Law Trump just pardoned 1.5k rioters and Proud Boys.....

As someone trained in this sort of thing, how would you go about arresting someone who shows up on public transportation, dresses exactly the same as hundreds of others, wears a mask and gloves, commits a crime in the middle of total chaos and then leaves on foot as part of a larger group.

It’s very difficult and that is their whole point of dressing the same and wearing the plague masks still. You can track their phone and determine if someone was there if you know your usual suspects. So of these idiots film themselves committing crime and posting to social and they are linked that way.
 
  • Here ya go, smartass. You could have looked this up yourself. What looking this up did force me to realize was that the ones that assaulted a police officers but marginally more time. I saw a few assaulting a police officer and they got 19 months
  • Alexander Bennett Sheppard, 24, of Powell, Ohio, was sentenced to serve 19 months in prison, 24 months of supervised release and ordered to pay $3,170. He was found guilty of multiple charges, including obstruction of an official proceeding, and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building.
  • Narayana C. Rheiner, 42, of Baltimore, Maryland, was sentenced to 15 months in prison, 36 months of supervised release, and ordered to pay $2,000. Rheiner pleaded guilty to one count of interfering with law enforcement officers during a civil disorder.
  • Leo Christopher Kelly, 37, of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, was sentenced to 30 months in prison, 36 months of supervised release, and ordered to pay $7,000. He was found guilty at trial of obstructing an official proceeding and six other misdemeanors.
  • Bradley Wayne Weeks, 44, of Macclenny, Florida, was sentenced to 10 months in prison, 24 months of supervised release with 12 months of home detention, and ordered to pay $2,000. He was found guilty of a number of charges, including obstructing an official proceeding, and disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building.
  • Cleveland Grover Meredith, Jr., 52, of Hayesville, North Carolina, was sentenced to 28 months in prison, 36 months of supervised release and ordered to pay $100 after pleading guilty to one charge of communication of threats.
  • Christine Priola, 49, of Willoughby, Ohio, was sentenced to 15 months in prison, one year supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to obstructing an official proceeding.
  • Daniel Warmus, 37, of Alden, New York, was sentenced to 45 days in prison, two years of probation, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to one charge of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • David Alan Blair, 26, of Clarksburg, Maryland was sentenced to five months in prison, 18 months of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to one charge of civil disorder.
  • Lonnie Leroy Coffman, 70, of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to 46 months, three years of supervised release and ordered to pay $200 after pleading guilty to possession of an unregistered firearm.
  • Robert Maurice Reeder, 55, of Bel Air, Maryland, was sentenced to three months in prison and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to one count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Moises Romero, of Cooper City, Florida, was sentenced to a year and a day in prison, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to one count of civil disorder.
  • Frank J. Scavo, 58, of Old Forge, Pennsylvania, was sentenced to 60 days in prison and ordered to pay a combined $5,510 after pleading guilty to one count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Matthew Jay Webler, 42, of Decatur, Georgia, was sentenced to 45 days in prison and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to one count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Thomas Webster, 54, of White Plains, New York, was sentenced to 10 years in prison, three year of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,570 after being found guilty of a number of charges, including assaulting, resisting or impeding an officer with a dangerous weapon.
  • Russell Dean Alford, 60, of Hokes Bluff, Alabama, was sentenced to a year in prison, a year of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $570 after being convicted of a number of charges, including violent entry to the Capitol.
  • Tommy Frederick Allan, 52, of Rocklin, California, was sentenced to 21 months in prison, three years of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding.
  • Ryan Keith Ashlock, of Gardner, Kansas, was sentenced to 70 days in prison, 12 months of supervised release, 100 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Matthew Baggott, 29, of Woodbury, Tennessee, was sentenced to three months in prison, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525.
  • Dawn Bancroft, 58, of Doylestown, Pennsylvania, was sentenced to 60 days in prison, three years' probation, 100 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510.
  • Robert L. Bauer, 43, of Cave City, Kentucky, was sentenced to 45 days incarceration, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to a charge of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Bryan Betancur, also known as "Bryan Clooney" or "Maximo Clooney," 23, of Silver Spring, Maryland—a self-professed white supremacist, according to court documents—was sentenced to four months in prison, a year of supervised release, and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to a charge of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Dona Sue Bissey, 52, of Bloomfield, Indiana, was sentenced to 14 days in prison, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • James Bonet, 29, of Glens Falls, New York, was sentenced to 90 days in prison, a year of supervised release, 200 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Cory Ray Brannan, 23, of Midland, Texas, was sentenced to 30 days incarceration, two years of probation, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Antionne DeShaun Brodnax, of Sandston, Virginia, was sentenced to five months in prison, a year of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $570 after pleading guilty to four charges, including disorderly conduct in a Capitol building.
  • Tammy A. Bronsburg, also known as "Tammy Butry," 49, of Williamsport, Pennsylvania, was sentenced to 20 days incarceration, two years of probation and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Boyd Allen Camper, 54, of Philipsburg, Montana, was sentenced to 60 days in prison, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Christian Glen Cortez, of Seabrook, Texas, was sentenced to four months in prison, three years of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to civil disorder.
  • Gracyn Dawn Courtright, 23, of Hurricane, West Virginia, was sentenced to 30 days in prison, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Dalton Ray Crase, 22, of Lexington, Kentucky, was sentenced to 15 days in prison, three years of probation, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Lawrence Dropkin Jr., 45, of Raritan, New Jersey, was sentenced to 30 days of incarceration, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $570 after pleading guilty to several charges, including entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Treniss Jewell Evans III, 46, of Canyon Lake, Texas, was sentenced to 20 days of intermittent incarceration—meaning the sentence can be served at weekends— three years of probation and ordered to pay a combined $5,525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Robert Flynt Fairchild Jr., 40, of Orlando, Florida, was sentenced to six months in prison and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to civil disorder.
  • Marilyn

