No one ducked no one

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Jon Jones didn't duck Ngannou. Nor did Ngannou duck Jon Jones. It's all business. They recognized the risk of the fight, knew that was one of the biggest fights ever in the UFC, with a lot to loss both in regards to health issues as they are both nasty when they dominate a fight... And that's it... A fighter will risk until a certain point, there's obviously the passion for martial arts, for fighting, challenging, goal... There is also of course the money part. When a fighter is growing up, they want to be as active, as they're fresher than later on in terms of battle scars, and haven't gotten much money yet.

Jon Jones said Ngannou was scaring, and that there's a possibility that Ngannou could break his jaw. But that he was also confident he has the tools to survive this first round, then use his versatility, with take downs, clinch, to tire Ngannou and win. Jon Jones though had already defeated everyone at LHW, broke the record for most title defenses and never lost a fight. He was already a big name, had already gotten more money. Ngannou was a huge threat but he was still rising up, he was still not so well known, not so marketable in the sense of many ppl knowing him. So Jones had much more to lose given that situation.

Dana ended up making a deal that Jon Jones agreed with. Ngannou had already, since before the first Miocic fight, annoyed Dana White making him pink with his fits he even trembles on the mic of anger. They were in bad terms, Dana was making bad stuff in regards to having Ngannou fight little, etc etc and it was just growing up. Jon Jones found the deal fair enough, but Ngannou had more to lose in that moment as he was being mistreated by Dana, who said his plan was to cut Francis after his, as per Dana, "awful boring fight vs Derrick Lewis". Much like Jon Jones, he wanted a fight of that height to be worth it financially at least because, as Ngannou said, if Jon Jones won, they'd be done with him. So he was like "why'd I fight there knowing I have to win to stay... I want money, and a reformulation with the health care of fighters, events in Africa".

Dana flipped the narrative. Back when Ngannou KO'd Stipe, Dana said that Jon Jones, after witnessing that performance, might think he'd better move to 185... Because Jon Jones said "show me the money to fight Ngannou".

My theory is that Jon Jones accepted the offer, which was allegedly the highest payments JJ would get out of all his fights, so JJ went there to fight. Ngannou was the one in the situation with more to lose though...


... At the end, those fighters aren't afraid because they know they are gonna lose, lol ppl are silly... They just don't want that their body of sacrifice, with pretty much guaranteed future bad consequences, to not be worth it in a match that is both big and dangerous in regards to health, reputation (in JJ's case, way more ofc)...

Tbh, I think both JJ and Ngannou were totally in the right, they're the ones sacrificing their blood and health, and putting in the work in training.

That's it.
 
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We need more threads like this!
They are very interesting. (no sarcasm).
 
Jon never "Ducked" Ngannou and Francis never "Ducked" Jon.

Here is the simplicity of it all. The only fighter obligated to fight a specific fighter is the champion of any division. They are obligated to fight the Legit #1 contender. Sometimes that status is (#1 contender) is unclear as in the case of a clear #1 who recently lost to the champion. Sometimes is is dubious like a non top 10 fighter (Khalil) being given a shot with a full camp (not shot notice) after a clear #1 is booked in another fight like Ank.

Jon was never a HW while Francis was champion. He wasn't champion so he can't Duck. He wasn't even a HW so Francis could not have "Ducked"

The statement no one ducked no one is patently false however. Jon is holding the UFC Undisputed HW title and he to this point has refused to fight Tom Aspinal. Quack Quack
 
He waited until Francis left to start his transition to HW. That's unlikely to be a coincidence. Before that he said that the 10M offered wasn't enough to fight Ngannou (no evidence Jon accepted the fight. There's only evidence that he declined, since he said 10M wasn't enough). He got 3.6M when he beat DC the first time, according to the antitrust lawsuit (disclosed pay was 500K), so 10M was 3x his usual payout. I wish the payouts for the HW bouts with Gane and Miocic were released, because if they're way under 10M, it confirms he ducked Ngannou. In the history books, it should say that he avoided the fight with Ngannou, because from a sports perspective he did.
Maybe he was trying to get his justified payday for such a huge fight, but he still avoided a fight that Francis for a long time was willing to take. Therefore one ducked the other. Everything about Francis leaving the UFC is irrelevant, because he'd already waited years for Jones by then. There's no reason for him to believe Jones will sign the fight, when Jones for 3 years had only shown signs of avoiding the fight. Ngannou waited out his contract, because by then he'd already sacrificed time, if he fought someone else he'd be stuck in a UFC contract again and then be waiting for JJ to come up, which maybe never happens, because JJ didn't want the fight. JJ probs just stays at LHW if Ngannou stays in the UFC.

Now he's ducking Aspinall. When Tom was polite, he wasn't interested. When Tom started trash talking, he claimed Tom was too rude. He claimed nobody is interested in Aspinall, then fights Miocic who nobody cared about. Now he's talking about Poatan, who isn't a HW and isn't the interim champ and unlike Tom has never been ranked #1 at HW. He's not the undisputed best HW - he's not fought the two top HWs of his HW era.
 
It’s just funny Jon demands like 30 million to fight Francis and doesn’t. Then the millisecond Francis leaves, Jon rushes back for less than 1/10th his original ask for a favorable matchup against a white belt grappler.

He would get the benefit of the doubt maybe if he wasn’t refusing to fight an interim champion, while champ himself and inventing new excuses every day. It’s clear to most at this point in his career, he only wants favorable matchups. I don’t blame him and after the career he had, that’s fine but not while he holds a belt.
 
Sherdog: "Fighters need to be paid more!"
Jon Jones: *asks for more money*
Sherdog: "NOT LIKE THAT!!!"

Lol

In reality...

Sherdog:: Pay the man. We just want to see the fight.

Dana: We will make it happen.

Jon: ...

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The statement no one ducked no one is patently false however. Jon is holding the UFC Undisputed HW title and he to this point has refused to fight Tom Aspinal. Quack Quack
i thought he agreed
 
Jones ducked Francis. That's just a fact.
Francis left the UFC because he wanted to box. That's just a fact.
Jones is now ducking Aspinall. For now, that's just an opinion. But I believe the fact of it will be borne out.

For what it's worth, I have no problem with a fighter not wanting to fight up in weight. But just say it. Don't duck fights then pretend to be the HW champ. Only suckers will buy that nonsense, and even the suckers are starting to see the light.
 
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