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[Here's Johnny!]

Loads of BS. You are coping hard there LOL Khamzat and Burns the same weight? These two guys even a monkey can tell have 30 - 40 lbs in between. You are desperate at this point.


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Huh? Burns has a much thicker back and legs than Chimaev here.. KC is still probably like 5 lbs heavier .. 30 wtf. 30 lbs is freaking massive.... for comparison Brock was less than 30 lbs heavier than Cain when they fought.... are you always a troll or just on a Bender?


30 lbs is the difference between flyweight and lightweight brickhead.... do you think khamzat was like Khabib fighting mighty mouse? That's 30lbs.. you clearly don't know what a pound is. It's kind of embarrassing....

 

[Fergelmince]

Weigh-Ins & Face-Offs: Rafael Lovato Jr. vs Gilbert Burns

All sixteen athletes successfully made weight ahead of WNO: Rafael Lovato Jr vs Gilbert Burns. Here are the official weights.

www.flograppling.com

In that link, in the video at 9:30 to 9:40, we have Burns weighing in, with clothes on, at 203.2 lbs for a grappling match in April 2021, a year before he faced Khamzat.

"All sixteen athletes successfully made weight ahead of WNO: Rafael Lovato Jr vs Gilbert Burns.

Main card

Rafael Lovato Jr. – 203.2 lbs

Gilbert Burns – 203.2 lbs "

I hope that's good enough evidence and that you can fit 30 seconds into your schedule to see what Burns at 200 lbs looks like.

It's the most I can do, since you're also wasting my time by telling me I'm wrong and asking for evidence, then refusing to acknowledge said evidence.

You mean the day before his fight during his weight cut.

Yeah if he got into a fight and ruined the card you guys would be saying shit too

I bet you cried to sleep after the Whitaker fight

Here's Burns confirming he's about 180 on fight night



Here's Chimaev confirming he was about 190 on fight night vs Burns



Burns is obviously just a stockier guy, which means more of his weight is fat, whereas more of Chimaev's weight is muscle. So when Chimaev gets a 10lb advantage in the cage, and his weight ratio is more muscle than Burns, the advantage is ridiculous.

Poor Chimaev nuthuggers just can't cope with reality

 

[188912345]

Here's Burns confirming he's about 180 on fight night



Here's Chimaev confirming he was about 190 on fight night vs Burns

Bro, if you listen to the minute before in the Burns video you can hear that he's talking about when he made 155 lbs, and that he then was fighting at 180-182 lbs, which is similar to Drew Dober or Moicano at LW.

You can also see from his weigh-ins as a LW that he's completely sucked dry, very lean and muscular.

Check the grappling weighin from 2021 at 203.2 lbs and you will see that he's clearly not 20 lbs less than that on fight night as a WW.

Khamzat claimed he was 86 kg (189 lbs).

 

[Here's Johnny!]

Here's Burns confirming he's about 180 on fight night



Here's Chimaev confirming he was about 190 on fight night vs Burns



Burns is obviously just a stockier guy, which means more of his weight is fat, whereas more of Chimaev's weight is muscle. So when Chimaev gets a 10lb advantage in the cage, and his weight ratio is more muscle than Burns, the advantage is ridiculous.

Poor Chimaev nuthuggers just can't cope with reality

I don't think anyone is arguing that KC was not larger than Burns. Even though stocky doesn't mean fat... it means short.. that's all muscle... I think people are arguing with the dense guy saying KC was 30 lbs heavier

 

[Fergelmince]

I don't think anyone is arguing that KC was not larger than Burns. Even though stocky doesn't mean fat... it means short.. that's all muscle... I think people are arguing with the dense guy saying KC was 30 lbs heavier

No, that's not what those guys were arguing with me about. You just came in late and don't understand the context.

 

[188912345]

No, that's not what those guys were arguing with me about. You just came in late and don't understand the context.

You took a Burns video totally out of context where he's talking about fighting at 180+ lbs as a LW and played it off as if he was talking about his fight weight as a WW.

 

[Fergelmince]

You took a Burns video totally out of context where he's talking about fighting at 180+ lbs as a LW and played it off as if he was talking about his fight weight as a WW.

He says very clearly he doesn't like the way he feels at 185. Do you have evidence he weighed more than 180lbs in the cage vs Chimaev?

 

[188912345]

He says very clearly he doesn't like the way he feels at 185. Do you have evidence he weighed more than 180lbs in the cage vs Chimaev?