That list doesn’t prove what you think it does. Obstructing an official proceeding is a felony.
 
  • Here ya go, smartass. You could have looked this up yourself. What looking this up did force me to realize was that the ones that assaulted a police officers but marginally more time. I saw a few assaulting a police officer and they got 19 months
I'm a smartass for asking you for specific examples? You expect me to make your argument for you or something? I think its really telling how you guys seem to take it personally any time I ask for examples or details. More and more its apparent that you haven't thought these positions through beyond what the algorithm has fed you which you've basically admitted to in the past.
  • Alexander Bennett Sheppard, 24, of Powell, Ohio, was sentenced to serve 19 months in prison, 24 months of supervised release and ordered to pay $3,170. He was found guilty of multiple charges, including obstruction of an official proceeding, and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building.
  • Narayana C. Rheiner, 42, of Baltimore, Maryland, was sentenced to 15 months in prison, 36 months of supervised release, and ordered to pay $2,000. Rheiner pleaded guilty to one count of interfering with law enforcement officers during a civil disorder.
  • Leo Christopher Kelly, 37, of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, was sentenced to 30 months in prison, 36 months of supervised release, and ordered to pay $7,000. He was found guilty at trial of obstructing an official proceeding and six other misdemeanors.
  • Bradley Wayne Weeks, 44, of Macclenny, Florida, was sentenced to 10 months in prison, 24 months of supervised release with 12 months of home detention, and ordered to pay $2,000. He was found guilty of a number of charges, including obstructing an official proceeding, and disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building.
  • Cleveland Grover Meredith, Jr., 52, of Hayesville, North Carolina, was sentenced to 28 months in prison, 36 months of supervised release and ordered to pay $100 after pleading guilty to one charge of communication of threats.
  • Christine Priola, 49, of Willoughby, Ohio, was sentenced to 15 months in prison, one year supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to obstructing an official proceeding.
  • Daniel Warmus, 37, of Alden, New York, was sentenced to 45 days in prison, two years of probation, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to one charge of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • David Alan Blair, 26, of Clarksburg, Maryland was sentenced to five months in prison, 18 months of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to one charge of civil disorder.
  • Lonnie Leroy Coffman, 70, of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to 46 months, three years of supervised release and ordered to pay $200 after pleading guilty to possession of an unregistered firearm.
  • Robert Maurice Reeder, 55, of Bel Air, Maryland, was sentenced to three months in prison and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to one count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Moises Romero, of Cooper City, Florida, was sentenced to a year and a day in prison, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to one count of civil disorder.
  • Frank J. Scavo, 58, of Old Forge, Pennsylvania, was sentenced to 60 days in prison and ordered to pay a combined $5,510 after pleading guilty to one count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Matthew Jay Webler, 42, of Decatur, Georgia, was sentenced to 45 days in prison and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to one count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Thomas Webster, 54, of White Plains, New York, was sentenced to 10 years in prison, three year of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,570 after being found guilty of a number of charges, including assaulting, resisting or impeding an officer with a dangerous weapon.
  • Russell Dean Alford, 60, of Hokes Bluff, Alabama, was sentenced to a year in prison, a year of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $570 after being convicted of a number of charges, including violent entry to the Capitol.
