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Who should Usyk fight next?🤔

Both Andre Ward and Terence Crawford have said:
- Once they retire, there's no coming back.
- BUT they would still come back for $100 million.

Lennox Lewis also said he would come back for $100 million.

The truth is, nobody turns down $100 million for one single fight, ever. It's easy to say "I wouldn't take it" when nobody is offering it to you. Once it actually happens, all you can say is "yes".
Marquez reportedly turned down $100 million to fight Pac a 5th time. More recently Wilder turned down a three-fight deal that was worth that same amount of money. It was to fight Breazeale, who he ended up fighting anyway, and 2 fights against Joshua.
 
When Usyk accepted a shitty 30% to fight Fury it spoke volumes. At one point he even said that he was willing to fight Fury for free. Normally this is nonsense but that's how bad he wanted to become the undisputed heavyweight champion. The money has always been secondary for him. He's already one of the Top 3 or Top 5 highest paid fighters in the sport. His career earnings are in the nine figures region. Guys like Crawford & Ward have made nowhere near that even when you combine their total career earnings.

Usyk wrote: “Fury, you talk about greatness in Boxing. At the same time you say ‘give me a lot of money’. Greatness in Boxing is not determined by money, greatness comes from a victorious path. You say that I avoid you, although I never have, and in fact I've come to you. I'm ready to box with you even without any prize money!
 
You dorks calling for Usyk’s retirement should realize Usyk made $50 million for his first fight in Saudi Arabia and $100 million for his second fight. Who the fuck would retire when that kind of money is on the table. Would YOU fucking retire?
I wouldn't because I don't have any significant brain damage. If I had been fighting for decades and worn down, probably? You know fighting actually hurts your body, right. It's not a video game.

I would think getting a ton of money at the end of your career would be when you would retire.


Two more fights is like a 1-1.5 years more of being a pro boxer, and he is already 38 years old. You make it seem like he's retiring out of nowhere.
 
I wouldn't because I don't have any significant brain damage. If I had been fighting for decades and worn down, probably? You know fighting actually hurts your body, right. It's not a video game.

I would think getting a ton of money at the end of your career would be when you would retire.


Two more fights is like a 1-1.5 years more of being a pro boxer, and he is already 38 years old. You make it seem like he's retiring out of nowhere.
Health should always be a fighter's top priority. Earning money is secondary. If you don't have all of your faculties intact then it doesn't matter how much money you've made in your career. You can't fully enjoy it. Top fighters like Usyk already have enough money to retire ten times over. I don't see money keeping him in the game or bringing him out of retirement. Maybe if he was a westerner. Eastern fighters like him tend to have a different mentality. He views professional boxing mainly as a competitive high level sport rather than a business so he sees it more like the amateurs. That's where he came from so it's not unusual from his perspective.
 
Health should always be a fighter's top priority. Earning money is secondary. If you don't have all of your faculties intact then it doesn't matter how much money you've made in your career. You can't fully enjoy it. Top fighters like Usyk already have enough money to retire ten times over. I don't see money keeping him in the game or bringing him out of retirement. Maybe if he was a westerner. Eastern fighters like him tend to have a different mentality. He views professional boxing mainly as a competitive high level sport rather than a business so he sees it more like the amateurs. That's where he came from so it's not unusual from his perspective.

He's already been very clear about his not chasing money at all costs ("Money is the easiest commoditiy to get, it's not a goal per se, etc.").
 
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He was a cruserweight who had beaten a neutered Anthony Joshua .
Usyk even back then was more accomplished than Fury. A two-division champion with recent high profile wins. He also sold plenty of PPVs over in Britain. A 70/30 split for Fury would've been treating him like a mere contender when he was an established champion.
 
Usyk even back then was more accomplished than Fury. A two-division champion with recent high profile wins. He also sold plenty of PPVs over in Britain. A 70/30 split for Fury would've been treating him like a mere contender when he was an established champion.

STILL. He beat a guy twice that a fatty mexican had downed.
 
STILL. He beat a guy twice that a fatty mexican had downed.
And? We've seen bigger upsets than that in the heavyweight division and the sport of boxing as a whole. Joshua immediately rematched him and pretty much pitched a shutout. He avenged it just like Lewis avenged his losses to guys that had no business beating him.
 
And? We've seen bigger upsets than that in the heavyweight division and the sport of boxing as a whole. Joshua immediately rematched him and pretty much pitched a shutout. He avenged it just like Lewis avenged his losses to guys that had no business beating him.

I wouldn't say Joshua lost the first time due to Canadian arrogance.
 
I wouldn't say Joshua lost the first time due to Canadian arrogance.
He probably overlooked Ruiz for obvious reasons and paid the price. Joshua dropped him and thought he was more hurt than he actually was. When he rushed in to finish him he got caught and never managed to recover from that first knockdown. That's one of Joshua's biggest problems. His recovery isn't very good. Against Wlad he recovered but that's because Wlad let him back into the fight.
 
He probably overlooked Ruiz for obvious reasons and paid the price. Joshua dropped him and thought he was more hurt than he actually was. When he rushed in to finish him he got caught and never managed to recover from that first knockdown. That's one of Joshua's biggest problems. His recovery isn't very good. Against Wlad he recovered but that's because Wlad let him back into the fight.

Also Wlad isn't a great finisher. It's not his style. You can be a great knockout artist but not a great finisher
 
Also Wlad isn't a great finisher. It's not his style. You can be a great knockout artist but not a great finisher
That wasn't the case here. Even a guy with mediocre finishing skills could've taken out Joshua at that point. He was spent. What happened is that Vitali gave him bad corner advice. He publicly took much of the blame for Wlad losing.

“I advised Wladimir not to rush anything. I had hoped that after the seventh, the eighth round, Joshua would really slow down.”

—Vitali Klitschko

Vitali Klitschko says he blames himself for Wladimir's defeat by Anthony Joshua at Wembley
 
That wasn't the case here. Even a guy with mediocre finishing skills could've taken out Joshua at that point. He was spent. What happened is that Vitali gave him bad corner advice. He publicly took much of the blame for Wlad losing.

“I advised Wladimir not to rush anything. I had hoped that after the seventh, the eighth round, Joshua would really slow down.”

—Vitali Klitschko

Vitali Klitschko says he blames himself for Wladimir's defeat by Anthony Joshua at Wembley
No Joshua did well there. He moved around and was a difficult target to finish off.
 
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