Islam has surpassed Fedor

[forsh]

Fedor was undefeated at heavyweight for a decade in the biggest MMA organization of the time. Heavyweight, where every person has one shot knockout power, naw Islam isn't more impressive that that. Look at all of these people in the comments here who think the UFC was always the #1 fight organization in the world with the top fighters, a lot of MMA newbies who need to educate themselves. Every one of thse morons should be demoted to White Belt.

 

[Siver!]

We have never seen a fighter be this dominant in the modern era of mma. Fedor was fighting bums like yuji nagata and looking pretty mid if I gotta say, and now we have a guy like Islam who dominated the former p4p number 1 guy volk twice, and now he moves up in weight on short notice to destroy the dominant ww champ.


People have tried to sneak diss on islam for a hot minute now but these guys gotta realize that islam is a modern mma marvel. Its not often that we get to see a one of a kind historical greatness fighter like him taking out top guys across all weight classes. Fedor never did this, chuck never did this, nate diaz never did this, and we gotta agree that rich franklin never did this.



Just face the facts bro. Islam just proved he is the greatest fighter of all time. The world waits to see who hes gonna dominate next.

Every crop of fighters has a "greatest" and Islam is probably it for this current crop. A really, really compelling crop will have two really solid contenders (GSP, Anderson for example).

But ALL TIME?

You've got to capture the hearts and minds, you need the highlight reel of all highlight reels, and Islam is absolutely nowhere near Fedor.

The closest someone ever came was Khabib. He had mystique. He had the HUGE rivalry and win over Conor. Islam has none of that going on. He's a solid top 5, but better than Fedor? Nope. And I don't think he ever will be.

 

[volcom5]

Volk's whole frame is midget. He is not just short. Stop embarrassing yourself.

crazy how that midget walks around to similar weight as the Giant Makhachev and somehow has a longer reach. Crazy man.

My point was the fact people shit on Makhachev for beating an elite fighter like a Volkanovski a champion and was number 1 in the world at the time, yes who is smaller. But then praise Fedor for beating Randleman who fought at lower weight also and claiming he was a MONSTER HW. Theres a double standard with a Fedor always had been. You tell me Coleman at 39 who hasn’t had a great win streak since 2000-01 who fought Fedor in 2004 was a elite win and wasnt on his way out?, but consider Poirier at 36 washed when he just came off s amazing win against a young up and comer and gave Makhachev all he could handle, while Coleman does what he always did and gets subbed.

You knows what crazy, most fighters as they age tend to move up,

Somehow Randleman and Coleman “legit HW’s” ended their careers at LHW, weird.

 

[DumpsterBaby]

Big awkward Tim who was getting knocked around by a 40 years old man half his size a few fights prior and knocked out in under a minute by an out of shape boxer in his first MMA fight in his next ?
Middleweight Lindland, who he needed the ropes not to get taken down by ?
1 dimensional wrestlers with awful submission defence Coleman and Randleman, who still easily took him down ?

Those are the exemple you want to use to show that Fedor fought the best of the best in the golden age of MMA ?

Taking someone down doesn’t win fights. It’s that shitty American wrestler way of thinking that takedowns are even significant. I never said it was the Golden Era of ability, but definitely the Golden Era of the product. I don’t see how you can even argue that.

They were the best at the time when the sport was still being pioneered. Who else was he supposed to fight? Islam had the opportunity to come up watching old fights in a sport that was already 10 years established… and he still lays on people.

Don’t have anything to say about the legends he beat though, huh?

 

[Prazeres]

Taking someone down doesn’t win fights. It’s that shitty American wrestler way of thinking that takedowns are even significant. I never said it was the Golden Era of ability, but definitely the Golden Era of the product. I don’t see how you can even argue that.

They were the best at the time when the sport was still being pioneered. Who else was he supposed to fight? Islam had the opportunity to come up watching old fights in a sport that was already 10 years established… and he still lays on people.

Don’t have anything to say about the legends he beat though, huh?

If greatness is determined by how well fighters are marketed and the excitement surrounding them then Conor is the goat

 

[DumpsterBaby]

If greatness is determined by how well fighters are marketed and the excitement surrounding them then Conor is the goat

What? Did you just compare Conor to Fedor? What marketing did Fedor get that wasn’t based completely off of merit and the way he fought? Fedor would’ve been a nightmare to market because he never said anything exciting or even interesting.

Conor is a classless, morally bankrupt clown that turned MMA into prize fighting with zero integrity or character.

 

[Prazeres]

What? Did you just compare Conor to Fedor?

You talked about how Fedor was greater because he was in a "the Golden Era of the product", implying that notoriority was a criteria for greatness

What marketing did Fedor get that wasn’t based completely off of merit and the way he fought?

Conor also became a star because of how he fought, the people love first round knockouts.

Conor is a classless, morally bankrupt clown that turned MMA into prize fighting with zero integrity or character.