  • Tommy Frederick Allan, 52, of Rocklin, California, was sentenced to 21 months in prison, three years of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding.
  • Ryan Keith Ashlock, of Gardner, Kansas, was sentenced to 70 days in prison, 12 months of supervised release, 100 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Matthew Baggott, 29, of Woodbury, Tennessee, was sentenced to three months in prison, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525.
  • Dawn Bancroft, 58, of Doylestown, Pennsylvania, was sentenced to 60 days in prison, three years' probation, 100 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510.
  • Robert L. Bauer, 43, of Cave City, Kentucky, was sentenced to 45 days incarceration, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to a charge of demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Bryan Betancur, also known as "Bryan Clooney" or "Maximo Clooney," 23, of Silver Spring, Maryland—a self-professed white supremacist, according to court documents—was sentenced to four months in prison, a year of supervised release, and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to a charge of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Dona Sue Bissey, 52, of Bloomfield, Indiana, was sentenced to 14 days in prison, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • James Bonet, 29, of Glens Falls, New York, was sentenced to 90 days in prison, a year of supervised release, 200 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Cory Ray Brannan, 23, of Midland, Texas, was sentenced to 30 days incarceration, two years of probation, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Antionne DeShaun Brodnax, of Sandston, Virginia, was sentenced to five months in prison, a year of supervised release and ordered to pay a combined $570 after pleading guilty to four charges, including disorderly conduct in a Capitol building.
  • Tammy A. Bronsburg, also known as "Tammy Butry," 49, of Williamsport, Pennsylvania, was sentenced to 20 days incarceration, two years of probation and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Boyd Allen Camper, 54, of Philipsburg, Montana, was sentenced to 60 days in prison, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Christian Glen Cortez, of Seabrook, Texas, was sentenced to four months in prison, three years of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to civil disorder.
  • Gracyn Dawn Courtright, 23, of Hurricane, West Virginia, was sentenced to 30 days in prison, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Dalton Ray Crase, 22, of Lexington, Kentucky, was sentenced to 15 days in prison, three years of probation, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $510 after pleading guilty to demonstrating in the Capitol.
  • Lawrence Dropkin Jr., 45, of Raritan, New Jersey, was sentenced to 30 days of incarceration, a year of supervised release, 60 hours of community service and ordered to pay a combined $570 after pleading guilty to several charges, including entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Treniss Jewell Evans III, 46, of Canyon Lake, Texas, was sentenced to 20 days of intermittent incarceration—meaning the sentence can be served at weekends— three years of probation and ordered to pay a combined $5,525 after pleading guilty to one count of entering and remaining in a restricted building.
  • Robert Flynt Fairchild Jr., 40, of Orlando, Florida, was sentenced to six months in prison and ordered to pay a combined $2,100 after pleading guilty to civil disorder.
  • Marilyn
You think all of these are unjust? Why? Don't just spam a bunch of names and sentences, show me a few examples and explain why you think these are egregious charges. The longest sentence there is ten years for a guy who, among other charges, was convicted for assaulting an officer with a deadly weapon as you point out. The shorter sentences are counted in days and come with small fines. None of these appear unjust or egregious at first glance at all. That's not to say none are but you gotta make your case, can't just dump that whole list and expect me to take your word that they prove your point especially when you only just looked this up despite having a very strong feeling about it earlier.
 
