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Law Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk plea for Derek Chauvin to get pardoned

Fuck that. He shouldn’t get anywhere near something as polarizing as that.
it's polarizing, but so was releasing J6er's, what's right is right, and full pardon on the way out is an easy one. Floyd wasnt murdered, he was hopped up on drugs and hyperventilated, and likely died due to that combination as well as positional asphyxia, but other than that, chauvin doing what he was taught to do, and until there are better methods...... he did what he had to do.
 
I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to "kill him", not because he's a nice guy or anything, but because he obviously knows that killing a suspect while people are filming would get him in big trouble.

The guy is not some cold blooded killer, just probably your regular power tripping meathead cop who certainly should have lost his job and got some sort of punishment for his negligence, but the sentence he received was obviously politically motivated and used to pander to and appease the leftist mob and set an example.
I think if you are kneeing someone’s neck for 10 minutes, you are trying to kill them even when they are telling you that they can’t breathe.

Why let partisanship cloud your judgement? You were wrong about the Floyd and the Pregnant women fiasco and now you are batting for Chauvin as some sort of victim of the leftist mob…

Be better, man.
 
Take left,right and the culture war out of it. He was suffocating George Floyd for 9 minutes. We all saw it on tape.And you are still peddling that “fentanyl” overdose shit which has been debunked….


If you think Biden pardoning his son is so awful. You should oppose this guy literally murdering someone and getting pardoned for this….
Reuters is one of the publications that capitalizes “Black” but not “white”. I’m not sure they’re the most reliable source.
 
I think if you are kneeing someone’s neck for 10 minutes, you are trying to kill them even when they are telling you that they can’t breathe.

Why let partisanship cloud your judgement? You were wrong about the Floyd and the Pregnant women fiasco and now you are batting for Chauvin as some sort of victim of the leftist mob…

Be better, man.
It's not even about partisanship, it's about an obvious double standard.

Let's see if you can be honest in our interaction for once in your life.

In August of 2016 a man named Tony Timpa was killed by a police officer in the EXACT same way as Floyd, except instead of kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes, the officer kept his knee there for 14 minutes.

Of course no one knows Tony Timpa's name because he was a white guy.

Of course the officer in question never spent a day in prison, charges against him were dropped and he returned to active duty, in fact he has since been promoted.

Details of this case are all over the internet, don't take my word for it and feel free to skim over it yourself, it's pretty straight forward... then please come back to me and tell me that there isn't a clear double standard.
 
I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to "kill him", not because he's a nice guy or anything, but because he obviously knows that killing a suspect while people are filming would get him in big trouble.

The guy is not some cold blooded killer, just probably your regular power tripping meathead cop who certainly should have lost his job and got some sort of punishment for his negligence, but the sentence he received was obviously politically motivated and used to pander to and appease the leftist mob and set an example.


Stop dude

He kneeled on that dude for like 10 minutes. It does not matter how big of an asshole Floyd was cops have to be held to standards . Yes the world is better without George Floyd in it probably....but that doesn't matter because you can't just straight up kill or show depraved indifference to scumbags as a police officer or we live in a fascist state. Courts hand out punishments not police officers.

Try to separate the 2 threads and not let one thing cloud the other.
 
Reuters is one of the publications that capitalizes “Black” but not “white”. I’m not sure they’re the most reliable source.
The direct reports are linked on Reuters. You don’t need to take their word on it.
 
Stop dude

He kneeled on that dude for like 10 minutes. It does not matter how big of an asshole Floyd was cops have to be held to standards . Yes the world is better without George Floyd in it probably....but that doesn't matter because you can't just straight up kill or show depraved indifference to scumbags as a police officer or we live in a fascist state. Courts hand out punishments not police officers.

Try to separate the 2 threads and not let one thing cloud the other.
Ok fine, I'll tell you the same thing I just told the other guy, google the name Tony Timpa, quickly skim over what happened, then tell me why this standard isn't applied across the board?
 
The direct reports are linked on Reuters. You don’t need to take their word on it.
And your fake news source even mentions that fentanyl played a role, so I’m not sure why you shot down that accusation.

“while Floyd suffered from heart disease, and fentanyl and methamphetamine found in his blood may have played a role in the death, they “were not direct causes.”
 
Dude was convicted by a jury of 12 citizens in the community in which he lives... he can take it up on appeal there.
 
