Opinion Musk’s never been more powerful so why are Tesla shares tanking?

[LeonardoBjj]

Because anyone who has driven BYD or Xiaomi knows that Tesla's time is up.

The American market is a protected bubble

- Ford is gonna start working with Xiaomi next year. Unless Trump and Elon pull something, there's no way in hell, that Tesla can compete with one of the most beloved and traditional car brands in the world!

 

[LeonardoBjj]

When you act like a nazi and tweet about giving Derik Chavin a pardon a lot of people will get pissed. Plus he hung his hat with Trump who as we all know is a very divisive personality, particularly hated internationally. Further, the bloom has been of the rose for a while with Teslas, the resale value has been in the toilet for a while. The service and quality of manufacturing has gone down and they are now very unreliable. The cyber truck just had its eighth recall I believe.

Will the stock fall another 50%?

- I've read that some investor is gonna buy Tesla.My fear is that when that happens, Tesla name will be alredy too down in the mud!

 

[LeonardoBjj]

https://www.ccn.com/news/business/xiaomi-ev-sales-vs-ford-american-auto-brands-struggle-china/

 

[Andy Capp]

Can we not arrange a one time payment to send Elon to Mars?

The technology really isn't close to being there yet to make that safe... oh, wait...

 

[nhbbear]

Probably because people are afraid to buy them when they get vandalized and burned

 

[Crazy Source]

"I LOVE TESLER"​

This was one hell of a fuck up, but it's a hammer looking for a nail.

Barrell chested douche. What a horrible body.

 

[Stoic1]

Domestic terrorists can affect stock prices.

I bought at around $105 so still doing pretty good

 

[Cajun]

I'm pretty sure most of his customer base was of a certain political stripe. They don't like him now. Might explain the drop in sales.

This... people were saying he's was taking the easy way by aligning with trump... the opposite imo

 

[James Bomb]

Yes.

There was some belief for years that Elon was a rebirth of Steve Jobs, like brilliance, and that he would be able to launch new and more popular products each and every year.

What was discovered is Elon is a engineer with a very good vision of technologies he knows can and should be developed and will work, but he needs to typically buy established companies who provide the initial vision, of what they products should be.

Beyond that initial launch and success on the engineering front Elon has shown near zero ability to innovate, or even refresh what he has built. He is not a marketing guy and does not value them as he focuses on engineering.

That has lead Tesla to not updating or launching any new changes or brands to a lineup that is now stale and dated in a rapidly growing EV market.

We have companies now simply taking the Tesla models and doing the look and feel updates Tesla should have done, and selling those as their 'new entrants' into the EV market. They are targeting the people who loved their model Tesla but want something newer and fresher looking.

Do the current Tesla buyers want to rebuy the same car or pay much less for this Tesla competitor who has provided the 'newer and fresher' model that should have been the Tesla update version?

This Chinese EV is a Tesla clone, and it starts at just $26,000 | HT Auto​

The same thing happened with Intel... they used to be market leaders in chip design and manufacturing. Then they got obsessed with stock buybacks and now all the innovation is happening in Taiwan instead.

Tesla is really shitting the bed, and people are in active denial because they don't want the stock price to go down.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- Elon and Trump aren given us the comic-book Super-Man - Metropolis, were regular people, losing their rights, wait to see if the legend of a saviour is real.

 

[James Bomb]

Domestic terrorists can affect stock prices.

I bought at around $105 so still doing pretty good

Concerning...

Elon should just pull himself up by the bootstraps and stop playing the victim

 

[Stoic1]

Concerning...

Elon should just pull himself up by the bootstraps and stop playing the victim

You are simultaneously rationalizing political violence and victim blaming.

Impressive level of ignorance.

 

[James Bomb]

You are simultaneously rationalizing political violence and victim blaming.

Impressive level of ignorance.

Interesting...

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Let's just stop everything we're doing on a Sunday evening because the worst president ever and the right wing media is leading another false moral panic.

