Media UPDATED - Video: Dricus looking big and powerful in training ahead of UFC 319

[188912345]

Loads of BS. You are coping hard there LOL Khamzat and Burns the same weight? You are desperate at this point.

I thought coping was a naughty word that we're not supposed to use while engaging in a civil discussion.

Yes, I think they were within 5 lbs or so of each other at fight night at WW.

If you notice, Burns is a lot thicker and more muscular. Thicker legs and neck, etc.

The stats for Soldic and Burns heights are literally taken from ONE FC and UFC, check for yourself before being rude.

 

[MMAFanCal]

I thought coping was a naughty word that we're not supposed to use while engaging in a civil discussion.

Yes, I think they were within 5 lbs or so of each other at fight night at WW.

If you notice, Burns is a lot thicker and more muscular. Thicker legs and neck, etc.

Yeah, show me the source where it says they were 5 lbs apart? Not some random internet account. You clearly don't understand physiology. Khamzat looks HUGE next to Burns with a much thicker, longer, heavier skeletal structure. Burns looked the same size, weight as Poirier in side by side pictures when they both trained at ATT. You believed photoshopped Khamzat pictures. So, put official source up. I am waiting.

 

[Speedy1]

looks the same as always imo.

 

[188912345]

Yeah, show me the source where it says they were 5 lbs apart? That is laughable. Not some random internet account. You believed photoshopped Khamzat pictures and you have the audacity to accuse me of coping? Put your official source up. I am waiting.

What?

You were the one calling me desperate and accusing me of coping regarding Burns and Khamzat's weight at fight night at WW.

Why would I need to cope, when he didn't even lose the fight?

I have no idea what photoshopped picture you're talking about or why it's relevant to this discussion.

Just out of curiously, how much do you think Burns weighed in that fight and how much do you think Khamzat weighed?

Can't you see the difference in the thickness of Burns and Khamzat at 170?

It's very, very noticeable.

 

[MMAFanCal]

What?

You were the one calling me desperate and accusing me of coping regarding Burns and Khamzat's weight at fight night at WW.

Why would I need to cope, when he didn't even lose the fight?

I have no idea what photoshopped picture you're talking about or why it's relevant to this discussion.

Just out of curiously, how much do you think Burns weighed in that fight and how much do you think Khamzat weighed?

Can't you see the difference in the thickness of Burns and Khamzat at 170?

It's very, very noticeable.

Yeah, I edited my post. You did not call me 'coping'. I misread the intent. Apologize for it. I am not aware of any 'naughty' connotations around that word. It just means one is trying to skew the facts to cope better.

I still want that source. Burns was the same exact height and weight as Poirier when they both trained at ATT. Burns said, Poirier was 190 lbs a lot of times and to quote 'he was bigger than me'. Basically, he was saying a lot of lightweights at 155 lbs like Islam and Poirier were actually bigger than him trying to make the point that they could easily be welterweight like himself. Combine that with the fact that Khamzat is a lot bigger, heavier, skeletal structure etc. He has a large frame. Bones are the heaviest part of anyone's body composition.

It is just basic physics. These two guys being 5 lbs apart, is just false. You know it well.

 

[Fergelmince]

According to Wikipedia, ONE, and UFC, Burns and Soldic are the same height (5'10)

Khamzat and Burns were likely within a few pounds of the same weight at fight night.

There are weight classes, not height classes.

Khamzat is 6'2, Dricus 6'1.

Also, Khamzat didn't get knocked out, he took him down moments later and then went on to win the fight.

Burns is a former 155er whereas Chimaev almost killed himself to make 170. Chimaev is not even allowed to fight at 170 anymore because he'll destroy a PPV event and is permanently at 185 now. The size difference is much greater between Chimaev and Burns.

Here's Khamzat ordering his sauna brothers to get in between he and Costa, after challenging Costa to a fight. They even closed the gate trying to keep Costa off of Chimaev

 

[188912345]

Yeah, I edited my post. You did not call me 'coping'. I misread the intent. Apologize for it.

