Borz has a ZERO case for a TS.
Me either he's a glorified can crusher. Especially compared to WB. and Garry looked like crap against him, part of why I'm not very high on Garry. What's he going to do when he fights another decent striker that doesn't have trash grappling like mvp? If he was going to go grappling there he needed a sub not a fitching.
They might be ranked close together, but you can't tell me you think they're close in skill or accomplishment level? I mean, come on lol.
Holland is incredibly inconsistent. Kevin managed to beat ranked Chiesa to get a number and MVP was fortunate to get him after JDM while there was still a number next to his name. MVP is up there by happenstance and needs to defend being up there. Wonderboy is up there by proof.
Holland being a ranked win is actually wild to consider, given how mid he is. Nothing against the guy but yeah. This is why people value the number of ranked wins. Lots of guys can get one or two getting the right matchup at the right time. Very few fighters that are not elite have a lot of ranked wins.
MVP and WB? You can make an argument for it. MVP beat Holland and he didn't even have to go to a split to do it.
WB didn't split decision Holland, he was up 39-36 when he finished him
No, WB finished Holland. My point is illustrating JDM is a not so great fighter because he went to a split with the #60 guy and a split with Kevin Holland. If Holland is mid how shit is JDM?
Also... do you think WB beat Holland by split or something? Because that is.... not correct.
Great, you might even convince yourself JDM isn't elite and I don't have to do it.
Because you were talking about comparing MVP and Wonderboy. Stay on target here please.
What are you main points of discontention? The obvious is that MVP didn't join UFC until recently and the 2 people who beat MVP also don't fight for the UFC. How do you want to go about comparing them?
What an incredible non-sequitur. JDM also finished (no decision necessary) Burns who beat Wonderboy. And Wonderboy, according to you (because of how well MVP beat Holland or whatever dumbass math you're doing) is equal to MVP. So you see where your pick and choose bullshit falls apart?Great, you might even convince yourself JDM isn't elite and I don't have to do it.
Remember the other day, you told me it's arguable Hafez won the first and second round against JDM? I do.
The exact opponent they both fought that you just mentioned and ignored us comparing?
You're so confident, you shouldn't have any problem proving MVP and WB aren't comparable. Let's see it.
A) You just implied they weren't. B) I also did JUST compare them. In multiple ways
MVP is up there by happenstance and needs to defend being up there. Wonderboy is up there by proof.
What's even more hilarious about this is that Mr Bandito literally told me the other day in ohe of his rage fits that Hafez actually does have an argument for winning rounds 1 and 2 against JDM.
I don't think any of it matters that much if we all agree on the order at least.What's even more hilarious about this is that Mr Bandito literally told me the other day in ohe of his rage fits that Hafez actually does have an argument for winning rounds 1 and 2 against JDM.