Come on, now you're pretending to be stupid.

He's talking about when he was fighting at 155, and even put up a picture of himself from the weigh-in at 155, and that he then fought at 180-182 lbs on fight night.

He also said he felt great after he made weight, that it was an advantage in round 1, but later his energy dropped. (Paraphrasing).

My evidence is common sense, a fighter who used to fight at 180+ as a LW obviously doesn't weigh less than that at fight night after moving up a weight class (15 lbs) and carrying visibly more body fat.

With more body fat comes also more muscle, since you can't really cut down fat fast without also losing some muscle mass.

I also showed the grappling weigh-in from 2021 where he weighed in at 200+ without looking considerably bigger than he did at fight night at WW, definitely not 20 lbs heavier.

 

[Fergelmince]

Come on, now you're pretending to be stupid.

He's talking about when he was fighting at 155, and even put up a picture of himself from the weigh-in at 155, and that he then fought at 180-182 lbs on fight night.

He also said he felt great after he made weight, that it was an advantage in round 1, but later his energy dropped. (Paraphrasing).

My evidence is common sense, a fighter who used to fight at 180+ as a LW obviously doesn't weigh less than that at fight night after moving up a weight class (15 lbs) and carrying visibly more body fat.

With more body fat comes also more muscle, since you can't really cut down fat fast without also losing some muscle mass.

I also showed the grappling weigh-in from 2021 where he weighed in at 200+ without looking considerably bigger than he did at fight night at WW, definitely not 20 lbs heavier.

"My evidence is common sense"



I've already given you evidence Burns is happy and feels at his best fighting at 180lbs. he said it very clearly - "Many times I fought at 180-182, always 180."

You however, have provided no evidence to the contrary. I'm happy to take a look if you can find it. But for right now, you've got nothing to stand on. Chimaev was way bigger.

 

[Intermission]

You guys must have never seen this sport called boxing.

honestly his punches werent that great...

 

[188912345]

"My evidence is common sense"



Just post evidence he fought in the UFC cage at 190lbs like chimaev.

Again, you posted the video where he talked about fighting at 180-182 lbs as a LW, he even included a picture from a LW-weigh in.

Now you're arguing that he's not fighting heavier than that, at the 170 lbs weightclass?

While looking even more muscular and carrying more fat?

How does that make any sense?

Then we also have his 203.2 lbs weigh-in in April 2021 for a grappling match.

You're not arguing in good faith here.

 

[188912345]

"My evidence is common sense"



I've already given you evidence Burns is happy and feels at his best fighting at 180lbs. he said it very clearly - "Many times I fought at 180-182, always 180."

You however, have provided no evidence to the contrary. I'm happy to take a look if you can find it. But for right now, you've got nothing to stand on. Chimaev was way bigger.

The evidence is in the same video, in the 30 seconds or so before he mentions 180-182 he clearly states that he's talking about when he fought at LW.

He even included a picture from a LW-weigh-in.

"A couple of times when I made 55' I was fighting at 180" though he mispronounced so it's like "one neinty"
Then he goes on to say he fought at 180-182.

Check for yourself at around 4:40-4:50.

He also says ; How crazy is that!? Which only makes sense because he talked about LW/'155/55'.

He also talks about the culture of weight cutting, and how he felt he had an advantage on his opponents at '55 when he weighed in heavy, but that he then fatigued in the later rounds.

Then we have Gilbert in 2023 talking about Conor and his chances of success if he moves up to WW

Whenever [McGregor] is committed to training, no whiskey, no crazy stuff, if they lock him up and this guy’s focused on training, he’s very dangerous. But I don’t think that’s the case. But that’s at 155. At 170, it’s a whole different game. We’re all like 190 [pounds], lean, mean, fighting the best guys in the world, and this guy thinks he’s going to jump out of the yacht and beat me, beat one of the top 5 [fighters]?

I'm assuming he's including himself when he says "We're all like 190 lbs lean, mean."

Gilbert Burns Claims Anyone In The Top-Five At Welterweight Finishes Conor McGregor 'Inside Three Rounds' | MiddleEasy

Gilbert Burns was frustrated by Conor McGregor and the fifth-ranked welterweight doesn't think the Irishman does well at 170lbs.

middleeasy.com

 

[Fergelmince]

The evidence is in the same video, in the 30 seconds or so before he mentions 180-182 he clearly states that he's talking about when he fought at LW.

