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My point was you can not be a freak athlete and still get accolades in the NFL. Hardy didn't even have a top 100 most impressive combine for his draft class alone, there was nothing A-level about him from an NFL athletic standpoint and here he currently is almost a decade removed from his NFL peak (Hardy in 2022 is not A-level at anything so I don't know why people keep talking about it).

Sherdog over-values NFL players even though within the NFL itself there's a huge gap from Hardy to someone like Quinn or Miller. With there logic Brock is signficantly inferior to Hardy because Brock didn't make active roster and Hardy did which is a joke. Talent pool is so weak at 205 and HW that half this forum will over-rated guys from other sports which I don't think is smart

No one is suggesting hardy is the same caliber of “athlete” from a combine statistics standpoint as some other top players. But just being athletic enough on the d-line to make all-pro is a pretty select group.

I am not a huge proponent of “athlete” being some defined term that means only one thing. There are lots of things that make an athlete.

And of course I would never put hardy on a pedestal relative to brock as an “athlete”.

Hardy was a very good, big, athlete. But I certainly agree that the idea of just being an “athlete” is enough to be dominant in mma is silly. Even if he was a much higher caliber “athlete” like a parsons it wouldn’t be easy to transition and succeed in mma. So we aren’t far off in our thinking.
 
His ground game was on par with Hondas striking

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Plenty of power but lacked discipline
 
He did a little better than C.M. Punk. But, is anyone surprised that a recognizable "name", pushed too soon and with not enough training, couldn't cut it in the UFC?

Jarl
 
He will get picked up elsewhere, get better, pad his record a bit, and come back. He has holes in his game he needs to work on. He will be ok
 
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