Crime Springfield, Ohio: migrant workers from Haiti exploited

[Hdfi]

One more reason to send them back to Haiti.

 

[Prefect]

You make solid points, but we're talking about massive scale here.

This isn't massive scale. There are around 20 million legal foreign born works working in the U.S.. Around another 12 million working illegally.

 

[gonads20]

Here is my issue. Springfield, Ohio has like 50000 people. Who thinks its a good idea to put 10 to 15 thousand legal or illegal haitians there? Having that many people in that small city is a terrible idea. The Haitians are less likely to assimilate when they can create their own mini Haiti in Springfield.

 

[Hdfi]

Here is my issue. Springfield, Ohio has like 50000 people. Who thinks its a good idea to put 10 to 15 thousand legal or illegal haitians there? Having that many people in that small city is a terrible idea. The Haitians are less likely to assimilate when they can create their own mini Haiti in Springfield.

The idea is to destroy Springfield. Liberals know exactly what they are doing.

 

[Bia]

its like the birds and cats stories, only a few being xploited so it's a nothing burger story..

 

[koquerelle]

This isn't massive scale. There are around 20 million legal foreign born works working in the U.S.. Around another 12 million working illegally.

I think it's massive scale when you talk about 15-18k migrants in a small city, but I see your point.

 

[koquerelle]

Knowing you’re a hard leftie I just can’t take your word for the “no homo” part bro.

Please be joking.

 

[Koro_11]

Well I appreciated it @koquerelle, way better than most of the drivel shared the moment most Sherdoggers first heard of Springfield, Ohio (ie, last week, when everyone became an expert on Haitian antisocial cuisine )

The thing that struck me though was that guy profiteering from poor immigrants in his million dollar house... imagine how many people one has to exploit to own a billion dollar house.

We live in a fucked up world where outrageous profiteering has long, long been normalized.

First you say it’s million dollar house, then you say it’s a billion house… those 3 extra zeros are a big difference.

What’s your solution to ending profiteering?

 

[Koro_11]

..

What are you so amused by, that I put illegal migrants and criminals together? Do you understand what the word illegal means? By being an illegal migrant, you are breaking the law of the country you’re in by definition. And then, of course, the fact that many (not all)of these people are also breaking other laws while in the country.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Here is my issue. Springfield, Ohio has like 50000 people. Who thinks its a good idea to put 10 to 15 thousand legal or illegal haitians there? Having that many people in that small city is a terrible idea. The Haitians are less likely to assimilate when they can create their own mini Haiti in Springfield.

No one is putting them there. They are going there because they have connections to other people do. This is how society works. Lots of individual people deciding things for their own reasons.

 

[skysolo]

That picture is missing the non-working class leftists intellectual weasel standing behind the working class guy, and insisting that he share his cooking with the migrant.

Very clever. The weasel is asking you to share while not sharing his 2 cookies.

You seem to miss the one guy in the middle with all of the cookies. You only focus on another person who may be one step above pleb but still not as many cookies as the oligarch.

The "non-working class leftists intellectual" you made up might be a "weasel" but they aren't the ones causing the inequality. You're distracting from the main point by making someone other than the one hoarding all of the cookies the bad guy.

You are being manipulated by Judge Alvin Valkenheiser.

 

[Rational Poster]

No one is putting them there. They are going there because they have connections to other people do. This is how society works. Lots of individual people deciding things for their own reasons.

Quite a lot of Haitians in NJ, I wonder who put them here it was a great idea. All the Haitians I work with are pretty cool and awesome workers. I wish they would eat the geese outside my building they're always shitting all over the sidewalk and getting in the way when you try to leave the lot.

 

[Dalarna3]

What do people think the economics of this kind of immigration look like? One side wants them for votes, the other for economic exploitation.

 

[Mike]

Isn’t this the whole point of migrant labour? To exploit them, so that we can drive down wages? Who else will clean our toilets and replace our roofs, and most of all, pick our fruit

And they literally say this is why we need them

They don't even try to hide what it is they're doing, yet people will tell you with a straight face nobody is "importing" a subclass of people to drive down wages for the working class.

To some people if the migrants are in actual need then there's no way our government is using them. They're helping them out of the goodness of their heart, just like they do here.

Oh wait...

 

[Seano]

How so? Migrants stuffed in dilapidated houses where a grifter takes a cut of their salary is the norm?!?

Maybe not the norm but not uncommon either.

Used to happen up here a lot on our chicken farms. Immigrants would take jobs working on these farms and what would happen was you'd have 3 or 4 families of immigrants living in a trailer with a room being part of their compensation. They'd end up getting paid like 2 dollars/hour.