And your fake news source even mentions that fentanyl played a role, so I’m not sure why you shot down that accusation.

“while Floyd suffered from heart disease, and fentanyl and methamphetamine found in his blood may have played a role in the death, they “were not direct causes.”
It says that it played a part but that doesn’t change the fact that Chauvin kneeled on his neck for 10 minutes…You are acting like he’d magically die if he wasn’t put in that position by Chauvin…

Even, the guy’s supervisor says what he did was wrong.

 
I think his sentence was politically motivated and extreme considering the circumstances. It certainly was handled poorly but the guy was charged with 2nd and 3rd degree murder and manslaughter. He was clearly made an example of. Manslaughter was probably the appropriate charge.


I was more talking about how a piece of shit like Floyd was made into a martyr.
Chauvin in prison, career criminal dead. Should be a win-win for everyone.
 
It's not even about partisanship, it's about an obvious double standard.

Let's see if you can be honest in our interaction for once in your life.

In August of 2016 a man named Tony Timpa was killed by a police officer in the EXACT same way as Floyd, except instead of kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes, the officer kept his knee there for 14 minutes.

Of course no one knows Tony Timpa's name because he was a white guy.

Of course the officer in question never spent a day in prison, charges against him were dropped and he returned to active duty, in fact he has since been promoted.

Details of this case are all over the internet, don't take my word for it and feel free to skim over it yourself, it's pretty straight forward... then please come back to me and tell me that there isn't a clear double standard.

Yeah, those guys deserve the same sentences as Chauvin. Why aren’t you protesting for it?
 
Not even sure that Chauvin “killed” him when it was all said and done. But when someone says “I can’t breathe” even if they are lying you put them in a seated position to cover your ass. That’s cop 101 academy shit. Chauvin should’ve known better.

If you remember the bodycam footage Floyd had been constantly saying he couldn't breathe long before Chauvin put him on the ground. The whole time the cops were getting him out of his car and trying to put him in the cop bar Floyd was resisting and repeatedly saying he couldn't breathe. Chauvin was probably tuning it out at this point. It's the just world fallacy thing. You'd like to think Chauvin deserved it but there was bad luck involved there with the fentanyl already tanking the victim's respiration. Chauvin deserved prison but the sentence was overkill.
 
Fucking do it. Also, cut social security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans benefits, impose more tariffs, slash military pay, order Luigi to be publicly drawn and quartered, please just do all that shit. Anything that pisses off the general public and brings us closer to revolution, I'm in favor of at this point.
 
If you remember the bodycam footage Floyd had been constantly saying he couldn't breathe long before Chauvin put him on the ground. The whole time the cops were getting him out of his car and trying to put him in the cop bar Floyd was resisting and repeatedly saying he couldn't breathe. Chauvin was probably tuning it out at this point. It's the just world fallacy thing. You'd like to think Chauvin deserved it but there was bad luck involved there with the fentanyl already tanking the victim's respiration. Chauvin deserved prison but the sentence was overkill.

Oh I remember and I 100% agree with you. I’m just saying to cover his own ass he probably should’ve gotten Floyd to a seated position to eliminate the possibility of being blamed for his death.
 
I mean , he deserves a significant prison sentence for sheer negligence in dealing with a person that may have been suffering from a drug overdose. Manslaughter forsure. Your supposed to serve and protect. Beyond that , i think his conviction was heavillyyyy influenced by how how profile it was. I dont know what the answer is.
 
Fucking do it. Also, cut social security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans benefits, impose more tariffs, slash military pay, order Luigi to be publicly drawn and quartered, please just do all that shit. Anything that pisses off the general public and brings us closer to revolution, I'm in favor of at this point.
Lmao revoloution. They fairly easily locked everyone in their homes and forced their loved ones to die alone because although you felt fine you were a "danger" to everybody. And you think the US is a country ready to start a revolution. Hysterical .
 
Floyd died from a heart attack that was likely brought on my his poor ticker and the drugs that he had abused throughout his life and ignited by chauvin. That being said, chauvin shouldn’t be pardoned just for being an idiot and causing a summer full of bullshit that we could’ve done without as a country.
I mean credit to him for providing an A-ha moment during covid. When a bunch of us realized oh yeah , theyre fuckjng with us. Too dangerous to go to work but hey it's okay to protest racial inequality in large crowds.
 

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