So now moral character is a criteria for greatness as a fighter.
So to be the greatest you have to be a nice guy that beat well known guys (regardless of how good they actually are)

 

[SlomiGa]

Lol. Hell no. Shame on you for even suggesting somehow that Islam could ever surpass Fedor.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Remember when Fedor held guys down and won boring decisions? He fought fire with fire and almost always got the finish. Even in his twilight, it was kill or be killed. Islam has a fantastic resume and is well rounded but he's no Fedor.

 

[Severen]

Randleman also was LHW.

Only thing small about Volkanovski is his height.

Not sure why you are so fixated on Randleman when he wasn't even a top 5 win on Fedor's Resume, while Volk is probably Islam's best win. Your argument is trash. Fedor has a bunch of legit HW wins. Islam's best win is a FW moving up in his first fight and a midget one at that. Conor Mcregor has a better resume than Islam, so forget about Fedor.

 

[volcom5]

Not sure why you are so fixated on Randleman when he wasn't even a top 5 win on Fedor's Resume,

Doesnt have 5 Because Fedor only has four top wins.

while Volk is probably Islam's best win. Your argument is trash. Fedor has a bunch of legit HW wins.

Noguiera, Cro Cop, Arlovski, Sylvia. They are legit.

Islam's best win is a FW moving up in his first fight and a midget one at that. Conor Mcregor has a better resume than Islam, so forget about Fedor.

Theres no argueing that Mcgregor has good resume, he does.

My whole point was that anytime a fighter is compared to Fedor Emelianenko, theres a double standard.

Merab has a better resume than Fedor and Makhachev.

 

[P4p Islam]

A good handful of fighters has already surpassed Fedor, Fedor hasn’t been in a honest legit conversation of being the Greatest of All Time since 2015. Has Makhachev surpassed him, i don’t know. But if we’re being honest Makhachev resume lacks wins over a Champions, but given the circumstances in the division during his come up, it makes sense..

Bro he derailed volks career. People acted like volk was p4p number 1 before and islam almost killed him twice.

 

[P4p Islam]

Very close but fedor was the #1 in all of mma.

Islam is the #1 at ww.

Fedor was never a champ champ though.


So......youre dumb?

 

[P4p Islam]

Remember when Fedor held guys down and won boring decisions? He fought fire with fire and almost always got the finish. Even in his twilight, it was kill or be killed. Islam has a fantastic resume and is well rounded but he's no Fedor.

Lol fedor got sent to the shadow realm by a mw

 

[Preston broadus]

Fedor was never a champ champ though.


So......youre dumb?

Clean your room

Bathe

Exercise

Meditate

 

[Discjockeyshtud]

We have never seen a fighter be this dominant in the modern era of mma. Fedor was fighting bums like yuji nagata and looking pretty mid if I gotta say, and now we have a guy like Islam who dominated the former p4p number 1 guy volk twice, and now he moves up in weight on short notice to destroy the dominant ww champ.


People have tried to sneak diss on islam for a hot minute now but these guys gotta realize that islam is a modern mma marvel. Its not often that we get to see a one of a kind historical greatness fighter like him taking out top guys across all weight classes. Fedor never did this, chuck never did this, nate diaz never did this, and we gotta agree that rich franklin never did this.



Just face the facts bro. Islam just proved he is the greatest fighter of all time. The world waits to see who hes gonna dominate next.

Pride didn't have a superheavyweight division, Heavyweights don't get to be champ champ.

Fedor fought when MMA was experimental, Islam had a very well defined path.

I don't necessarily disagree though, i think Islam is closing in on the GOAT of the modern era and Fedor is absolutely the GOAT of the classic era.

 

[BowserJr]

We have never seen a fighter be this dominant in the modern era of mma. Fedor was fighting bums like yuji nagata and looking pretty mid if I gotta say, and now we have a guy like Islam who dominated the former p4p number 1 guy volk twice, and now he moves up in weight on short notice to destroy the dominant ww champ.


People have tried to sneak diss on islam for a hot minute now but these guys gotta realize that islam is a modern mma marvel. Its not often that we get to see a one of a kind historical greatness fighter like him taking out top guys across all weight classes. Fedor never did this, chuck never did this, nate diaz never did this, and we gotta agree that rich franklin never did this.



Just face the facts bro. Islam just proved he is the greatest fighter of all time. The world waits to see who hes gonna dominate next.

JDM is the easiest top 10 matchup aside from Leon.

Islam loses to everyone else

His LW title run is pretty weak too BTW

 

[P4p Islam]

Pride didn't have a superheavyweight division, Heavyweights don't get to be champ champ.

Fedor fought when MMA was experimental, Islam had a very well defined path.

I don't necessarily disagree though, i think Islam is closing in on the GOAT of the modern era and Fedor is absolutely the GOAT of the classic era.

Bro he coulda cut weight. Looking back historically he never cared to get in shape and fight top competition.


Kind of a low effort look imo

 

[Nabs]

Sigh...

 

[Nabs]

Fedor got mauled by fabio maldanado

You mean Grandpa Fedor, right?