I still want that source. Burns was the same exact height and weight as Poirier when they both trained at ATT. Burns said, Poirier was 190 lbs a lot of times and to quote 'he was bigger than me'. Basically, he was saying a lot of lightweights at 155 lbs like Islam and Poirier were actually bigger than him trying to make the point that they could easily be welterweight like himself. Combine that with the fact that Khamzat is a lot bigger, heavier, skeletal structure etc. Bones are the heaviest part of anyone's body composition.

It is just basic physics. Them being 5 lbs apart, is just false. You know it well.

These days, Burns (19-3, 14 finishes) looks back on the way he pushed his body to the limit by cutting weight to get down to 155 pounds as “a dumb mistake.” Living life as a man walking around at 188 to 190 pounds and a listed 5-foot-10 who needed to trim about 18 percent of his mass to make the contracted weight limited his potential.

“I couldn’t take short-notice [fights] because I needed that time to diet and make the weight,” Burns said. “And that was damaging a lot of my performance because I had to run every single day.”

That's Burns talking about when he was a LW, from a 2021 article in the NY Post.

I don't dispute that Khamzat is taller, but clearly he was pretty much a skeleton at 170 compared to Burns (and compare to himself at MW), when it comes to body fat percentage and thickness.

Gilbert Burns’ welterweight rise followed ‘horrible’ cut to 155 pounds

Back in spring 2019, a few weeks after picking up a second-round submission win over fellow UFC lightweight Mike Davis, Gilbert Burns took his family on a vacation to the Florida Keys. The vi…

nypost.com

I genuinely believe they were close in weight, otherwise I wouldn't have said it.

Except this source, I also recall Burns talking about how he went into fight week at around 190, and I also remember Khamzat weighing about 190-195ish at WW, but by all means, ignore that if you like.

 

[MMAFanCal]

These days, Burns (19-3, 14 finishes) looks back on the way he pushed his body to the limit by cutting weight to get down to 155 pounds as “a dumb mistake.” Living life as a man walking around at 188 to 190 pounds and a listed 5-foot-10 who needed to trim about 18 percent of his mass to make the contracted weight limited his potential.

“I couldn’t take short-notice [fights] because I needed that time to diet and make the weight,” Burns said. “And that was damaging a lot of my performance because I had to run every single day.”

That's Burns talking about when he was a LW, from a 2021 article in the NY Post.

I don't dispute that Khamzat is taller, but clearly he was pretty much a skeleton at 170 compared to Burns (and compare to himself at MW), when it comes to body fat percentage and thickness.

Gilbert Burns’ welterweight rise followed ‘horrible’ cut to 155 pounds

Back in spring 2019, a few weeks after picking up a second-round submission win over fellow UFC lightweight Mike Davis, Gilbert Burns took his family on a vacation to the Florida Keys. The vi…

nypost.com

I genuinely believe they were close in weight, otherwise I wouldn't have said it.

Except this source, I also recall Burns talking about how he went into fight week at around 190, and I also remember Khamzat weighing about 190-195ish at WW, but by all means, ignore that if you like.

I don't want to argue about this, bro. It is not good use of my time. I have lots to do in life. These two guys are at least 30 lbs apart from each other. It is just common sense. Other than missing sources. You can conduct a poll and you will see no one will agree with you. No way these two are 5 lbs apart. Burns looks tiny even next to Dana. Khamzat easily looks over 200 lbs there. You know it well.

 

[mkt]

According to Wikipedia, ONE, and UFC, Burns and Soldic are the same height (5'10)

Khamzat and Burns were likely within a few pounds of the same weight at fight night.

There are weight classes, not height classes.

Khamzat is 6'2, Dricus 6'1.

Also, Khamzat didn't get knocked out, he took him down moments later and then went on to win the fight.

Same Burns who was KO'd by Dan Hooker at LW. Since we're throwing lots of random facts around.

 

[188912345]

I don't want to argue about this, bro. It is not good use of my time. These two guys are at least 30 lbs apart from each other. It is just common sense. Other than missing sources. You can conduct a poll and you will see no one will agree with you. No way these two are 5 lbs apart. Khamzat easily looks over 200 lbs there. You know it well.


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Now when I proved you wrong, you're all of a sudden no longer interested in debating the point. Is it really that difficult to admit that you're wrong?

I've noticed a trend that you all of a sudden get very busy when I've proved you wrong.


