Elections Wake the F**k Up Dems: Running on Identity Politics Doesn't Work Anymore

[Satsui Ryu]

Because it's one of the most obvious crazy things about the left that people are pissed at. It's so obviously outrageous and crazy that it's easy to point out every time.

Just because something is controversial doesn't mean it Trump's (no pun intended) everything. It is a great way for politicians to play slight of hand. Don't look at what I am doing to fuck you, look at this controversial topic that will never impact you. A good example is Reagan playing the moral majority BS to only have policies that lead to the deaths of so many people around the world. But hey he played the identity politics card correctly.

I don't base my concerns on what is most controversial, I base my concerns on what will likely have an actual impact on me and society.

 

[Barteh]

Just because something is controversial doesn't mean it Trump's (no pun intended) everything. It is a great way for politicians to play slight of hand. Don't look at what I am doing to fuck you, look at this controversial topic that will never impact you.

Everybody who has kids will consider this a serious issue and they'll be rightfully worried it will impact their kids.

Same way all the childless cat ladies will vote heavily for the dems based on the issue of abortion.

Sure, the opposite side will exaggerate the issue and constantly bring it up, but it'd be smarter to completely avoid any of these controversial issue.

 

[nhbbear]

Michelle Obama would crush Trump. Two horrible woman candidates is the problem

Literally crush him. Bitch got guns

 

[Hog-train]

If that is the case, why do trannies seemingly come up in every single topic. Why when a valid point is made against the right does it become, but trannies. It absolutely amazes the places this topic gets brought up.

Perhaps it is a WR and this place loves chicks with dicks.

And to your second point, right wing media absolutely pushes the narrative that whites are experiencing the worst racism of all. Even if Trump is called a racist, it happens the other way as much if not more. How else would people who would never actually be impacted by racism be concerned about it in any way.

Fact is identity politics are exploited all around because it brings cheap heat.

Maybe you're right. Identity politics used on both sides if you consider pushback against ID politics as also ID politics.

However, the GOP had other issues such as immigration they ran on this time. The Dem's problem was that it was the ONLY thing they seemingly ran on. Trump is evil, Nazi, racist, etc.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Maybe you're right. Identity politics used on both sides if you consider pushback against ID politics as also ID politics.

However, the GOP had other issues such as immigration they ran on this time. The Dem's problem was that it was the ONLY thing they seemingly ran on. Trump is evil, Nazi, racist, etc.

The immigration issue is literally the right running on identity politics.

"They're eating your cats and dogs"

"They're Hannibal Lector coming here to rape and violently murder you"

"They're coming to steal the "black" jobs" lmao

 

[nhbbear]

I think lots of people voted for her simply because she's a woman.

I doubt anyone voted for Trump just because they didn't want a woman in office.

What I brought up has to factor in the vote for some people. I am just trying to figure out how he actually won. Both candidates sucked. I came up with a pro/con list for him winning. More cons than pros with the only two pros being that the loss shut up a lot of hard core lefties and no one fucking with my guns being the other.

 

[Hog-train]

The immigration issue is literally the right running on identity politics.

"They're eating your cats and dogs"

"They're Hannibal Lector coming here to rape and violently murder you"

"They're coming to steal the "black" jobs" lmao

Meh no it's not. That's only the stupid chatter surrounding it. If you want to count all the hyperbolic talk around an issue, then literally every single issue is "identity politics."

Immigration is a real, tangible issue that affects the economy, taxes, crime, etc. I live in NY which is one of the sanctuary cities overrun with bussed in immigrants. The city is struggling real hard to pay for all these people.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

Maybe you're right. Identity politics used on both sides if you consider pushback against ID politics as also ID politics.

However, the GOP had other issues such as immigration they ran on this time. The Dem's problem was that it was the ONLY thing they seemingly ran on. Trump is evil, Nazi, racist, etc.

I liked Kamala because she had a tax plan that would not sunset my tax breaks conveniently after she left office, unlike Trump and well respected economists praised her economic policies whereas Trump's are considered a disaster. Did the right ever acknowledge that?

Also let's be honest, although there are practical reasons to manage immigration, how much of that concern is based on "they will not replace us." Identity politics definitely plays a part in how Trump went on about immigration. Also let's not forget Trump literally did nothing about immigration when he had all the cards in his favor. In the end all he did was give tax breaks to corporations. I mentioned slight of hand in an earlier post. See how it was used here.

 

[UberHere]

You seriously have a lot of introspection to do, bud.

I don’t think he’s capable. He’s truly a fanatic and firmly believes that all Jews in Israel should be moved to their former ancestrial countries.