It’s very difficult and that is their whole point of dressing the same and wearing the plague masks still. You can track their phone and determine if someone was there if you know your usual suspects. So of these idiots film themselves committing crime and posting to social and they are linked that way.

Sounds like from what I read that’s how they busted the ones they did.
 
That list doesn’t prove what you think it does. Obstructing an official proceeding is a felony.
It actually does though. These were people that were just there and committed no violence. Meanwhile, the people attacking cops got weak sentences. Sentences ranged from 69 days to 2@+ years for people they weren’t even there.
 
It actually does though. These were people that were just there and committed no violence. Meanwhile, the people attacking cops got weak sentences. Sentences ranged from 69 days to 2@+ years for people they weren’t even there.

No you were complaining about people basically trespassing. Most of the people there were charged with a misdemeanor. If they were just simply there why did they get the up charge of obstructing an official proceeding which is a felony? So no it doesn’t.







 
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yep. not that it matters, he's still a convicted felon with a gun. he'd be heading to a medium security prison for that anyways.

oh wait, i just reread that and he was in prison when he got released from the pardon. he didn't even make it a week without reoffending. turns out he was sentenced months ago, not released. i got that mixed up.
Can you update your great thread about all the maga January 6th criminals. It was a great thread. I didn't see it on the first page. I think we have some updates so you should add the news.
 
Can you update your great thread about all the maga January 6th criminals. It was a great thread. I didn't see it on the first page. I think we have some updates so you should add the news.

sorry i'm busy combing over all of my evidence of widespread election fraud too damning for even a crackhead pillow salesman to lay eyes on while trying to decide what is the best method to beat down cops with some blue lives matter flags and shit before i go earn myself a felony criminal record and spend some time in the iron bars hotel playing hide-the-sausauge with deebo and the gang just to own the libs. i'll have to get back to you on that.

but always remember, forgiveness is to swallow when you want to spit.

JAN6---Drool-small.gif
 
sorry i'm busy combing over all of my evidence of widespread election fraud too damning for even a crackhead pillow salesman to lay eyes on while trying to decide what is the best method to beat down cops with some blue lives matter flags and shit before i go earn myself a felony criminal record and spend some time in the iron bars hotel playing hide-the-sausauge with deebo and the gang just to own the libs. i'll have to get back to you on that.

but always remember, forgiveness is to swallow when you want to spit.

JAN6---Drool-small.gif
We need to see the original thread you created. It deserves the update
 
We need to see the original thread you created. It deserves the update

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good god. all you people do is pull shit out of your ass. i don't know if i've ever created a thread on this forum but if i did it would have been years ago and it probably wouldn't be anything to do with the maga insurrection.
 
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good god. all you people do is pull shit out of your ass. i don't know if i've ever created a thread on this forum but if i did it would have been years ago and it probably wouldn't be anything to do with the maga insurrection.
Yes that one. You know it. Please update it for us. It's like the end of a movie
 
Yes that one. You know it. Please update it for us. It's like the end of a movie

your shitposts are shit. maybe when you come back with your next account you will learn how to gaslight.
 
your shitposts are shit. maybe when you come back with your next account you will learn how to gaslight.
First account. Oh so I have the wrong person? I thought it was you that started and updated us with those criminals going to jail. I think it's fair to update that thread now. It makes you seem a little biased if you don't.
 
