International Vance, Zelensky, Trump argue in front of press

[Bob Gray]

One guy had an arena full of people cheering, the other had them booing. What do you think 'charisma' means?

Do you honestly think there arent incidents of large crowds booing Dubya and large crowds cheering Obama? Stop this reasoning. It's terrible.

 

[Death By Samson]

Zelensky made a statement.

 

[Death By Samson]

JD Vance: "You never said thank you!!"

Video of Zelensky thanking the US 94 times since February 24, 2022.

After Vance said that Zelensky hadn't thanked them he added "since this meeting started" or something like that. It was a dumbass thing to say and it made Vance come off like a little bitch but facts matter.

 

[brothir]

Haha. Come on bruh

It's kind of tone-deaf to say that some will dump on Trump whatever he does when he just recently "offered" a ridiculous deal to extract half of Ukraine's metals, and that they should just let Putin have the areas he conquered. On top of that, he held a ridiculous press conference/interview that devolved into a farce where he attempted to double-team Zelenskyy in conjunction with the US vice-president, after having said that it's Ukraine that started the war, when it's actually Ukraine that's being the victim of a genocide.

I mean, it's basically the most embarrassing thing any US president has ever done. Moreover, accepting any peace deal that Putin would offer would mean endorsing the continuation of the genocide of Ukrainians. Kind of the most absolute non-starter one could imagine in the modern day. Eisenhower is doing pole vaults in his grave.

 

[Hog-train]

After Vance said that Zelensky hadn't thanked them he added "since this meeting started" or something like that. It was a dumbass thing to say and it made Vance come off like a little bitch but facts matter.

Vance only self-corrected after Zelensky replied "I did thank the US... many times."

 

[Cajun]

It's kind of tone-deaf to say that some will dump on Trump whatever he does when he just recently "offered" a ridiculous deal to extract half of Ukraine's metals, and that they should just let Putin have the areas he conquered. On top of that, he held a ridiculous press conference/interview that devolved into a farce where he attempted to double-team Zelenskyy in conjunction with the US vice-president, after having said that it's Ukraine that started the war, when it's actually Ukraine that's being the victim of a genocide.

I mean, it's basically the most embarrassing thing any US president has ever done. Moreover, accepting any peace deal that Putin would offer would mean endorsing the continuation of the genocide of Ukrainians. Kind of the most absolute non-starter one could imagine in the modern day. Eisenhower is doing pole vaults in his grave.

As far as I know it was just until the money is repaid. Then trade. And they would have the technology and extraction stuff. Zelensky was happy about it and potentially expanding LNG facilities and jobs that Zelensky was hapoy about. Before any details it was crapped on as is every other thing he does. Cities not even wanting to release criminal illegals. There are some honest libs in here as well but to say any idea hasn't been crapped on is disingenuous imo. I'm on record supporting recent Biden chips law and a 2023 initiative by Kamala. I'm cooking for my boys but I can explain more later. I was a critical of Trump's press conference actions and Vances. Come on bruh. Now Europe is putting together their own peace plan and lots of movement. What do you want out of this?

Also..
Fried catfish and French fries on the agenda.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

My version:

The enemy of my enemies is my friend. The enemy is the Globalists. Orange mang is destroying them.

After he is done, I'll have to reevaluate Trump.

It's not good guys vs bad guys. It's powerful forces fighting over the same turf, and the turf is the planet.

" the meek inherent the Earth " not the powerful.

What about Peter Thiel and people like him who are backing Trump?

I don't think there's a lot of good guys moving money in US politics.

 

[brothir]

As far as I know it was just until the money is repaid. Then trade. And they would have the technology and extraction stuff. Zelensky was happy about it and potentially expanding LNG facilities and jobs that Zelensky was hapoy about. Before any details it was crapped on as is every other thing he does. Cities not even wanting to release criminal illegals. There are some honest libs in here as well but to say any idea hasn't been crapped on is disingenuous imo. I'm on record supporting recent Biden chips law and a 2023 initiative by Kamala. I'm cooking for my boys but I can explain more later. I was a critical of Trump's press conference actions and Vances. Come on bruh. Now Europe is putting together their own peace plan and lots of movement. What do you want out of this?

Also..
Fried catfish and French fries on the agenda.

But what was given was either aid or loans that are already planned out and accounted for in that sense. You don't demand rent from aid. The reason it was crapped on is because it's an absurd offer that's likely unworkable in practice. Sure, it is possible to give unreasonable criticism of Trump, but he makes it particularly easy to give reasoned criticism.

And now, aid to Ukraine has been temporarily (or will it be "temporarily"?) restricted. While Trump is accusing Ukraine of effectively causing the genocide of itself by "starting the war". That's pretty heinous, and saying "but some libs are even being unreasonable" does not really cut the mustard. Well, far more "cons" are being even more unreasonable.

 

[Cajun]

But what was given was either aid or loans that are already planned out and accounted for in that sense. You don't demand rent from aid. The reason it was crapped on is because it's an absurd offer that's likely unworkable in practice. Sure, it is possible to give unreasonable criticism of Trump, but he makes it particularly easy to give reasoned criticism.

And now, aid to Ukraine has been temporarily (or will it be "temporarily"?) restricted. While Trump is accusing Ukraine of effectively causing the genocide of itself by "starting the war". That's pretty heinous, and saying "but some libs are even being unreasonable" does not really cut the mustard. Well, far more "cons" are being even more unreasonable.