 

[NoSmilez]

this is because their party gives them centrists.

it's not the 1990's anymore. saying basically the same thing as your opponent on a policy young people don't give a shit about is a losing strategy. young people lean left and todays left is more left than the left of 30 years ago. saying shit like "i will close the border" doesn't motivate young people to vote for you.

she's mute on deportations because again, even center-leftists don't like that idea let alone actual leftists. she's trying to placate to moderates without fully scaring off the lefties which meant no one was motivated to vote for her.

I think we don't have the same definition of what a leftist is.

 

[Hog-train]

I liked Kamala because she had a tax plan that would not sunset my tax breaks conveniently after she left office, unlike Trump and well respected economists praised her economic policies whereas Trump's are considered a disaster. Did the right ever acknowledge that?

It's not the right's job to advertise Kamala. She has to do that herself and she completely failed.

The entire party failed in campaigning so badly.

Also let's be honest, although there are practical reasons to manage immigration, how much of that concern is based on "they will not replace us." Identity politics definitely plays a part in how Trump went on about immigration. Also let's not forget Trump literally did nothing about immigration when he had all the cards in his favor. In the end all he did was give tax breaks to corporations. I mentioned slight of hand in an earlier post. See how it was used here.

I don't care how Trump went about how he talked about it. The fact of the matter is, there's a shitload of immigrants all over my city who are using up all the resources and it's not sustainable. They're being housed in a midtown Manhattan hotel and other places in some of the most expensive real estate in the country. It's completely ridiculous.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I think we don't have the same definition of what a leftist is.

i think you're probably right. i think to you, a leftist is a moderate democrat, because that's what the democratic party keeps nominating.

 

[lifelessheap]

If that is the case, why do trannies seemingly come up in every single topic. Why when a valid point is made against the right does it become, but trannies. It absolutely amazes the places this topic gets brought up.

Perhaps it is a WR and this place loves chicks with dicks.

And to your second point, right wing media absolutely pushes the narrative that whites are experiencing the worst racism of all. Even if Trump is called a racist, it happens the other way as much if not more. How else would people who would never actually be impacted by racism be concerned about it in any way.

Fact is identity politics are exploited all around because it brings cheap heat.

In the 90's my brother applied to CDF, which became Cal Fire. He literally told by the Chief that Sacramento would not let him hire a single white man. Only women or non whites. LoL.

 

[UberHere]

Kamala would have never won a primary. That's issue #1 with Kamala.

I've watched a ton of campaign ads from both sides this cycle. Dems pushed anti-abortion stuff, which is objectively a good strategy, they pushed anti-trump ads, which was objectively a good strategy....then they fell apart pushing the centrist/neo con stuff.

What they should have done is just lie and pushed medicare for all. That was objectively the best strategy for either side and neither of them did it.

If they were going to pivot right like they did, then they shouldn't have selected Walz. When he was first selected, voters were energized that they Dems were actually going to run on progressive policies. Walz consistently polled as the only likable candidate out of all these clowns this election cycle. Then you could watch the momentum drain with every Liz Cheney mention as the election went on lol.

It's just bad campaign strategy.

Another moron who thinks progressivism would’ve won for the Dems. ROFL

That’s what’s sinking them.

 

[UberHere]

So the right's obsession with trannies isn't identity politics? It's not that they didn't run on identity politics, they were just able to trigger more emotion in the way they did it. Trump's entire campaign was based on identity politics.

The right’s obsession with trannies? lol

That’s a fringe left issue dip shit. Everyone else just thinks it’s weird.

 

[SKYNET]

Who knew that spending years calling people who probably aren't right-wingers, "right-wingers," would push them to become right-wingers.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- They wont learn anything. A smart person learn what their errors. All they have to offer is being a mockery of party, alienating everyone in their path.

The dems are probably looking on eho will be their new martyr, while going on a rampage burning cities and killing children.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

In the 90's my brother applied to CDF, which became Cal Fire. He literally told by the Chief that Sacramento would not let him hire a single white man. Only women or non whites. LoL.

- Here we do a concourse. You pass the test, they will do a physical one.

 

[oldshadow]

Wtf? All the republicans have is identity politics. It sure worked this time.

The vast, vast majority of Republican voters are white. Something like 86%. Their whole strategy was maligning black people, immigrants, etc. In other words: appealing to white voters.

That is identity politics. And it worked.

No, the Democrats lost for the reasons I said they would lose: They can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory every time. I mean, they basically repeated 2016.

Run a woman against Trump: check

Alienate huge swaths of their voter base: check. Twice this time be alienating progressives and Muslims.

Run on a centrist agenda trying to appeal to everyone: check.

And there it is. The excuse "we were not far enough left, what we need to do is to double down and move more left"

She would have lost even bigger is they did that.

 

[NoSmilez]

i think you're probably right. i think to you, a leftist is a moderate democrat, because that's what the democratic party keeps nominating.

You are totally wrong. That is your definition. Look at what you are saying.