT had a mass exodus and is hitting hard times because of that & their bad takes.

Thats the difference. When the left gets a bad candidate or grifter even if it's late they don't defend them like a cult.
This is eviden with Sleepy Joe & TYT.

As much as you're trying to imply they're now a right-wing media outlet, they've been consistent on the majority of their issues from 10-15 years ago with no evolution on issues that didn't effect them directly.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Because 'The Left' is stupid.
Read the stories I posted above as to why Cenk did what was in the obvious best interests of his company, because as much as he claims to be of the left he is obviously a capitalist... a business man.
He is a grifter, in the purest sense of the word.



Just like Trump.
Just like Rogan.
Just like Musk.
Just like Gabbard.

Sooner or later you leftists are going to have to self-reflect and realize such strict ideological dogma is weakening your movement, and chances are it will destroy you.

Hell you've tried to cancel JK Rowling, who's as about as batshit crazy left has anyone can go... except on trans-issues.

I say you have to self-reflect, but thats impossible. And I actually don't want you to anyway.

Burn baby burn.


As much as you're trying to imply they're now a right-wing media outlet, they've been consistent on the majority of their issues from 10-15 years ago with no evolution on issues that didn't effect them directly.

You missed the point. The left is privy to the story. It's old news. Years old news.
Wrong they flipped on a TON of issues. There are whole outlets and channels dedicated to the fall of TYT & their pivot
They flipped on:
-Trump
-Affirmative Action
-Election predictions
-Crime
- The trans stuff
-Infamously flipped on Armenian Genocide
-Cenk was literally a Republican prior to all this
Also to be fair. Cenk maintains that its not true & sites them actually having the union & the union going through as proof of that.

Ana & Cenk don't even hold the same positions anymore so it's silly to day "their
views have been consistent through the years." Borderline lying.....

Here, let's make the point real simple for you. You are in zero position to call any group stupid lol
Human nature is human nature.
EVERY group has grifters, dishonest actors, & frauds. All adults understand & agree to that.
The difference is if you schill propaganda for those people or if you get rid of them.
Who wouldn't argue with that????
Weird.

Also don't forget Cenk has tried to run for offices multiple times. Each time the Democrats told him HELL NO & fought him tooth a nail.
Sure some stopped him for the union stuff. That was a proven fact that Cenk acknowledges.
(I'm also sure some stopped him because his one of the biggest voices for getting money out of politics )

 

[GearSolidMetal]

They flipped on:
-Trump
-Affirmative Action
-Election predictions
-Crime
- The trans stuff
-Infamously flipped on Armenian Genocide
-Cenk was literally a Republican prior to all this
Also to be fair. Cenk maintains that its not true & sites them actually having the union & the union going through as proof of that.

So they're not batshit crazy leftists, they're just leftist.

Apparently they realized their idealistic utopia is antithetical to reality.

Ana & Cenk don't even hold the same positions anymore so it's silly to day "their
views have been consistent through the years." Borderline lying.....

Here, let's make the point real simple for you. You are in zero position to call any group stupid lol
Human nature is human nature.
EVERY group has grifters, dishonest actors, & frauds. All adults understand & agree to that.
The difference is if you schill propaganda for those people or if you get rid of them.
Who wouldn't argue with that????
Weird.

Also don't forget Cenk has tried to run for offices multiple times. Each time the Democrats told him HELL NO & fought him tooth a nail.
Sure some stopped him for the union stuff. That was a proven fact that Cenk acknowledges.
(I'm also sure some stopped him because his one of the biggest voices for getting money out of politics )

So of the dozens and dozens of political issues, those are the only ones they flipped on?

 

[WklySportsMemes]

So they're not batshit crazy leftists, they're just leftist.

Apparently they realized their idealistic utopia is antithetical to reality.




So of the dozens and dozens of political issues, those are the only ones they flipped on?

Nah, that's not it.
How about this?
What was not a factual statement in what I listed out in that last post?

To answer your question:
Those are just the ones I know of off the top of my head.
But that is 100% called a goal post move.
-You stated they didn't flip and were consistent.
-I stated 7 major irrefutable things they flipped on including the fact that Cenk & Ana don't have the same views & argue on air about them often.
-You then can't refute those facts so you move the goal post from them being consistent and never flipping to "they only flipped on 7 to 8 major issues or things. I'm going to invent an imaginary scoring system to where 7-8 major pivots do not count so I appear right."
Thats not how honest conversations work.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Nah, that's not it.
How about this?
What was not a factual statement in what I listed out in that last post?

I brought up Cenk as an example of a leftist business owner who resisted unionization of his company.
That's a fact, and probably the reason why TYT is still around today because numerous unionized newsrooms are striking and shutting down.

To answer your question:
Those are just the ones I know of off the top of my head.
But that is 100% called a goal post move.
-You stated they didn't flip and were consistent.
-I stated 7 major irrefutable things they flipped on including the fact that Cenk & Ana don't have the same views & argue on air about them often.
-You then can't refute those facts so you move the goal post from them being consistent and never flipping to "they only flipped on 7 to 8 major issues or things. I'm going to invent an imaginary scoring system to where 7-8 major pivots do not count so I appear right."
Thats not how honest conversations work.

In the spirit of being honest, I honestly don't care about Cenk, Ana, or TYT. If they shut down tomorrow I won't be losing any sleep.

You can overanalyze their changes of policy support over the years and condemn them, but the fact is they've both experienced and been exposed to factual information their proposed policies don't result in the utopia they said they would.

 

[oldshadow]

Expected from you when you got nothing else.

 

[panamaican]

His owners got him out here shilling like a bought bitch. Donald, you gotta pump our stocks back up right now. They even gave him a pricing sheet for the sales pitch, totally normal president behaviour

I thought this was AI or photoshop or something.

I mean this should be embarrassing as fuck but we're past the point where anyone who supports Trump will acknowledge that there's a problem with any of this.

 

[Rational Poster]

Expected from you when you got nothing else.

You've completely fled from this discussion from my opening reply.

You've never had anything and you never do, except for just mindlessly repeating propaganda that your phone feeds you.

 

[Rational Poster]

I thought this was AI or photoshop or something.

I mean this should be embarrassing as fuck but we're past the point where anyone who supports Trump will acknowledge that there's a problem with any of this.

Hey man it's okay that Elon Musk spent more money than any person in political history on a single candidate's election and secured a seat for himself directly behind the President's desk because Cenk squashed the TYT union 5 years ago.

Virtually identical.

 

[HOLA]

Listening to Old Ass Trump call people the wrong name and mispronouncing everything will never stop being funny and he has been doing it for a solid 12 years. I do doubt Trump will ever top introducing Tim Cook as Tim Apple. That is Trumps Apex Mountain, like Jordan’s Flu Game.

He reminds me of some of the sopranos characters, who would mispronounce words in hilarious ways sometimes.

Like Christopher: “Everyone has astrosized me!”

 

[oldshadow]

You've completely fled from this discussion from my opening reply.

You've never had anything and you never do, except for just mindlessly repeating propaganda that your phone feeds you.

Says someone that believes MSNBC.

 

[HOLA]

 

[Rational Poster]

Says someone that believes MSNBC.

Without a doubt you've watched and consumed more network news this past year than I have in my life.

 

[ermac88]

So Biden helped multiple competing brands & union auto workers at the same time...
Yeah not the same as exclusively promoting a single sinking ship company per the free market to stop a billionaire from losing pennies because he bought him off with $400,000,000.

Holy false equivalency Batman.

You are having a completely separate conversation with this guy and getting sucked in to thinking he understands what you are expressing.

I dont want to say you are wasting your time, but...