First account. Oh so I have the wrong person? I thought it was you that started and updated us with those criminals going to jail. I think it's fair to update that thread now. It makes you seem a little biased if you don't.

no that wasn't me. i never really make threads on here. go take it up with the thread starter if you've got an issue.
 

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A Missouri woman who stole Nancy Pelosi’s name plate during the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, and was later pardoned by President Donald Trump, was sentenced days later for an unrelated DUI crash that killed a mom of two.

Emily Hernandez, 25, was sentenced to 10 years in prison on Wednesday and will serve a concurrent 7-year sentence for a Jan. 5, 2022, wrong-way crash that killed 32-year-old Victoria Wilson and seriously injured her husband, Ryan Wilson.

Hernandez “chose her actions that night and she chose wrong over and over and over again,” Victoria Wilson’s niece Desirae Raymo told the outlet after the sentencing. “I don’t feel any amount [of time] she will serve will bring her back, it won’t rectify her actions. I hope she can change and be a better person.”

Ethan B. Corlija, Hernandez’s attorney, told HuffPost in an email that Hernandez “will be eligible for early release under the guidelines used by the Missouri Department of Corrections.”"
 
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If Trump had looked at individual cases, the long criminal records of some Jan. 6 defendants may have raised some red flags.

Theodore Middendorf was accused by Illinois prosecutors of "Predatory Criminal Sexual Assault of a Child." Prosecutors said in a court filing obtained by NPR that Middendorf "committed an act of sexual penetration." Indiana state records indicate that Middendorf's victim was 7 years old.

Peter Schwartz had a "jaw-dropping criminal history of 38 prior convictions going back to 1991" when he assaulted police officers with pepper spray on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors.

When those prosecutors made their sentencing recommendations to the judge, they described a 1994 disorderly conduct case for throwing a "lit cigarette at a victim" and striking her "near her eyes"; a 2004 case for assault with a deadly weapon; a 2019 case for "terroristic threats" for threatening police while under arrest for domestic assault; and a 2020 case of assaulting his wife "including by biting her on the forehead and punching her multiple times."

David Daniel of Mint Hill, N.C., is charged with "Production of Child Pornography" and "Possession of Child Pornography," which allegedly "involved a prepubescent minor" and a child under 12 years old.


The government's forecast of evidence is compelling and suggests Defendant engaged in sexual acts with two young girls in his own family," Magistrate Judge David Keesler wrote of the case against Daniel. "It is also alleged he took and kept photos of the genitalia of the victims. The mother of one victim (Defendant's ex−wife) appeared in court to request that Defendant not be released." Because of those findings, Judge Keesler ordered Daniel to remain in detention pending trial. Daniel has pleaded not guilty to the charges in North Carolina and that case remains pending.

Kasey Hopkins, "has a lengthy and troubling criminal history" including a 2002 conviction for "forcible rape," which resulted in a seven-year prison sentence, according to prosecutors' sentencing memorandum for his Jan. 6 case.

"The defendant had forcible intercourse with the victim, choked her to the point of impairing her vision, banged her head into a wall, and urinated into the victim's mouth to humiliate her," prosecutors alleged in arguments over sentencing. "When the victim attempted to flee, naked, the defendant caught up to her and threw her down."

Benjamin Martin pled to obstruction of a public officer in 2003, a 2016 battery charge where he repeatedly struck his 14-year-old daughter, and a 2018 battery charge where Martin choked his girlfriend and dragged her back into the house after she tried to flee," prosecutors wrote.


 
It actually does though. These were people that were just there and committed no violence. Meanwhile, the people attacking cops got weak sentences. Sentences ranged from 69 days to 2@+ years for people they weren’t even there.
Who wasn't there and got 2+ years other than Tario? And what do you think a fair punishment would be for someone who broke into the Capitol building to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power? If anything those sentences seem perfectly fair to me at first glance so unless you can point to a specific example and explain how they got railroaded then I remain very skeptical. After all you only looked into it when I asked you for examples despite feeling strongly about it throughout the thread, doesn't that make you pause even for just a moment?
 
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