Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread v4

[PolishHeadlock2]

I think he'd be a solid pick, although VP is basically an electability pick and his Hispanic heritage, very-liberal views on immigration, and lacking of ties to any swing state could be dicey. He might boost the Latino vote, but I doubt he'd do anything to help swing Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc. I also suspect, even though he comes off as extremely sincere and non-slimy to me, that many...err, centrists, would have the opposite opinion.

Saw another good suggestion about tapping him to run and reform DHS if the Dems win.

 

[Trotsky]

Saw another good suggestion about tapping him to run and reform DHS if the Dems win.

Yes, I would very much support that idea. He easily has the best understanding of immigration law and enforcement of any of the candidates.

 

[Trotsky]

 

[Jack V Savage]

So go to the most pro-Bernie youtube channel Secular Talk with Kyle.....

Jimmy Dore meanwhile recently has been propping up Yang and criticizing Bernie a lot.

Are there no political YouTube shows not hosted by idiots?

Yes, I would very much support that idea. He easily has the best understanding of immigration law and enforcement of any of the candidates.

He'd be acceptable, but as a general rule, I don't like the idea of looking at politicians (or especially limiting the pool to politicians and most especially limiting it to presidential candidates) to fill positions that require expertise that isn't really related to politics.

 

[BarryDillon]

 

[glenwo2]

 

[Sano]

No reaction to Bernie SHATTERING fundraising records again? 5 million donations overall and $34 million dollars in the 4Q alone, that is INSANE. Add to that with an average of about $18 average donation. Crazy stuff.

EDIT: @BarryDillon at least posted it as well. Even CNN can't deny it!

 

[method115]

No reaction to Bernie SHATTERING fundraising records again? 5 million donations overall and $34 million dollars in the 4Q alone, that is INSANE. Add to that with an average of about $18 average donation. Crazy stuff.

EDIT: @BarryDillon at least posted it as well. Even CNN can't deny it!

It's pretty crazy and the media has sort of woken up to the fact that Bernie is pulling in crazy #'s since last week.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[Phisher]

In before some moron who doesn't realize that teachers work for independent government entities at the state and local level tries to "debunk" this by pointing at the employers.

 

[Phisher]

It's pretty crazy and the media has sort of woken up to the fact that Bernie is pulling in crazy #'s since last week.

They were deliberately ignoring him in the hopes that he would go away. They're only building him up now to try to tear him down before the voting starts.

There are several examples of outlets deliberately misreporting the polls to make him look




It's pretty funny to see some of the pundits already backtracking on their previous dismissals.





On a side note, LOL @ the notion that Sanders' base doesn't care about policy differences. That's just as fraudulent as the notion that Trump never mentioned policy and only won because of bigotry.

Amazing how much these people get paid to talk out of their asses all day long.

 

[sickc0d3r]

No reaction to Bernie SHATTERING fundraising records again? 5 million donations overall and $34 million dollars in the 4Q alone, that is INSANE. Add to that with an average of about $18 average donation. Crazy stuff.

EDIT: @BarryDillon at least posted it as well. Even CNN can't deny it!

To me he’s clearly the best candidate if you think turnout is the key to beating Trump, which I definitely do.

 

[Trotsky]

To me he’s clearly the best candidate if you think turnout is the key to beating Trump, which I definitely do.

Yeah, it's weird to me how this concept - enthusiasm over broader palatability - is still so utterly ignored by so many Democrats/voters.

 

[Phisher]

Yeah, it's weird to me how this concept - enthusiasm over broader palatability - is still so utterly ignored by so many Democrats/voters.

Because there's been a massive propaganda campaign to blame Clinton's loss on Bernie-or-busters instead of the reality that 10 million 2012 Obama voters either stayed home or defected to Trump because they didn't like Hillary.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Yeah, it's weird to me how this concept - enthusiasm over broader palatability - is still so utterly ignored by so many Democrats/voters.

Yeah, I feel like this election in particular has very little middle ground to work with. There’s no use worrying about recruiting people. Bernie will get pretty much everyone who voted for Hillary and has the under 35 demo wrapped up like a Gordita, they just need to show up.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Because there's been a massive propaganda campaign to blame Clinton's loss on Bernie-or-busters instead of the reality that 10 million 2012 Obama voters either stayed home or defected to Trump because they didn't like Hillary.

Well Bernie won the 3 states that gave the election to Trump by a few thousand votes, so I’m pretty sure a lot of those Obama voters that stayed home supported Bernie.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

No reaction to Bernie SHATTERING fundraising records again? 5 million donations overall and $34 million dollars in the 4Q alone, that is INSANE. Add to that with an average of about $18 average donation. Crazy stuff.

EDIT: @BarryDillon at least posted it as well. Even CNN can't deny it!

It took President Trump less than two days to raise $13 million.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...er-pelosi-impeachment-announcement-2019-09-26

While Bernie's accomplishment is worth noting, it's hardly game-changing.

 

[Trotsky]

Yeah, I feel like this election in particular has very little middle ground to work with. There’s no use worrying about recruiting people. Bernie will get pretty much everyone who voted for Hillary and has the under 35 demo wrapped up like a Gordita, they just need to show up.

Yeah, the generational aspect is THE prevailing narrative in the Democratic primary imo: whether a candidate favored by voters <35 (Sanders or Warren) can finally prevail over a candidate preferred by fucking Boomers (Biden or Buttigieg). Or whether, instead, we in fact move backwards to the most relatively conservative and unpopular with young voters Democratic candidate since....shit, Jimmy Carter I guess?

 

[method115]

It took President Trump less than two days to raise $13 million.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...er-pelosi-impeachment-announcement-2019-09-26

While Bernie's accomplishment is worth noting, it's hardly game-changing.

That's not really the same. Trump isn't competing with anyone for fundraising.

 

[sickc0d3r]

It took President Trump less than two days to raise $13 million.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...er-pelosi-impeachment-announcement-2019-09-26

While Bernie's accomplishment is worth noting, it's hardly game-changing.

Trumps the incumbent and Bernie’s competing with a whole field of candidates.