International Zelensky Rejects Trump's Idiotic "Minerals Deal" - Might Tell The US to go F*ck Itself

[nostradumbass]

They didn't have a nuke or Iron dome and managed to stave off a much larger Russian military for 3 years.

You've yet to give ANY reason Ukraine should sign this minerals deal.

Seems pretty damn obvious. For the short term, the obvious benefit is that they stop getting blown up, unless you literally don't care at all about poor people getting killed by the hundreds of thousands. The long term benefit is the US invests in the mining costs that they wouldn't have been able to afford and shares the proceeds with them, which would help cover the massive rebuilding costs that they also would never be able to afford otherwise, and keeps Americans on the ground which comes with the US protecting their interests there.

The benefits are more for the people than for Zelensky himself, which is why he doesn't want it, and on the financial end, he really doesn't want anything with American comanies keeping records where he can't just lose a billion here and a billion there to launder and pass around.

 

[Hog-train]

Seems pretty damn obvious. For the short term, the obvious benefit is that they stop getting blown up, unless you literally don't care at all about poor people getting killed by the hundreds of thousands. The long term benefit is the US invests in the mining costs that they wouldn't have been able to afford and shares the proceeds with them, which would help cover the massive rebuilding costs that they also would never be able to afford otherwise, and keeps Americans on the ground which comes with the US protecting their interests there.

How does signing the minerals deal stop them from getting blown up? The minerals deal just benefits US billionaires. That deal wouldn't by itself have anything to do with peace.

Ukraine can negotiate a peace deal with no minerals deal at all.

 

[nostradumbass]

How does signing the minerals deal stop them from getting blown up? The minerals deal just benefits US billionaires. That deal wouldn't by itself have anything to do with peace.

Ukraine can negotiate a peace deal with no minerals deal at all.

You think the US is going to invest billions into mining operations and then let Russia come and take it? What in the absolute fuck? As we all know, Hunter Biden has extensive experience in Ukrainian mining, so maybe he can head up the operation.

They can try to negotiate whatever they want, but with no US interest there other than emotional screeching from white libs, they can negotiate without any help from us, which means they'll take whatever the fuck Russia tells them to, or they can burn through another couple hundred thousands conscripts and Russia can just take it from them.

 

[TheGreatA]

Zelensky has said repeatedly that he wants to sign the deal anyway. He just hasn't had the opportunity to do it. It's Trump who kicked him out, it's not like he left the deal on the table on his own.

 

[Snubnoze707]

LOL @ Zelenskyy grovelling

 

[Scerpi]

You say that like United States businesses and citizens weren't already invested in Ukraine prior to the war.

And several US politicians...

 

[Scerpi]

LOL @ Zelenskyy grovelling

After this yesterday...

Ukraine’s Zelenskyy says end of war with Russia is ‘very, very far away​

Ukraine's Zelenskyy says end of war with Russia is 'very, very far away'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says a deal to end the war between Ukraine and Russia “is still very, very far away."

apnews.com

Someone got a reality check...

 

[Crazy Source]

How does signing the minerals deal stop them from getting blown up? The minerals deal just benefits US billionaires. That deal wouldn't by itself have anything to do with peace.

Ukraine can negotiate a peace deal with no minerals deal at all.

Hey, if you can't take advantage of your allies when they are fighting for their very existence, what kind of ally are you?

 

[Hog-train]

You think the US is going to invest billions into mining operations and then let Russia come and take it? What in the absolute fuck? As we all know, Hunter Biden has extensive experience in Ukrainian mining, so maybe he can head up the operation.

They can try to negotiate whatever they want, but with no US interest there other than emotional screeching from white libs, they can negotiate without any help from us, which means they'll take whatever the fuck Russia tells them to, or they can burn through another couple hundred thousands conscripts and Russia can just take it from them.

So if the US is going to invest billions, why can't they also give a security guarantee or agree to a peacekeeping force there?

That's not a good enough deal- "Give us 500 billion in minerals. Oh trust us we're building mining operations here so they won't attack, even though I refuse to give security guarantees. Wink wink."

LMAO what kind of bullshit deal is that.

You Putin ball lickers are hilarious.

 

[nostradumbass]

So if the US is going to invest billions, why can't they also give a security guarantee or agree to a peacekeeping force there?

That's not a good enough deal- "Give us 500 billion in minerals. Oh trust us we're building mining operations here so they won't attack, even though I refuse to give security guarantees. Wink wink."

LMAO what kind of bullshit deal is that.

You Putin ball lickers are hilarious.

What kind of dickless clown argues against your own country getting any benefit at all from dumping billions of tax dollars into an endless proxy war in the most corrupt country in Europe?

