International Vance, Zelensky, Trump argue in front of press

[MrShady]

nobody is trying to downplay the support US gives to israel
the reality is that every administration in US history gave aid to israel since the 1950s, they have their hooks in us BAD

Thanks Obama

Mossad/AIPAC is the real enemy of the US citizens imo.

Where are the epstein files Pam Bondi?!

 

[Bob Sagat]

Mossad/AIPAC is the real enemy of the US citizens imo.

I think that's going a little easy on them if anything.
but I'm glad these discussions are entering the popular discourse

 

[HomeCheese]

He been investigated a few times be different agencies and none Of them stated he’s a Russian asset .

Okay with regards to the Mueller investigation they found over 100 point of contact between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. Timing between meetings and Russia releasing hacked information seems suspicious.

What do you think the Trump campaign and Russian operatives were discussing during those 100+ points of contact?

 

[Deorum]

Mossad/AIPAC is the real enemy of the US citizens imo.

I think that's going a little easy on them if anything.
but I'm glad these discussions are entering the popular discourse

Based Massie.



No Frills, All Principles.

 

[Deorum]

 

[HomeCheese]

Ronald Reagan would want to beat the shit out of traitor Trump, Russian asset POS.

Trump wants to allow Russia to build the wall all over again. Trump caved in one month.

 

[Crazy Source]

How do you have the audacity to think this is about cutting costs.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I think he is just mad that Scott Jennings is gaining momentum to replace Mitch, and not Massie, and continues to miscalculate his political moves.

Trumps needs the budget to get his agenda moving, and his/their argument is you spend now to get returns.

Simple as

 

[Crazy Source]

I think he is just mad that Scott Jennings is gaining momentum to replace Mitch, and not Massie, and continues to miscalculate his political moves.

Trumps needs the budget to get his agenda moving, and his/their argument is you spend now to get returns.

Simple as

Let those roaches fight.

 

[nhbbear]

So in other words you're taking Trump's word for it and don't have a reliable source? Just kind of assuming things to fill in the blanks?

Reading comprehension. Why are you being a snot? Why do liberals get so touchy when anyone dares to complain about the US spending so much money in the affairs of others? Did you not see where I specifically said I don’t trust trump as a source?? I just included that for shits and giggles, but you took that as my source despite me pointing out that I didn’t believe him. I don’t post every source because they all had different numbers, but you want sources to prove that? Fine. I bet you don’t click on any of them.


Look it up yourself. I didn’t post them, but here were the three sources I got my numbers from, but each one says something different and that is my whole point. No one knows exactly what was sent/spent/allocated/ or promised because the government hasn’t released it. There are at least 4 sources below, each with a different amount sent to Ukraine. One purports to be the US government accountability office and that article has two different amounts-174 billion and 113 billion. And biden released it in different increments at different times. I don’t think we will ever know the true costs. For reference, Japan gave 7 billion, Germany and UK gave a bit more, but overall, the US has given more than all the other countries COMBINED. Where are the richest countries in the Middle East? Nothing because they are semi allies with Russia

The La fires weeks ago will cost 250 Billion according to estimates but could be higher, could be lower. Where’s that money coming from? The number of countries offering financial support has been extensive…….extensively zero, but several countries have offered to send fire fighters which is cool.


Plus, at least 23 billion to Israel.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-us-military-
spending-8e6e5033f7a1334bf6e35f86e7040e14

Ukraine Aid with each one having a different amount.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-107232

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-us-aid-ukraine-money-equipment-714688682747

Other countries contributions to Ukraine
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...ntries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine

LA wildfire estimate
https://www.latimes.com/business/st...fire-damage-balloons-to-more-than-250-billion

La wildfire offers of assistance in the form of physical aid
https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-...und-world-helping-fight-los-angeles-wildfires

LA wildfire offers from other countries for financial support
…………crickets………..

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Let those roaches fight.

I actually do look forward to that. Both are smart and great speakers. Will be libertarian avatar vs typical conservative who has bent the knee to Trump, but didn’t because can read the room.

Would be very entertaining

 

[ViD]

For those clowns still supporting the great track suit leader

 

[aerius]

For those clowns still supporting the great track suit leader

Wait, aren't you Russian? You're clearly biased and not a credible source!

(yes, that's a joke, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some retard actually says this for real)

 

[djacobox372]

Why do liberals get so touchy when anyone dares to complain about the US spending so much money in the affairs of others? Did you not see where I specifically said I don’t trust trump as a source?? I just included that for shits and giggles, but you took that as my source despite me pointing out that I didn’t believe him. I don’t post every source because they all had different numbers, but you want sources to prove that? Fine. I bet you don’t click on any of them.

Uhh... over the past 30 years it's been "the liberals" who are the ones complaining bout wasting money in foreign wars, whereas the conservatives and GOP have been the ones forcing

Reading comprehension. Why are you being a snot? Why do liberals get so touchy when anyone dares to complain about the US spending so much money in the affairs of others? Did you not see where I specifically said I don’t trust trump as a source?? I just included that for shits and giggles, but you took that as my source despite me pointing out that I didn’t believe him. I don’t post every source because they all had different numbers, but you want sources to prove that? Fine. I bet you don’t click on any of them.