He even included a picture from a LW-weigh-in.

"A couple of times when I made 55' I was fighting at 180" though he mispronounced so it's like "one neinty"
Then he goes on to say he fought at 180-182.

Check for yourself at around 4:40-4:50.

He also says ; How crazy is that!? Which only makes sense because he talked about LW/'155/55'.

He also talks about the culture of weight cutting, and how he felt he had an advantage on his opponents at '55 when he weighed in heavy, but that he then fatigued in the later rounds.

"Always 180. And I felt powerful. I felt, man, I have more advantage."

I don't hear him give a different cage weight for his WW fights, even though he was just coming off his peak, having got the title shot at WW. If he weighed more than 180, he'd probably say, considering he had been fighting at 170 for 6 fights and 3 years.

Always means always, buddy. The evidence shows Chimaev had almost 10lbs on him in the cage.

 

[188912345]

"Always 180. And I felt powerful. I felt, man, I have more advantage."

I don't hear him give a different cage weight for his WW fights, even though he was just coming off his peak, having got the title shot at WW. If he weighed more than 180, he'd probably say, considering he had been fighting at 170 for 6 fights and 3 years.

Always means always, buddy. The evidence shows Chimaev had almost 10lbs on him in the cage.

You're purposefully misquoting a Brazilians not perfect English to make it fit your argument by using just a small part of what he was saying.

He was talking about how much he weighed at 155, hence why he inserted a picture or himself at weigh-in at 155.

But that’s at 155. At 170, it’s a whole different game. We’re all like 190 [pounds], lean, mean, fighting the best guys in the world, and this guy thinks he’s going to jump out of the yacht and beat me, beat one of the top 5 [fighters]?

This is him talking about Conor at WW.

Gilbert Burns Claims Anyone In The Top-Five At Welterweight Finishes Conor McGregor 'Inside Three Rounds' | MiddleEasy

Gilbert Burns was frustrated by Conor McGregor and the fifth-ranked welterweight doesn't think the Irishman does well at 170lbs.

middleeasy.com

It must be the Khamzat-derangement-syndrome that makes you guys quadruple down on being wrong.

 

[Fergelmince]

You're purposefully misquoting a Brazilians not perfect English to make it fit your argument by using just a small part of what he was saying.

He was talking about how much he weighed at 155, hence why he inserted a picture or himself at weigh-in at 155.

But that’s at 155. At 170, it’s a whole different game. We’re all like 190 [pounds], lean, mean, fighting the best guys in the world, and this guy thinks he’s going to jump out of the yacht and beat me, beat one of the top 5 [fighters]?

This is him talking about Conor at WW.

Gilbert Burns Claims Anyone In The Top-Five At Welterweight Finishes Conor McGregor 'Inside Three Rounds' | MiddleEasy

Gilbert Burns was frustrated by Conor McGregor and the fifth-ranked welterweight doesn't think the Irishman does well at 170lbs.

middleeasy.com

FINALLY you post some evidence. Although that's over a year after his fight with Chimaev, Burns had turned 37yo, and the pic in @MMAFanCal 's post below still shows Chimaev is bigger at the face off. It's still reasonable to conclude Chimaev has about 10lbs on him in the cage.

Yeah, I edited my post. You did not call me 'coping'. I misread the intent. Apologize for it. I am not aware of any 'naughty' connotations around that word. It just means one is trying to skew the facts to cope better.

I still want that source. Burns was the same exact height and weight as Poirier when they both trained at ATT. Burns said, Poirier was 190 lbs a lot of times and to quote 'he was bigger than me'. Basically, he was saying a lot of lightweights at 155 lbs like Islam and Poirier were actually bigger than him trying to make the point that they could easily be welterweight like himself. Combine that with the fact that Khamzat is a lot bigger, heavier, skeletal structure etc. He has a large frame. Bones are the heaviest part of anyone's body composition.

It is just basic physics. These two guys being 5 lbs apart, is just false. You know it well.

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[188912345]

FINALLY you post some evidence. Although that's over a year after his fight with Chimaev, Burns had turned 37yo, and the pic in @MMAFanCal 's post below still shows Chimaev is bigger at the face off. It's still reasonable to conclude Chimaev has about 10lbs on him in the cage.

Dude, you posted the evidence.

Only problem was that you purposefully misinterpreted it (the video where he clearly was talking about his weightcut to 155).