Cool, if it's "not a good enough deal", then get fucked and roll the dice yourself on how long you can abduct your own citizens to get blown up for a war you have 0 chance of winning without the US. Or if Trump is so "pro Putin", he could just do the mineral deal with him, start sending them the weapons and aid and let them take over whatever they want in a week.

We're not committing to setting up a US military base on Russia's border to permanently patrol the fucking Donbas region. What kind of total asshole suggestion is that? You can go over there and patrol it yourself if you'd like and show everyone what a tough guy you are, otherwise we're offering to set up mining operations and help with the rebuild, and if Russia attacks with our mining operations there, it is an act of war on the US. You can take that deal, or you can piss off.

 

[Limbo Pete]

What kind of dickless clown argues against your own country getting any benefit at all from dumping billions of tax dollars into an endless proxy war in the most corrupt country in Europe?

Cool, if it's "not a good enough deal", then get fucked and roll the dice yourself on how long you can abduct your own citizens to get blown up for a war you have 0 chance of winning without the US. Or if Trump is so "pro Putin", he could just do the mineral deal with him, start sending them the weapons and aid and let them take over whatever they want in a week.

It wasn't a deal, it was extortion
And Russia presents an existential threat to democracy worldwide, so any free or free-aspiring people should help resist their expansion

 

[Hog-train]

What kind of dickless clown argues against your own country getting any benefit at all from dumping billions of tax dollars into an endless proxy war in the most corrupt country in Europe?

Cool, if it's "not a good enough deal", then get fucked and roll the dice yourself on how long you can abduct your own citizens to get blown up for a war you have 0 chance of winning without the US. Or if Trump is so "pro Putin", he could just do the mineral deal with him, start sending them the weapons and aid and let them take over whatever they want in a week.

It's called not reneging on our previous promises and standing by your allies. Not stabbing them in the back.

And the US will NOT benefit at all clown. Only billionaires will benefit. You really think American citizens will benefit from this minerals deal? LMAO keep being retarded.

 

[nostradumbass]

It's called not reneging on our previous promises and standing by your allies. Not stabbing them in the back.

And the US will NOT benefit at all clown. Only billionaires will benefit. You really think American citizens will benefit from this minerals deal? LMAO keep being retarded.

Ah, so because Biden took it up the ass, that means every president in the future now also owes bottomless US tax dollars. What a fucking idiot.

And only billionaires benefit from having an alternative source of rare earth minerals instead of depending entirely on China and Taiwan, because clearly nobody but billionaires use computers, vehicles, fuel cells, screens, phones and batteries. How goddamn dumb are you?

 

[rocketskates]

You're talking about World War 3.

World War 3 would be America vs Russia, China, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea etc.

America has no strong allies at this point. I'm not so sure America wins that tbh. They haven't won a war in 80 years.

Well tbf the “wars” that we’ve been fighting were all pretty much unwinnable short of violating the Geneva convention and flattening the countries that we were occupying. In any case, the arrangement that you mentioned above would be an absolute bloodbath and nothing that I hope to see.

Edit: I guess I would say that we won Desert Storm pretty easily, but we should’ve continued into Iraq and just finished Saddam’s regime at that time.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Well tbf the “wars” that we’ve been fighting were all pretty much unwinnable short of violating the Geneva convention

So would world War 3

 

[rocketskates]

So would world War 3

The scenario that you listed would likely be unwinnable on all sides and ultimately just result in nuclear warfare, so I agree with you.

 

[Domitian]

Hey, if you can't take advantage of your allies when they are fighting for their very existence, what kind of ally are you?

NATO isn't putting boots on the ground. You just want them to get ground to dust?

 

[Domitian]

It's called not reneging on our previous promises and standing by your allies. Not stabbing them in the back.

And the US will NOT benefit at all clown. Only billionaires will benefit. You really think American citizens will benefit from this minerals deal? LMAO keep being retarded.

Why would you want the West to invest hundreds of billions of dollars into a losing effort that won't bring a return, will be a failure, and Russia will occupy and annex Ukraine anyway?

 

[Kingz]

Another day. Another Trump W.

Zelensky will sign the deal.

 

[Hog-train]

Why would you want the West to invest hundreds of billions of dollars into a losing effort that won't bring a return, will be a failure, and Russia will occupy and annex Ukraine anyway?

Who TF is talking about investing additional hundreds of billions? I'm talking about giving them some kind of security assurance in return for a minerals deal.

All you people want to just suck Putin's dick and leave Ukraine completely open for another attack in the future. The hell is wrong with you people.