Elections Wake the F**k Up Dems: Running on Identity Politics Doesn't Work Anymore

[Goatenstein]

Supporting men in women's sports and crying for palestinian terrorists didn't help.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

The media is in bed with the politicians - both the Dems and GOP. They work together and are part of the same machine.

to some extent, sure. but voters aren't going to take what the media says over what their candidate does. the media can say whatever it wants to support a candidate but if the candidate doesn't say it themselves, people aren't going to give a shit.

 

[USA!USA!]

his point is that even if what you were saying was accurate, identity politics and social issues are what won it for trump.

The economy and immigration were the #1 issues based on exit poll data.

 

[FyrFytr998]

3. They didn't run a likeable candidate. It was already proven people didn't like Kamala (and Hilary) yet they still ran them. Why do this?

Because they thought making “HERstory” was a viable platform to run on.

 

[Confucamus]

being directly anti-leftist identity politics makes you pro-right wing identity politics by default. staunch nationalism, transphobia, and anti-DEI/racism are all perfect examples of identity politics. trump pushed reactionary social issues as hard as he could and was tremendously successful. the only modicum of policy we got was a hilarious tariff proposal that has been laughed out of existence. he ran on "the dems are turning your kids trans and immigrants are poisoning this country"

You seriously have a lot of introspection to do, bud.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

The economy and immigration were the #1 issues based on exit poll data.

and that was her platform. those are really the only things she talked about.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

You seriously have a lot of introspection to do, bud.

about what? what does any of this have to do with me? lmao do you think i like kamala or something?

 

[Soggust]

I think the Economy + Immigration crushed Kamala.

The left kept hyping up the exit polls with "Democracy as their #1 or #2 issue and Abortion with like 10%".

But in the same graphic, they didn't mention that the Economy and Immigration were the other 2 in the top 4 and weighed even more cumulatively.

Perhaps social issues too, but I imagine more lefties voting bc of that then righties or independents.

 

[USA!USA!]

and that was her platform. those are really the only things she talked about.

I find it hard to believe she talked more about immigration than the Trump campaign. She answered questions about it sure but that was a literal banner issue for Trump.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

They didn't need to do that directly. They did it indirectly by attacking Trump as misogynist, sexist and racist.

They did that much less than in 2016. This time, they focused much more on how unfit he was for office, how he's a threat to democracy, how crooked he is, Project 2025, etc.

And didn't stand for anything.

She's the VP of the current administration so of course she's going to run on a continuation of the current regime. It'd make no sense to rant and rave about how massive changes are needed because the current president sucks.

She needed to be skilled enough to address the changes that people wanted while not trashing the administration that she's still a part of. She couldn't pull it off and she lost.

 

[USA!USA!]

Bro, the two things go hand in hand.

If people don't buy what one candidate is selling, they are buying what the other is selling.

At no point did either candidate waste much time talking about reparations lol.

The Dems lost momentum when Kamala's campaign shifted to their center-right strategy that Republicans ran on during the neo-con era and tried to pick up Niki Haley supporters. That shit appealed to nobody. I said it as soon as they did it.

Reparations was just one example, but I hear what you are saying that it was still minor - but I think that is still enough to shift some voters.

I think we can agree that in the end if Kamala had been the choice from the start and actually won a true primary and was the nation's choice as the selection, she would have garnered more votes as well. It was subtle things that lost her votes in the margins IMO

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I find it hard to believe she talked more about immigration than the Trump campaign. She answered questions about it sure but that was a literal banner issue for Trump.

i mean she didn't run on it as strong as trump for sure, but it was a big part of her platform and she doubled down on the border every time she was asked about it.

 

[Hog-train]

Because they thought making “HERstory” was a viable platform to run on.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Reparations was just one example, but I hear what you are saying that it was still minor - but I think that is still enough to shift some voters.

I think we can agree that in the end if Kamala had been the choice from the start and actually won a true primary and was the nation's choice as the selection, she would have garnered more votes as well. It was subtle things that lost her votes in the margins IMO

Kamala would have never won a primary. That's issue #1 with Kamala.

I've watched a ton of campaign ads from both sides this cycle. Dems pushed anti-abortion stuff, which is objectively a good strategy, they pushed anti-trump ads, which was objectively a good strategy....then they fell apart pushing the centrist/neo con stuff.

What they should have done is just lie and pushed medicare for all. That was objectively the best strategy for either side and neither of them did it.

If they were going to pivot right like they did, then they shouldn't have selected Walz. When he was first selected, voters were energized that they Dems were actually going to run on progressive policies. Walz consistently polled as the only likable candidate out of all these clowns this election cycle. Then you could watch the momentum drain with every Liz Cheney mention as the election went on lol.

It's just bad campaign strategy.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Not sure how much of it was identity politics, but maybe don't run someone who polled at <4% in 2020? And try doing a proper primary.

 

[ShadowRun]

I think 50% more Jews voted for Trump, they see the antisemitism the left embraces

 

[ShadowRun]

Well, he has beaten Hillary and now kamala. Maybe people aren’t ready for a female president?

Michelle Obama would crush Trump. Two horrible woman candidates is the problem

 

[ShadowRun]

The economy and immigration were the #1 issues based on exit poll data.

Some polls said 70% didn’t like the direction the country was going and they trust Trump more than her with immigration and economy. What does she do say she wouldn’t change nothing and isn’t different than Biden . People wanted the change of the direction

 

[Hog-train]

i think you underestimate how little leftists give a shit about the border. and kamala brought up how tough she has been, and will be, on the border constantly. clearly it made leftists not want to vote for her.

Bro the Dems care a great deal about the border issue.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

The tactics are pretty much the same on both sides. Left had an abysmal candidate this go around.