Europe has a lot in loans as well. The money can be used for all. The money paid was paid and I don't know what else is planned or approved. We are 183B in. Its 3 years. Keep funding isn't great as I don't think they will improve the stalemate.

Everything Trump does is not right and some I don't agree with. But the overall idea that both sides are willing to discuss is good imo. Immigration return isn't reasonable? Just come on bruh.

 

[b-hop]

Libtards makes me laugh so much with their twisted narratives.
Before Trump would never get that deal because "zelensky wouldn't accepted" "it's an extortion" "they have the support of europeans, they don;t need us" and so and so..

Now that he's going about to sign, they want make Trump seem bad by pretending the minerals don't exist.

 

[Crazy Source]

Europe has a lot in loans as well. The money can be used for all. The money paid was paid and I don't know what else is planned or approved. We are 183B in. Its 3 years. Keep funding isn't great as I don't think they will improve the stalemate.

Everything Trump does is not right and some I don't agree with. But the overall idea that both sides are willing to discuss is good imo. Immigration return isn't reasonable? Just come on bruh.

I'm extremely skeptical as to what Russia will be willing to give in this negotiating. If nothing, which is what I fear, it's more like a surrender than a peace deal.

 

[brothir]

Europe has a lot in loans as well. The money can be used for all. The money paid was paid and I don't know what else is planned or approved. We are 183B in. Its 3 years. Keep funding isn't great as I don't think they will improve the stalemate.

Everything Trump does is not right and some I don't agree with. But the overall idea that both sides are willing to discuss is good imo. Immigration return isn't reasonable? Just come on bruh.

Well, what Europe gives isn't really your problem, just as what the US wants to do with immigration isn't Europe's. I'm not going to be arrogant enough to claim that the US should do this or that with respect to immigration, and it has nothing to do with whether the US should continue to support Ukraine. Just because some liberals are too OK with immigration doesn't mean that the way Trump and Vance treated Zelenskyy was fine.

Stopping aid will enable Putin to massacre Ukraine further. Giving aid prevents that. That's the equation Putin has handed us, as he's violated all trust that has ever been given him. Trump is way, way too accepting of him.

 

[Cajun]

I'm extremely skeptical as to what Russia will be willing to give in this negotiating. If nothing, which is what I fear, it's more like a surrender than a peace deal.

I am as well. Will have to see. The fact that they are willing means they see this for what it is. Extremely difficult

 

[AWilder]

After Vance said that Zelensky hadn't thanked them he added "since this meeting started" or something like that. It was a dumbass thing to say and it made Vance come off like a little bitch but facts matter.

there are very few instances in life where vance comes across as anything but a little bitch.

 

[Seano]

I'm extremely skeptical as to what Russia will be willing to give in this negotiating. If nothing, which is what I fear, it's more like a surrender than a peace deal.

If you were the arbitrator, what would you ask of Russia?

 

[Cajun]

Well, what Europe gives isn't really your problem, just as what the US wants to do with immigration isn't Europe's. I'm not going to be arrogant enough to claim that the US should do this or that with respect to immigration, and it has nothing to do with whether the US should continue to support Ukraine. Just because some liberals are too OK with immigration doesn't mean that the way Trump and Vance treated Zelenskyy was fine.

Stopping aid will enable Putin to massacre Ukraine further. Giving aid prevents that. That's the equation Putin has handed us, as he's violated all trust that has ever been given him. Trump is way, way too accepting of him.

I didnt say it was. I'm speaking to the general by libs vs reality. I didnt realize you weren't American. Will see on the aid. I think it's a move but there was nothing new on the table as far as I'm aware. I'm ok with Europe handling whatever they want. I don't think Putin was letting up regardless. Let's see

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Libtards makes me laugh so much with their twisted narratives.
Before Trump would never get that deal because "zelensky wouldn't accepted" "it's an extortion" "they have the support of europeans, they don;t need us" and so and so..

Now that he's going about to sign, they want make Trump seem bad by pretending the minerals don't exist.

It is legit brain damage. I thought it was simply just cognitive dissonance, but at this point, their brains are legit fried and damaged.

What losers lmaooooo

 

[brothir]

I didnt say it was. I'm speaking to the general by libs vs reality. I didnt realize you weren't American. Will see on the aid. I think it's a move but there was nothing new on the table as far as I'm aware. I'm ok with Europe handling whatever they want. I don't think Putin was letting up regardless. Let's see

My profile picture has no less than 4 instances of the Norwegian flag, and the subtitle beneath my name is "Norwegian Panda Boy". I have done a few things to signal where I'm from. I agree that Putin isn't letting up, which is why more aid is the right move. If he was letting up, Ukraine wouldn't need more weapons.

 

[Cajun]

My profile picture has no less than 4 instances of the Norwegian flag, and the subtitle beneath my name is "Norwegian Panda Boy". I have done a few things to signal where I'm from. I agree that Putin isn't letting up, which is why more aid is the right move. If he was letting up, Ukraine wouldn't need more weapons.

Sorry bud. I live a life of bouncing in and out of these threads and managing 3 little ones.. we've only interacted a few times so apologies. I also rarely post from anything than my phone. But I've liked some of your previous stuff as I recall. Cheers man.

 

[brothir]

Sorry bud. I live a life of bouncing in and out of these threads and managing 3 little ones.. we've only interacted a few times so apologies. I also rarely post from anything than my phone. But I've liked some of your previous stuff as I recall. Cheers man.

It's no big deal. I've kind of figured out that phones don't display as much as computers, which makes some things more inconvenient. Maybe I should write "colour" instead of "color"? Cheers.