I'm just going to call out the blatant fear mongering and hypocrisy because this dog and pony show has happened many times, including:

1. The War on Christmas
2. The Satanic Panic
3. All the Migrant Caravans
4. CRT in Public Schools
5. Jade Helm Training Exercises
6. Obama's Birth Certificate
7. 15 Minute Cities
8. Haitians Eating Dogs and Cats
9. etc...

Elon isn't the victim of anything other than his own pride. Cut the bullshit.

 

[lifelessheap]

Everything TSLA is hoping for is FSD. Betting on cameras and AI + a fleet will probably win. Waymo doesn't have any endless growing fleet to learn from.

 

[chardog]

Probably because people are afraid to buy them when they get vandalized and burned

I've said it in the other thread, it was down because of the transition to late model Y, a highly redesigned update of the number 1 selling car worldwide (tesla dont rest on laurels)



tesla is light blue, as they ramped up production to the new model, the stocks corrected. On top of that, there was hit piece by the financial times that made waves..... it was fake news:

 

[chardog]

Because anyone who has driven BYD or Xiaomi knows that Tesla's time is up.

The American market is a protected bubble

Is that why Tesla has the number one car in china?

the idea that Tesla cant compete is laughable, they already are competing in china, unlike other american brands.

 

[Strychnine]

/Thread.

 

[deviake]

Is that why Tesla has the number one car in china?

the idea that Tesla cant compete is laughable, they already are competing in china, unlike other american brands.

Tesla Sales in China​

Tesla is not the number one car in China. As of 2024, BYD has surpassed Tesla in sales in China, accounting for 32% of new energy vehicle sales, which include both battery-powered and hybrid vehicles, compared to Tesla's 6.1% market share. Additionally, BYD reported annual revenue of $107 billion for 2024, selling a record 4.3 million vehicles globally, including both pure electric and hybrid vehicles. In contrast, Tesla delivered 1.79 million battery-powered vehicles globally in 2024.

Tesla's sales in China have faced challenges, with sales falling 11.5% in January 2025 compared to the same month in the previous year. Meanwhile, BYD has launched new models and advanced technologies, such as its "God's Eye" advanced driver-assistance system, which is available free in all its models. These factors have contributed to BYD's growing market share and position as the leading electric vehicle manufacturer in China.


*Morgan Freeman voice*

Tesla is not, in fact, the number one car in China.

 

[pinger]

Is that why Tesla has the number one car in china?

the idea that Tesla cant compete is laughable, they already are competing in china, unlike other american brands.

Narrowly, Tesla 1.79 billion to BYD 1.76 billion in Ev's but BYD with a larger sales due to their Hybrids.

But if you look at trends Tesla is losing market share at an alarming and increasing rate. BYD will easily outsell it this year, and the next generation of BYD EVs are at least a generation ahead of Tesla in battery, technology, and build quality.

That and other concerns with Musk's stewardship is why the Tesla share price is in the shitter.

The only good news is some mysterious tarrifs in the US that seem to have fallen into Elons lap protecting the US domestic market for him and keeping competitors out.

 

[chardog]

Tesla Sales in China​

Tesla is not the number one car in China. As of 2024, BYD has surpassed Tesla in sales in China, accounting for 32% of new energy vehicle sales, which include both battery-powered and hybrid vehicles, compared to Tesla's 6.1% market share. Additionally, BYD reported annual revenue of $107 billion for 2024, selling a record 4.3 million vehicles globally, including both pure electric and hybrid vehicles.25 In contrast, Tesla delivered 1.79 million battery-powered vehicles globally in 2024.

Tesla's sales in China have faced challenges, with sales falling 11.5% in January 2025 compared to the same month in the previous year. Meanwhile, BYD has launched new models and advanced technologies, such as its "God's Eye" advanced driver-assistance system, which is available free in all its models. These factors have contributed to BYD's growing market share and position as the leading electric vehicle manufacturer in China.


*Morgan Freeman voice*

Tesla is not, in fact, the number one car in China.

BYD does not have the number one car there, it's the Tesla Model Y.

BYD sells more cumulatively than tesla, but it sells lower end vehicles, while Tesla sell's a premium vehicle that produces a profit.