Look it up yourself. I didn’t post them, but here were the three sources I got my numbers from, but each one says something different and that is my whole point. No one knows exactly what was sent/spent/allocated/ or promised because the government hasn’t released it. There are at least 4 sources below, each with a different amount sent to Ukraine. One purports to be the US government accountability office and that article has two different amounts-174 billion and 113 billion. And biden released it in different increments at different times. I don’t think we will ever know the true costs. For reference, Japan gave 7 billion, Germany and UK gave a bit more, but overall, the US has given more than all the other countries COMBINED. Where are the richest countries in the Middle East? Nothing because they are semi allies with Russia

The La fires weeks ago will cost 250 Billion according to estimates but could be higher, could be lower. Where’s that money coming from? The number of countries offering financial support has been extensive…….extensively zero, but several countries have offered to send fire fighters which is cool.


Plus, at least 23 billion to Israel.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-us-military-
spending-8e6e5033f7a1334bf6e35f86e7040e14

Ukraine Aid with each one having a different amount.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-107232

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-us-aid-ukraine-money-equipment-714688682747

Other countries contributions to Ukraine
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...ntries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine

LA wildfire estimate
https://www.latimes.com/business/st...fire-damage-balloons-to-more-than-250-billion

La wildfire offers of assistance in the form of physical aid
https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-...und-world-helping-fight-los-angeles-wildfires

LA wildfire offers from other countries for financial support
…………crickets………..

Supporting foreign wars has typically been a conservative thing, at least since Reagan.

Do you really think that "liberals" have aal of a sudden become war-hawks? And just want to spend-spend-spend in Ukraine for no reason?

No, it's just that the right side of this conflict is so painfully obvious even liberals, who are most reluctant to support wars, think we should.

The real question is: why the change of tune by conservative leadership?

Also... the vast majority of the so-called money being sent to Ukraine is in the form of equipment that is destined for the scrap-heap anyway, due to the conservative supported defense spending that outpaces the rest of the world combined.

 

[Andy Capp]

This is from a Ukrainian living in the war zone as we speak. If you want Ukraine to fight on then this is what you're supporting. How many people have to be kidnapped and sent to their deaths on the front line before it's enough? 1000? 10,000? A million?

Suck that Putin cock a little harder. You're overpaid.

 

[Death By Samson]

I've listened to Rubio, Waltz and Gabbard this morning and it sure as hell sounds like Trump is done funding Ukraine. Rubio was fired up.


Waltz


Rubio


Gabbard

 

[KoreanZawmbie]

Trump...you were brought in to hack away at the deficit. Not increase it.

 

[Cajun]

Sure just like Trump supporters like yourself will always make excuses fire Trump but setting that aside can you see why the security guarantee was a sticking point for Zelensky and that he didn't need Dems to dictate that to him?

What is the excuse? I merely said no matter what the deal the dems would likely hate it. I have no idea who has even seen the deal. No he wanted to clarify the guarantees. He said they are in there but he's too unsure about Putin and don't know if they will hold.

 

[Andy Capp]

i don't think it was a conspiracy with the euro leaders. in fact a counterargument to that is how retarded it looks to have all post the same shit. how it probably happened is they have group chats and agreed on a form of text for a fast response and all of them forgot to change it up a bit when they sent it down the chain, so that's why it looks like AI wrote it.

but if Zelenski was there to sign a deal and the deal was agreed upon and he reneged, it makes him look like a dipshit. if however he knew of one deal, got to washington and suddenly the deal was different and they just wanted to bully him into signing it, then trump and vance are the dipshits.

No deal was agreed upon. The Trump administration lied in saying so, but Ukraine (via Zelensky and/or his team) pointed out before they ever arrived in Washington that it was to begin negotiations this past Friday.

 

[nhbbear]

Uhh... over the past 30 years it's been "the liberals" who are the ones complaining bout wasting money in foreign wars, whereas the conservatives and GOP have been the ones forcing


Supporting foreign wars has typically been a conservative thing, at least since Reagan.

Do you really think that "liberals" have aal of a sudden become war-hawks? And just want to spend-spend-spend in Ukraine for no reason?

No, it's just that the right side of this conflict is so painfully obvious even liberals, who are most reluctant to support wars, think we should.

The real question is: why the change of tune by conservative leadership?

Also... the vast majority of the so-called money being sent to Ukraine is in the form of equipment that is destined for the scrap-heap anyway, due to the conservative supported defense spending that outpaces the rest of the world combined.

History has nothing to do with this. It doesn’t matter to me who supported what or when. All that matters to me is that we are giving away ridiculous amounts of money AND equipment. The whole point of my rant was that no one seems to know and the government isn’t telling us what they are spending. What I found in quite a while in searching is that we have spent at least 113 billion in cash and approximately 60-75 million in equipment. And that brings up another point on government wasteful spending. There is nothing wrong with the functioning equipment we have to Ukraine. Why would we get rid of it in the first place? Because we have to make room for the new equipment that we are contractually obligated to buy from defense contractors every year. They bought a few senators who got them the sweetheart contract and we keeps buying stuff even though we don’t need it because the “old” stuff was still functioning just fine and had never been used.

And liberals do get very touchy whenever you criticize what we are spending in regards to Ukraine. Like, how dare I have the audacity to question how much we are spending, where the money is coming from, and to point out that we have given more than every other country combined. And in addition, the fact that neither side of our government would ever say “ok, we have serious drug abuse and homeless issues-we are allocating 100 billion dollars to fix the issues.” Don’t get it twisted, I am not saying we should do that or that I wouldn’t complain about that, I am just saying that we wouldn’t spend that much money here for one issue yet we have seemingly little problem putting ourselves further in debt to help out a country that would never bother coming to our aid.