There's a video of Khamzat and Arman grappling, where Khamzat's weight is listed at 92kg (202.8 lbs), from last year.
He's clearly bigger there than in April 2022 when he made WW.

 

[188912345]

Same Burns who was KO'd by Dan Hooker at LW. Since we're throwing lots of random facts around.

It clearly related to the post I quoted, so it's not random.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Now when I proved you wrong, you're all of a sudden no longer interested in debating the point. Is it really that difficult to admit that you're wrong?

I've noticed a trend that you all of a sudden get very busy when I've proved you wrong.


There's a video of Khamzat and Arman grappling, where Khamzat's weight is listed at 92kg (202.8 lbs), from last year.
He's clearly bigger there than in April 2022 when he made WW.

They are not 5 lbs within each other. Stop insulting my intelligence. I was trying to exit this stupid debate over a false premise. It was my polite way of saying 'stop wasting my time'. I gain nothing from arguing with you over a false premise. Burns is tiny next to Khamzat. End of story. Period. You just seem to be hell bent on insulting other people's intelligence. Prove it via a source of fight night weight or let other people use their common sense. Anyone and a monkey can see here Khamzat is a lot bigger than Burns. Burns is even smaller than Dana White. Again, source only. Not biased opinions.

 

[188912345]

They are not 5 lbs within each other. Stop insulting my intelligence. I was trying to exit this stupid debate over a false premise. I gain nothing from arguing with you over a false premise. You just seem to be hell bent on insulting other people's intelligence. Prove it via a source of fight night weight or let other people use their common sense. Anyone and a monkey can see Khamzat is a lot bigger than Burns Again, source only. ot biased opinions.

The NY Post article clearly stated Burns weighed 190 when he was a LW.

You think he then moved up to WW, but didn't cut any weight at all? Since you think they were 30 lbs apart.

Also, this is from the weigh in of Khamzat vs Jack Hermansson, from November 2021 where he weighs in 198ish with jeans and shoes on, while being clearly bigger than in the Burns fight.

 

[MMAFanCal]

The NY Post article clearly stated Burns weighed 190 when he was a LW.

You think he then moved up to WW, but didn't cut any weight at all? Since you think they were 30 lbs apart.

Also, this is from the weigh in of Khamzat vs Jack Hermansson, from November 2021 where he weighs in 198ish with jeans and shoes on, while being clearly bigger than in the Burns fight.

Sorry, I am going to exit this debate. I saw the fight and saw the huge size difference between the two. I am just going to leave it at that. I don't have a source from the fight night weights.

Going back to the original point, there is no chance in hell that Khamzat is knocking out Dricus. It is just mathematical probability (being an engineer, I can calculate the probability of it).

Someone with a K-1 kickboxing record of 33-0 and 31 of them via knockouts including zero defeats especially via knockouts at middleweight. Even against Soldic, they were 1-1 knockout wise and the rubber match never happened since Dricus could no longer take the welterweight cuts. At least, that is my claim. Would be happy to be held to it. Anyone can come back and shame me into eating crows after the fight.

 

[188912345]

Sorry, I am going to exit this debate. I saw the fight and saw the huge size difference between the two. I am just going to leave it at that.

Going back to the original point, there is no chance in hell that Khamzat is knocking out Dricus. It is just mathematical probability (being an engineer, I can calculate the probability of it).

Someone with a K-1 kickboxing record of 33-0 and 31 of them via knockouts including zero defeats especially via knockouts at middleweight. At least, that is my claim. Would be happy to be held to it.

That weigh in is 20 days after he fought Lee Jingliang at WW, and it's 198 lbs with shoes and jeans on, so maybe 194-195 lbs without.

Makes total sense if he was 190ish at fight night.

Big LWs, and Burns was a big LW, tend to fight at around 176-181 lbs.
How could he then be lighter than that at WW?

I don't understand why you're refusing to admit when you're wrong, but it's all good.

Regarding the fight, both have ways to win, and I'm looking forward to it.

 

[MMAFanCal]

That weigh in is 20 days after he fought Lee Jingliang at WW, and it's 198 lbs with shoes and jeans on, so maybe 194-195 lbs without.

Makes total sense if he was 190ish at fight night.

