I think you're jumping to conclusions without having sufficient evidence. We don't know what position that migrant had or whether it was a temporary or permanent position or how much the staffing agency is getting.
You don't get it. Shocking. I never said bringing in these people would lower everyone's pay in the entire state. With all due respect, that doesn't even make any fucking sense. From the limited info we have, it sure looks like they brought these people in to work for somewhere between 30 to 50% less than the industry average for the work they were doing in that region. Hard to know specifics without more info. As a warehouse guy, if the other warehouses are ALL paying $15 to $20 an hour and seemingly getting by just fine, same as we do paying market rate here, then WHY does this place have to pay so much less than industry standard? Just lookinjg at the numbers as someone VERY familiar with this business, it LOOKS wrong. And they couldn't get people to come work here. To here them tell it, it's because everyone's a lazy meth addict that doesn't want to work.
Show me one of these towns where an industry, and it can be any industry, is paying far below market rate for the same work other employers are paying market rate or above for within that same city, and instead they're bringing in third world workers. I don't care if people leave their shitty hometown.
Some of the Haitian migrants do work at Dole Foods, its mentioned in the article:You don't get it. Shocking. I never said bringing in these people would lower everyone's pay in the entire state. With all due respect, that doesn't even make any fucking sense. From the limited info we have, it sure looks like they brought these people in to work for somewhere between 30 to 50% less than the industry average for the work they were doing in that region. Hard to know specifics without more info. As a warehouse guy, if the other warehouses are ALL paying $15 to $20 an hour and seemingly getting by just fine, same as we do paying market rate here, then WHY does this place have to pay so much less than industry standard? Just lookinjg at the numbers as someone VERY familiar with this business, it LOOKS wrong. And they couldn't get people to come work here. To here them tell it, it's because everyone's a lazy meth addict that doesn't want to work.
But what about Dole Foods ($17.28 to $17.73/hr for pickers) Kellermeyer Bergensons Services (warehouse cleaner, $18 an hour.) Chewy (warehouse picking/packing, $20.75/hr) Gordon (1st shift warehouse selector, $19.70/hr)
That's just a few examples among many in the same city. Doing the same/very similar work. How come I don't here about any of these or the myriad other employers there bussing the third world in to work their jobs? Could it be because these companies are offering industry standard pay and benefits?
So what's possibly happening is these companies are paying more or less the standard wage to the staffing agency who then pays the workers some reduced amount and pockets the difference.
Right but those invisible factors can't just be ANYTHING or it's shady. There's market rates for work. There's typical amounts for staffing agency cuts. I'm telling you as someone in the industry, these numbers look shady. Is that proof, obviously not. We're working with limited info. But every single bit of this story smells like shit.
Right I saw that part and it raises eyebrows. And even if there's nothing else shady going on which I doubt, that in and of itself is fucked. A more informed worker would know not to sign over that much of their salary. That's a scam. But hey, that's why they're bussing in people that don't know anything about the country so they can exploit them easier.
But the problem is that the trend in wages is the opposite of what you'd predict. Doesn't that cause you to question the narrative at least a little and increase your general curiosity?
I'm not saying its impossible that something fishy or even illegal is happening, I just don't think Nomani presented anywhere near enough evidence to make her case.
But again so many details are missing here that there's enough doubt to assume any number of things. You said yourself that some of these positions might pay as low as $15Right I saw that part and it raises eyebrows. And even if there's nothing else shady going on which I doubt, that in and of itself is fucked. A more informed worker would know not to sign over that much of their salary. That's a scam. But hey, that's why they're bussing in people that don't know anything about the country so they can exploit them easier.
If we assume that the position the migrant has is for a $15/hr job and he's getting paid $12.50 that's $2.50 for the staffing agency which seems more or less in line with the industry standard. If its closer to $20 then the staffing agency's cut seems more abnormal. Even though my understanding is that for temp positions staffing agencies take a bigger cut so even then it might not be out of the ordinary.
Its not just one puzzle piece removed, most of the puzzle pieces are missing here.
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No, they're more reasons to strengthen worker protections.
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They recognized that if you cannot turn this trend around, it accelerates as the local factories either move to another city area with a growing population or shut down and instead of letting Springfield become the next midwest town on the 'Ghost Towns' tours, they decided to try to do something about it.
If you have enough money you just move immediately but not everyone can.
Immigration has been high while both parties are in power. Regan had his amnesty and serious anti immigration Republicans were ostracized like Tom Tancredo right until 2016. And, of course, no one can say that the dems aren’t the party of mass immigration. That’s why people have been so freaked out about trump, in part, because he is more genuinely anti-mass immigration than any other major player