Or perhaps you just heard 180-182 and didn't listen anymore before or after to get the context, and you would also have had to close your eyes to ignore the picture of his LW-weigh in that was showed while he was talking.

You used his Brazilian accent to your advantage to pretend you didn't hear him say "at 55" when he talked about being 180-182 lbs at fight night, and how crazy it was.

Taller is not heavier.

Khamzat had a 4" height and reach advantage though and should have fought smarter.

Glad this is over, have a good weekend!

 

[Reach Finesse]

Here's Burns confirming he's about 180 on fight night



Here's Chimaev confirming he was about 190 on fight night vs Burns



Burns is obviously just a stockier guy, which means more of his weight is fat, whereas more of Chimaev's weight is muscle. So when Chimaev gets a 10lb advantage in the cage, and his weight ratio is more muscle than Burns, the advantage is ridiculous.

Poor Chimaev nuthuggers just can't cope with reality

Wtf are you on about..i never mentioned his weight...i was talking about the Costa beef

 

[Fergelmince]

Dude, you posted the evidence.

Only problem was that you purposefully misinterpreted it (the video where he clearly was talking about his weightcut to 155).

Or perhaps you just heard 180-182 and didn't listen anymore before or after to get the context, and you would also have had to close your eyes to ignore the picture of his LW-weigh in that was showed while he was talking.

You used his Brazilian accent to your advantage to pretend you didn't hear him say "at 55" when he talked about being 180-182 lbs at fight night, and how crazy it was.

Taller is not heavier.

Khamzat had a 4" height and reach advantage though and should have fought smarter.

Glad this is over, have a good weekend!

No, he says 180, then he says 180 exactly the same way in the video I posted earlier. You may want to get headphones and listen more closely. And I didn't say Chimaev looks taller, he looks bigger all over.

 

[MMAFanCal]

FINALLY you post some evidence. Although that's over a year after his fight with Chimaev, Burns had turned 37yo, and the pic in @MMAFanCal 's post below still shows Chimaev is bigger at the face off. It's still reasonable to conclude Chimaev has about 10lbs on him in the cage.

Agreed. I have given up basically. The thread went way off topic, yet moderators did not address it. I have asked for proper fight night weight results as evidence. No way is it 5 lbs. I cannot argue with rabid Khamzat fans who will continue to go round and circles asking me to shun my common sense. Just simply don't have time.

At this point, I am just waiting for the fight to happen. They try to pass their own subjective, biased opinions, as facts without any evidence.

Khamzat is a solid 6'2". Burns is no more than 5'9". He is no bigger than Poirier and also, a solid 2 inches shorter than Usman who is around 5'11" at best. Khamzat was cutting a lot of weight back in those days. He would cut to 170 lbs from around 205 lbs at least. Burns always said, welterweight is his natural weight and he does not cut weight. My estimation is, he is around 175 - 178 lbs at best in that fight.

Burns looks tiny next to Khamzat. With the sheer weight of bones alone and then the fact that Khamzat is cutting a lot of weight. Burns looks much smaller than Dana White while Khamzat looks HUGE next to Burns. 5 lbs weight different is not even noticeable.

When Islam fought Moicano, he weighed 178 lbs while Moicano weighed 182 lbs. You could barely tell the difference. 5 lbs is less than 3% of the weight difference. It is negligible. Moicano actually looked smaller since Islam has a more muscular build

Islam at 178 lbs and Moicano at 182 lbs. 5 lbs difference on what it actually looks like. Barely noticeable.







Now, look at Khamzat next to Burns. Khamzat is way bigger than Burns. No matter the weight difference, the size difference is undeniable. Khamzat looks HUGE next to Burns. 5 lbs, 10 lbs, 20 lbs, 30 lbs. Does not matter. Khamzat in MMA terms, was way bigger than Burns. Rest is all subjective opinions that would skew one way or the other. Does not matter. One thing is a FACT that Khamzat is way bigger than Burns. No one should be insulting another person's intelligence by trying to contradict this fact and saying, they are similar. Period.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Speed is about the same. He is landing very hard with those gunshots because there is more weight behind them as he is much bigger here/carrying more muscle.

This is just before Adesanya fight at around 215 lbs.

He was already putting on weight for the Strickland rematch as he assumed he was going to be facing Khamzat instead of Sean again. DDP and his team have been gameplanning specifically for Khamzat for the last 8 months. Will be a barnburner.

Khamzat and Burns were likely within a few pounds of the same weight at fight night.