 

[Mike]

Here is my issue. Springfield, Ohio has like 50000 people. Who thinks its a good idea to put 10 to 15 thousand legal or illegal haitians there? Having that many people in that small city is a terrible idea. The Haitians are less likely to assimilate when they can create their own mini Haiti in Springfield.

And people even want to champion it like it's a positive. The first thing myself and other blue collar guys said is why were people leaving this town in droves? Why didn't anyone in the town want to work these jobs? Why didn't anyone want to move there to work them? I live in a city where a large percentage of people I meet in my line of work moved across the country to get here like I did.

It's not like Americans won't pick up and move for a job. Most of the people I grew up with have all had to do it. Most likely, they couldn't get any American citizens to come work this job because of low pay and or safety issues.

 

[Mike]

"One Haitian man I interviewed asked to be anonymous for fear of retaliation and recalled how he was picked up by a driver for one of Ten’s vans on a street corner near a Winn-Dixie grocery store in Immokalee, Florida. After the long journey to Springfield, he was dropped off at a rundown home on Rice Street, infested with cockroaches. He soon found work through First Diversity at Jefferson Industries Corporation, earning $12.50 an hour; he didn’t know how much George skimmed off his wages. The home he lived in had no working heat, and he bought an electric heater to survive the cold Ohio winter, the heater barely heating his room."


Aaaand there it is. The thing all of us working class people expected in the first place. They imported these people to live in tenement housing while making $12.50 an hour. Like I said.


$12.50. Yeah no fucking wonder all the local residents would rather leave than work for an employer so shitty they'll just mass import people from the third world so they can get them to work today for the wages from 20 years ago.

It's EXACTLY what we told you it was. Rich greasy douchebags importing indentured servants because Americans don't want to do manual labor for long hours for shit pay. In Nevada you can't even get a high school kid to run a cash register for $12.50 an hour.

@Gutter Chris check it out the
exact bullshit they tried to act like I was crazy for saying.

 

[Koro_11]

Very clever. The weasel is asking you to share while not sharing his 2 cookies.

You seem to miss the one guy in the middle with all of the cookies. You only focus on another person who may be one step above pleb but still not as many cookies as the oligarch.

The "non-working class leftists intellectual" you made up might be a "weasel" but they aren't the ones causing the inequality. You're distracting from the main point by making someone other than the one hoarding all of the cookies the bad guy.

You are being manipulated by Judge Alvin Valkenheiser.

I'm not missing him, he's already in the picture but what about him? He's got more cookies than me? Ok, well did he steal them from someone else? If he did he should be forced to give them back, but if they're his cookies then they're his cookies.

Also he's not "hoarding" all the cookies, there are virtually an infinite amount of cookies out there, and if you really want some of the oligarch's cookies then come up with a product or provide a service that the oligarch needs and he will happily give you some of his cookies.

This childish talk about "equity" and "equality" in real life is such a naive way of thinking. You think there's fairness and equality in anything? Is it fair that I'm only 6' tall with average athleticism while LeBron James is 6'8" with a 50 inch vertical leap? Is it fair that Brad Pitt is more handsome than me and no one wants to pay me millions just to be cute and say some shit on camera? Is it fair that Brian Shaw can pick up a car, but I gotta struggle just picking up my tire?

There isn't equality in anything else, so why in the world would there be equality in wealth, especially when there's no equality in effort?

So yeah, that leftist intellectual turd like AOC telling you you're poor cause the rich guy is hoarding all the dough is lying to you. There's not some limited amount out there and that guy is not taking from you by being wealthy... new houses are being built every day and new money is being printed every day. Find your own way to get rich instead of resenting those who are.

 

[Jack V Savage]

They don't even try to hide what it is they're doing, yet people will tell you with a straight face nobody is "importing" a subclass of people to drive down wages for the working class.

To some people if the migrants are in actual need then there's no way our government is using them. They're helping them out of the goodness of their heart, just like they do here.

Oh wait...

The problem with this take (and I don’t expect rationality or decency from you guys so it will go unaddressed) is that wages in Springfield are up. More than average. If the Haitians are making low wages, what does that mean for everyone else? This is simple logic.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The problem with this take (and I don’t expect rationality or decency from you guys so it will go unaddressed) is that wages in Springfield are up. More than average. If the Haitians are making low wages, what does that mean for everyone else? This is simple logic.

The minimum wage in Ohio is $10.45 so the fact that the migrants are getting jobs that pay above that isn't exactly evidence that they're getting paid slave wages.