Big LWs, and Burns was a big LW, tend to fight at around 176-181 lbs.
How could he then be lighter than that at WW?

I don't understand why you're refusing to admit when you're wrong, but it's all good.

Regarding the fight, both have ways to win, and I'm looking forward to it.

I already said, I don't have time to waste. I am maintaining Khamzat was much heavier than Burns. I saw the fight. In this particular fight, Khamzat no way only 5 lbs heavier. You did not give me any official source of fight night weight from that specific fight, which is why it is a waste of time me going round in circles with you as they are just subjective opinions. Other things don't matter as they are nothing, but speculations as on that specific night. I know exactly how much bigger Khamzat was than Burns. If you are still hell bent on proving it, post the actual fight night weights from that fight. Burns looks no bigger than 175 - 178 lbs on that specific fight night to me.

I am just respecting my time more than the zero gain from arguing with you.

 

[richardjohnson]

Burns is a former 155er whereas Chimaev almost killed himself to make 170. Chimaev is not even allowed to fight at 170 anymore because he'll destroy a PPV event and is permanently at 185 now. The size difference is much greater between Chimaev and Burns.

Here's Khamzat ordering his sauna brothers to get in between he and Costa, after challenging Costa to a fight. They even closed the gate trying to keep Costa off of Chimaev

Costa talked a big game for someone who got cold feet when they were actually scheduled to fight. 3 wins in the past 6 years btw.

 

[188912345]

I already said, I don't have time to waste. I am maintaining Khamzat was much heavier than Burns. I saw the fight. In this particular fight, Khamzat no way only 5 lbs heavier. You did not give me any official source of fight night weight from that specific fight, which is why it is a waste of time me going round in circles with you as they are just subjective opinions. Other things don't matter as they are nothing, but speculations as on that specific night. I know exactly how much bigger Khamzat was than Burns. If you are still hell bent on proving it, post the actual fight night weights from that fight. Burns looks no bigger than 175 - 178 lbs on that specific fight night to me.

I am just respecting my time more than the zero gain from arguing with you.

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Weigh-Ins & Face-Offs: Rafael Lovato Jr. vs Gilbert Burns

All sixteen athletes successfully made weight ahead of WNO: Rafael Lovato Jr vs Gilbert Burns. Here are the official weights.

www.flograppling.com

In that link, in the video at 9:30 to 9:40, we have Burns weighing in, with clothes on, at 203.2 lbs for a grappling match in April 2021, a year before he faced Khamzat.

"All sixteen athletes successfully made weight ahead of WNO: Rafael Lovato Jr vs Gilbert Burns.

Main card

Rafael Lovato Jr. – 203.2 lbs

Gilbert Burns – 203.2 lbs "

I hope that's good enough evidence and that you can fit 30 seconds into your schedule to see what Burns at 200 lbs looks like.

It's the most I can do, since you're also wasting my time by telling me I'm wrong and asking for evidence, then refusing to acknowledge said evidence.

 

[Reach Finesse]

Burns is a former 155er whereas Chimaev almost killed himself to make 170. Chimaev is not even allowed to fight at 170 anymore because he'll destroy a PPV event and is permanently at 185 now. The size difference is much greater between Chimaev and Burns.

Here's Khamzat ordering his sauna brothers to get in between he and Costa, after challenging Costa to a fight. They even closed the gate trying to keep Costa off of Chimaev

You mean the day before his fight during his weight cut.

Yeah if he got into a fight and ruined the card you guys would be saying shit too

I bet you cried to sleep after the Whitaker fight

 

[Reach Finesse]

Sorry, I am going to exit this debate. I saw the fight and saw the huge size difference between the two. I am just going to leave it at that. I don't have a source from the fight night weights.

Going back to the original point, there is no chance in hell that Khamzat is knocking out Dricus. It is just mathematical probability (being an engineer, I can calculate the probability of it).

Someone with a K-1 kickboxing record of 33-0 and 31 of them via knockouts including zero defeats especially via knockouts at middleweight. Even against Soldic, they were 1-1 knockout wise and the rubber match never happened since Dricus could no longer take the welterweight cuts. At least, that is my claim. Would be happy to be held to it. Anyone can come back and shame me into eating crows after the fight.

Sherdog engineer..lmao